Dio Brando vs Kenshiro

wow i guess you dont watch fist if you say ken tires. even in the new series he even tells the dude he is fighting that he dont get tired like the people that fight him. ken doesn’t have a normal human body, if this is ture then tell me how he walks threw a building without a scratch that falls on him. let this happen to dio. i love dio it was the cloest thing to fist when they stopped it, but ken has a god stance at the end of the series.

thanos420 wrote: wow i guess you dont watch fist if you say ken tires. even in the new series he even tells the dude he is fighting that he dont get tired like the people that fight him. ken doesn’t have a normal human body, if this is ture then tell me how he walks threw a building without a scratch that falls on him. let this happen to dio. i love dio it was the cloest thing to fist when they stopped it, but ken has a god stance at the end of the series.

Ken does tire, when he is fighting that blond haired Ganto user he is slowly losing his energy. He and the Ganto user are not fighting at 100% as they continue to wear each other down. Kenshiro is powerful indeed, but he is still a human, and he DOES tire down in intense fights. After shedding all that blood and receiving all those blows eventually if the battle waged on he would die. Dio on the other hand does not tire down, in order to kill Dio Kenshiro would have to somehow hit him with enough force to completely destroy him, like Jotaro did. I’m sure he has enough power to do so, however he would die before the opening to deliver said blow arrives.

wow all ken’s tech’s completely destroy you hence why you blow up. you talking about falco who has a tech that kills your cells in your body. funny thing is is after that fight ken was completely healed, while falco was severely injured when he fought the kid on the island. hey didn’t the hokto ryuken use demon spirits for their power. completely disappeared when ken destroyed his fist.ken and satchi was walking to the Colosseum where hyo was, hyo was already inside and ken just appeared in front of him. did you miss the new series after he got the aoyi stance. dio can’t defend any of ken’s attacks. dio has never shown strength on the level of kenshiro. when he walks threw a building i’ll say he does.

ok ken fought rei and rei used his final tech, that tech cut a boulder into bits. ken stood right in the middle of that attack and nothing happened at all. fist people blow people up without touching them. ken healed after his fight with kaio and killed 5 people without touching them, then just used a power up and made the waterfall go in the opposite direction. cmon ken punched jagi threw his fast punches with ease. kaio hyo who is faster than dio. their fist style is too much which is even why dio is around. its a copy of the fist.

thanos420 wrote: wow all ken’s tech’s completely destroy you hence why you blow up. you talking about falco who has a tech that kills your cells in your body. funny thing is is after that fight ken was completely healed, while falco was severely injured when he fought the kid on the island. hey didn’t the hokto ryuken use demon spirits for their power. completely disappeared when ken destroyed his fist.ken and satchi was walking to the Colosseum where hyo was, hyo was already inside and ken just appeared in front of him. did you miss the new series after he got the aoyi stance. dio can’t defend any of ken’s attacks. dio has never shown strength on the level of kenshiro. when he walks threw a building i’ll say he does.

Again, Kenshiro would not be able to kill Dio unless he put all of his energy into one blow. Problem is that Kenshiro would be dead before he’d even have the chance to deliver said blow. Again, you are forgetting that Dio fights as one with his stand, The World. The World can stop time and can punch faster than the speed of light with enough force to shatter a diamond. Also Dio has crazy physical strength. He lifted an entire tanker in the anime to drop on Jotaro while he stopped time(steamroller in the manga). He’d stop time and then go in to kill a motionless Kenshiro. It doesn’t matter how good a stance Kenshiro has, once time is stopped that’s it.

thanos420 wrote: wow jotaro moved in this time stop.

Yeah, Jotaro moved in Dio’s timestop. It’s not like he also has a stand that can stop time as well.....Oh wait, HE DOES.

i have the anime’s.

Your argument is now null and void.

Read the manga and try again.

thanos420 wrote: wow i guess you dont watch fist if you say ken tires. even in the new series he even tells the dude he is fighting that he dont get tired like the people that fight him. ken doesn’t have a normal human body, if this is ture then tell me how he walks threw a building without a scratch that falls on him. let this happen to dio. i love dio it was the cloest thing to fist when they stopped it, but ken has a god stance at the end of the series.

