Dio Brando vs Kenshiro

heavenly king wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote: Kenshiro can’t survive shit if he can’t move. And once you show me where in the manga it says that Kenshiro is faster than the speed of light, THEN you can compare his speed to Dio’s stand.

i showed you me Jotaro chart saying that he moves at the speed of light. i should you han and kenshiro fighting at the speed of light. i can compare the speeds. i showed you that ken is at the speed of light. so your time stop trick the world would just be another failed way to beat kenshiro. you’re just riding on the world what’s going to happen when ken punches dio before he can say the world. i’ll tell you wat would happen he would die before saying the..

You didn’t show me anything that says “Kenshiro is faster than the speed of light”. None of those scans prove anything. And once again, Kenshiro can’t do ANYTHING once time is stopped. Nothing. Jotaro’s stand Star Platinum was faster than the speed of light as well, but the only way Jotaro was able to survive Dio’s time stop was that he had time stop himself, which Kenshiro does not have.

GodHandTheWorld wrote:

heavenly king wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote: Kenshiro can’t survive shit if he can’t move. And once you show me where in the manga it says that Kenshiro is faster than the speed of light, THEN you can compare his speed to Dio’s stand.

i showed you me Jotaro chart saying that he moves at the speed of light. i should you han and kenshiro fighting at the speed of light. i can compare the speeds. i showed you that ken is at the speed of light. so your time stop trick the world would just be another failed way to beat kenshiro. you’re just riding on the world what’s going to happen when ken punches dio before he can say the world. i’ll tell you wat would happen he would die before saying the..

You didn’t show me anything that says “Kenshiro is faster than the speed of light”. None of those scans prove anything. And once again, Kenshiro can’t do ANYTHING once time is stopped. Nothing. Jotaro’s stand Star Platinum was faster than the speed of light as well, but the only way Jotaro was able to survive Dio’s time stop was that he had time stop himself, which Kenshiro does not have.

so you think jotaro’s star platinum is faster then han’s and kenshiro’s fist. you got to be smoking you don’t see the shadows of there fist. he wouldn’t need time stop becuz he would’ve already kill dio before he can uses it

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Nope. Kenshiro wouldn’t be able to get any attack past Dio’s stand The World, which IS faster than the speed of light. And again, once time is stopped, it’s over. With Dio shouting off his battle cry, WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!

GodHandTheWorld wrote: Nope. Kenshiro wouldn’t be able to get any attack past Dio’s stand The World, which IS faster than the speed of light. And again, once time is stopped, it’s over.

dio isn’t super humanly fast with out using his stands. ken is way faster he would punch this dude in the face and the fight is over

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show the scan when he tried to uses the world and jotaro punch him in the fast and stopped him from doing it

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heavenly king wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote: Nope. Kenshiro wouldn’t be able to get any attack past Dio’s stand The World, which IS faster than the speed of light. And again, once time is stopped, it’s over.

dio isn’t super humanly fast with out using his stands. ken is way faster he would punch this dude in the face and the fight is over

Kenshiro isn’t strong without his Hokuto training. See what I did there?

GodHandTheWorld wrote:

heavenly king wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote: Nope. Kenshiro wouldn’t be able to get any attack past Dio’s stand The World, which IS faster than the speed of light. And again, once time is stopped, it’s over.

dio isn’t super humanly fast with out using his stands. ken is way faster he would punch this dude in the face and the fight is over

Kenshiro isn’t strong without his Hokuto training. See what I did there?

you doing that just makes you look foolish. what makes dio so powerful is his stand right. with out that he can’t stop time at all right

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I’m only copying what you said about how Dio is powerless without his stand. That’s the same as saying that Kenshiro is powerless without his training in Hokuto. As much as Kenshiro’s training is apart of him, Dio’s stand is apart of his power. They are inseparable.

you keep saying this like jotaro knew he could stop time. 1 he didn’t know till the end of the fight, and 2 he said let me try to see if i could move not knowing he could stop time. if he knew this like you say then that fight would’ve been over in the beginning. when you show me dio having a building drop on his head and walk threw it, i might say dio is close to ken in power, but since he can’t. fist never listed people being faster than light, they just let the fact that ken doesn’t move and kills people do the talking. rao on his horse fists didn’t move, yet he hit a giant 3 times in the face, leaving dents in his steel body. not even trying and rao can do this, ken is way faster and stronger then rao now, in fact he uses rao’s fist on kaioh, showing he can learn anything and copy it exactly. souther fight, his 1st hit on souther was shue’s kick and he told souther that was for shue. in the end he used every hoktuo gento stance from their most powerful fighters. dio can’t defend what he can’t see, by the time he says the world ken would be at his face frozen, but little did he know is that ken hit his points already, so dio continues his rant and setting up the knives for when the 11 seconds is over. then times up, the knives fall to the floor, dio confused asks “what the fuck is happening”, ken says i already touched your points before you did this. your already dead and ken walks away with dio exploding behind him.

GodHandTheWorld wrote: I’m only copying what you said about how Dio is powerless without his stand. That’s the same as saying that Kenshiro is powerless without his training in Hokuto. As much as Kenshiro’s training is apart of him, Dio’s stand is apart of his power. They are inseparable.

so if kenshiro hit his points in his face he can’t uses his time stop powers.
show me dio’s scan about his powers.