It’s very simple, if Kenshiro can get Musou Tensei up he wins, if he can’t Dio will kill him during timestop.

This match is 50-50 either way.

It’s not like Kenshiro getting Musou Tensei up is an instant win for him. He still has to land a killing blow on Dio, which wouldn’t happen unless Kenshiro put all of his energy into one blow. Dio would just stop time before Kenshiro could land any kind of fatal blow on him. The moment Dio sees Kenshiro go transparent he stops time and it’s over. It’s not a 50/50 battle. Between Dio’s nearly indestructible body and his almighty stand The World, victory is his and his alone.

GodHandTheWorld wrote: It’s not like Kenshiro getting Musou Tensei up is an instant win for him. He still has to land a killing blow on Dio, which wouldn’t happen unless Kenshiro put all of his energy into one blow. Dio would just stop time before Kenshiro could land any kind of fatal blow on him. The moment Dio sees Kenshiro go transparent he stops time and it’s over. It’s not a 50/50 battle. Between Dio’s nearly indestructible body and his almighty stand The World, victory is his and his alone.

dio would use the world the first time and hit ken. sending ken smash of a car.dio beginnings to walk away. he sense ken still alive so he walks back over to finish the job. tries to uses the world again. little did he know ken hit his points in his face. when he comes to saying the? he can’t say world? ken gets up and tell him i’ve hit your points before you uses that attack. then ken hits him with Hokuto Hyakuretsu Ken (Atatatatatatatata!) to end the fight.

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ok a tanker. ken stopped a train bigger than cities, since the train went threw cities and they were destroyed. ken stopped this with 2 fingers. then picked up the operator with 1 hand, this guy was so big when he came out of his train he fell half weigh into the ground. ken lifted a boulder with ease that 5 ppl hiis size couldn’t even hold, then it fell threw the mountain ledge. ken has strength waaay stronger than dio.


ooooh about that time stop. funny how jotaro did this before he even knew he had the time stop power. maybe you need to read the manga’s again and look at the power grids. ken was rated the 3rd most powerful manga character 4 yrs ago. dio wasnt even close. look at the power girds in the mangas and compare them to fist. every stat ken has is 96 or above on a scale to 100. dio can’t defeat him with this. ken don’t need a stand, but he has one in the end of fist called the ayoi stance. a god technique. watch how the hokuto gods spirits try to destroy kaio just for being near the aoyi statue. what part of ken uses his full skillz in every fight dont you understand. every hit ken hits you with is a full powered point strike, but he’s so strong that his slow ass weak punches send people flying away 100 ft or more. please ken has hit 30 people in a group with a tech, so fast that they didn’t even know he blew by them. dio is strong but not ken strong.

heavenly king wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote: It’s not like Kenshiro getting Musou Tensei up is an instant win for him. He still has to land a killing blow on Dio, which wouldn’t happen unless Kenshiro put all of his energy into one blow. Dio would just stop time before Kenshiro could land any kind of fatal blow on him. The moment Dio sees Kenshiro go transparent he stops time and it’s over. It’s not a 50/50 battle. Between Dio’s nearly indestructible body and his almighty stand The World, victory is his and his alone.

dio would use the world the first time and hit ken. sending ken smash of a car.dio beginnings to walk away. he sense ken still alive so he walks back over to finish the job. tries to uses the world again. little did he know ken hit his points in his face. when he comes to saying the? he can’t say world? ken gets up and tell him i’ve hit your points before you uses that attack. then ken hits him with Hokuto Hyakuretsu Ken (Atatatatatatatata!) to end the fight.

No, see when Dio stops time, he attacks to kill. Kenshiro wouldn’t even be able to get near him like that. Kenshiro is indeed very fast, but he wouldn’t be able to sneak any attack past Dio’s stand The World, it’s just that simple. And like I said, unless Kenshiro put all of his power into one blow, he couldn’t kill Dio, and like I’ve said before, he’d be long dead before any kind of opening to deliver said blow arrives.

really hahahaha funny that he did this to jotaro and played around with him numerous times before dying. yea he’d do the same to ken, yet when he does ken would kill him. you must not have read or watched fist enough to say this. ken has been put threw more punishment than any character in jojo’s. he won’t have the time to say the world cuz ken would’ve already destroyed his body. the way dio died is how ken kills almost all of his opponents. i’m sorry ken has moves that you don’t see hit you, so when your about to do something you realize you can’t. that’s the power of the hokuto shinken with the aoyi stance.

GodHandTheWorld wrote:

heavenly king wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote: It’s not like Kenshiro getting Musou Tensei up is an instant win for him. He still has to land a killing blow on Dio, which wouldn’t happen unless Kenshiro put all of his energy into one blow. Dio would just stop time before Kenshiro could land any kind of fatal blow on him. The moment Dio sees Kenshiro go transparent he stops time and it’s over. It’s not a 50/50 battle. Between Dio’s nearly indestructible body and his almighty stand The World, victory is his and his alone.

dio would use the world the first time and hit ken. sending ken smash of a car.dio beginnings to walk away. he sense ken still alive so he walks back over to finish the job. tries to uses the world again. little did he know ken hit his points in his face. when he comes to saying the? he can’t say world? ken gets up and tell him i’ve hit your points before you uses that attack. then ken hits him with Hokuto Hyakuretsu Ken (Atatatatatatatata!) to end the fight.

No, see when Dio stops time, he attacks to kill. Kenshiro wouldn’t even be able to get near him like that. Kenshiro is indeed very fast, but he wouldn’t be able to sneak any attack past Dio’s stand The World, it’s just that simple. And like I said, unless Kenshiro put all of his power into one blow, he couldn’t kill Dio, and like I’ve said before, he’d be long dead before any kind of opening to deliver said blow arrives.

Musou Tensei would end this fight in a sec

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GodHandTheWorld wrote: It’s not like Kenshiro getting Musou Tensei up is an instant win for him. He still has to land a killing blow on Dio, which wouldn’t happen unless Kenshiro put all of his energy into one blow. Dio would just stop time before Kenshiro could land any kind of fatal blow on him. The moment Dio sees Kenshiro go transparent he stops time and it’s over. It’s not a 50/50 battle. Between Dio’s nearly indestructible body and his almighty stand The World, victory is his and his alone.

Actually it would, touching someone using Musou Tensei has a tendency to make you explode.

Musou Tensei is meaningless if time stops. Ken wouldn’t be able to get anywhere near Dio. And in reality, since The World punches faster than the speed of light, Kenshiro wouldn’t even be able to see the attacks coming. The World has more power than Kenshiro, is faster than Kenshiro, and can completely ignore whatever god stance Kenshiro has with time stop. Dio wins in every way.

he is not stronger, not faster. ok when i see dio stand there and hit people without his arms moving, no time stop then you can say he is faster then kenshiro, but since ken does this on the regular( and hokto shinken can learn the skill and match the speed of any opponent) when he fights. he proved this when he matched speed with han(who’s fist have no shadow) in that fight. rao in the movie sat on his horse and hit this clown without moving his hands. rao is not even close to what ken is now after learning the aoyi stance. ken hits him before he even says the world, or did you forget in the kaio fight ken sliced him 4 times before he even knew he was hit, he swung at ken 1st, ken went threw him and cut him 4 times and then just appeared behind him, or when sanga thought he punched him threw a wall, yet ken was standing behind him.

point is is that dio would have to find his body, and the time stop don’t last long enough for him to search the nothingness to find it.

When Kenshiro fought with Kaioh for the first time and used Musou Tensei, Kaoih broke Kenshiro’s focus by warping space. Kaoih was able to punch right through Kenshiro’s nothingness. If Dio stopped time Kenshiro would no longer be focusing on Musou Tensei. In those 11 seconds of time stop Dio’s stand The World would finish Kenshiro off.

GodHandTheWorld wrote: When Kenshiro fought with Kaioh for the first time and used Musou Tensei, Kaoih broke Kenshiro’s focus by warping space. Kaoih was able to punch right through Kenshiro’s nothingness. If Dio stopped time Kenshiro would no longer be focusing on Musou Tensei. In those 11 seconds of time stop Dio’s stand The World would finish Kenshiro off.

kenshiro has had so many holes put in him dio doesn’t have enough power to end kenshrio

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Kenshiro hasn’t received blows from anyone who could punch faster than the speed of light with enough force to shatter a diamond though. So...