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heavenly king wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote: I’m only copying what you said about how Dio is powerless without his stand. That’s the same as saying that Kenshiro is powerless without his training in Hokuto. As much as Kenshiro’s training is apart of him, Dio’s stand is apart of his power. They are inseparable.

so if kenshiro hit his points in his face he can’t uses his time stop powers.
show me dio’s scan about his powers.

Just take a look at his respect thread.

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heavenly king wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote: I’m only copying what you said about how Dio is powerless without his stand. That’s the same as saying that Kenshiro is powerless without his training in Hokuto. As much as Kenshiro’s training is apart of him, Dio’s stand is apart of his power. They are inseparable.

so if kenshiro hit his points in his face he can’t uses his time stop powers.
show me dio’s scan about his powers.

Just take a look at his respect thread.

oh yea there is one for him will do

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i am looking for dio’s power grind like this one http://www.onemanga.com/JoJos_Bizarre_Adventure_-_Stone_Ocean/19/00/

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heavenly king wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote: I’m only copying what you said about how Dio is powerless without his stand. That’s the same as saying that Kenshiro is powerless without his training in Hokuto. As much as Kenshiro’s training is apart of him, Dio’s stand is apart of his power. They are inseparable.

so if kenshiro hit his points in his face he can’t uses his time stop powers.
show me dio’s scan about his powers.

Muda da. First of all Kenshiro wouldn’t be able to get anywhere near Dio with The World fighting along side him. Second the ONLY way to get rid of a stand users stand is to kill the user. Kenshiro can’t press any kind of pressure point to seal away Dio’s stand.

EDIT: There is only ONE person that can take away a stand users stand. That person is Enrico Pucci, with his stand White Snake.

GodHandTheWorld wrote:

heavenly king wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote: I’m only copying what you said about how Dio is powerless without his stand. That’s the same as saying that Kenshiro is powerless without his training in Hokuto. As much as Kenshiro’s training is apart of him, Dio’s stand is apart of his power. They are inseparable.

so if kenshiro hit his points in his face he can’t uses his time stop powers.
show me dio’s scan about his powers.

Muda da. First of all Kenshiro wouldn’t be able to get anywhere near Dio with The World fighting along side him. Second the ONLY way to get rid of a stand users stand is to kill the user. Kenshiro can’t press any kind of pressure point to seal away Dio’s stand.

EDIT: There is only ONE person that can take away a stand users stand. That person is Enrico Pucci, with his stand White Snake.

kenshiro couldn’t hit souther with any other attack until he uses Tenha Kassatsu and it end the fight. he would do the same thing to dio with his stand out

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GodHandTheWorld wrote: Musou Tensei is meaningless if time stops. Ken wouldn’t be able to get anywhere near Dio. And in reality, since The World punches faster than the speed of light, Kenshiro wouldn’t even be able to see the attacks coming. The World has more power than Kenshiro, is faster than Kenshiro, and can completely ignore whatever god stance Kenshiro has with time stop. Dio wins in every way.

Actually it is not.

As you said Dio has no Knowledge of Musou Tensei, therefore would meele against him and explode the second he touches him.

Time stop doesn’t negate Musou Tensei.

heavenly king wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote: Dude, what you need to understand that Dio’s stand CAN kill Kenshiro. Nothing I’ve seen from FOTNS1 or 2 has shown to me that Kenshiro is impervious to damage from more powerful opponents. Tell me, how would Kenshiro deal with a foe that can stop time and cancel out WHATEVER stance that he is using? 11 seconds of time stop, that is what Dio has. Enough strength to lift a steamroller, enough punching power to shatter a diamond. Knives, don’t forget about the knives. Tell me how Kenshiro would survive a fury of knives being thrown at him in time stop, followed by Dio dropping some kind of large building, machine, or boulder on him IN TIME STOP! Nothing I’ve seen from Kenshiro convinces me that he can do anything against Dio once time is stopped. Victory is in the bag for Dio, in a bloody end for Kenshiro.

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so you think having a large steam roller drop on kenshiro is going to do something. oh and let me no forget the knifes. ken had a skyscraper drop on his head and it did nothing to him. if jortaro can uses his stand to move in TIME STOP. kenshiro shouldn’t have no trouble at all using his his fist to smash dio to death.

ken’s speed is for greater then dio’s

Blood freeze, blood drain, space ripper stingy eyes. I could go on.

but he thinks so

Keep in mind this fight could go absolutely either way.

So I’m going to say draw.

Ranmyaku Arashi wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote: Musou Tensei is meaningless if time stops. Ken wouldn’t be able to get anywhere near Dio. And in reality, since The World punches faster than the speed of light, Kenshiro wouldn’t even be able to see the attacks coming. The World has more power than Kenshiro, is faster than Kenshiro, and can completely ignore whatever god stance Kenshiro has with time stop. Dio wins in every way.

Actually it is not.

As you said Dio has no Knowledge of Musou Tensei, therefore would meele against him and explode the second he touches him.

Time stop doesn’t negate Musou Tensei.

I can use that same argument against Kenshiro. Kenshiro RARELY uses Musou Tensei on his opponents. He’s only used it on Raoh and Kaioh based on what I remember. Since Kenshiro would have no knowledge of Dio and his ability to stop time he wouldn’t feel that threatened. Dio on the other hand ALWAYS uses time stop. He’d use it before Kenshiro even got a chance to attack him.

I don’t think it would be a draw at all. Dio crushes Kenshiro.

EDIT: And time stop would indeed negate Musou Tensei. How can Kenshiro continue to concentrate on using the technique if he can’t even move? Dio punches through the nothingness in time stop.