Hiruma Yoichi wrote:
I’m going with kenichi. There way powerful i think they can take these guys.
I dunno, Speck almost destroyed the Statue of Liberty. He and Hanayama were tearing each other to pieces in their fight.
Doyle also has a reusable bomb in his chest.
Dorian has a wire that cuts people.
Yanagi also has the Poison Hand Technique.
Well i don’t know about the bombs or anything but they have fought armies barehanded (Excluding the sword user) and don’t even stop to catch their breath. Kenichi even passed out in the middle of his fight but was so well trained by then his body got up on it’s own and beat the crap out of his opponent.
And i don’t think anyone could even compare to the old man. He so freaking fast that when he kept tripping a guy up they had to play it back in the camera’s slowest motion just to see the the blur where his foot was. They even run on water on a regular.
but they have fought armies barehanded (Excluding the sword user) and don’t even stop to catch their breath. Kenichi even passed out in the middle of his fight but was so well trained by then his body got up on it’s own and beat the crap out of his opponent.
Kenichi’s not getting past Speck though...
Speck stomped Baki, and Baki’s stronger than Kenichi is.
And i don’t think anyone could even compare to the old man. He so freaking fast that when he kept tripping a guy up they had to play it back in the camera’s slowest motion just to see the the blur where his foot was. They even run on water on a regular.
The old man’s pretty beastly though. IIRC, he lifts a tank.
but they have fought armies barehanded (Excluding the sword user) and don’t even stop to catch their breath. Kenichi even passed out in the middle of his fight but was so well trained by then his body got up on it’s own and beat the crap out of his opponent.
Kenichi’s not getting past Speck though...
Speck stomped Baki, and Baki’s stronger than Kenichi is.
And i don’t think anyone could even compare to the old man. He so freaking fast that when he kept tripping a guy up they had to play it back in the camera’s slowest motion just to see the the blur where his foot was. They even run on water on a regular.
The old man’s pretty beastly though. IIRC, he lifts a tank.
Well the bomb thing ain’t that good to be honest. he had a suit on and lit the whole place up so thats not really fighting skill.(Thats is a cheap ass move.)
as impressive as that was the elder hasn’t even had to go near full power yet. He tripped this guy up like 20 times and they still barely caught it on camera. No one could even tell what happened accept Miastro(the guy who explains.)
and may not be as impressive but he throws this huge bomb away from there area. considering it was big enough to blow up a large boat he must have thrown it a long distance to avoid the explosion.
Protagonist301 wrote:
This is how I would match it up.
Speck vs Appachai winner Speck. For his high tolerance for pain and powerful blows.
Appachai dies badly. I doubt Appachai gonna tank the Apnea Rush or get his mouth exploded with bullets. :/
Dorian vs Kensei winner Dorian for his powerful blows, hypnosis technique and his titanium wire.
Yep.
Sikorsky vs Akisame winner Sikorsky only because he has insane grip power and cutting technique with his knuckles.
Yep.
Doyle vs Shigure winner Shigure because Doyle sucks and Shigure has better skills.
As much as I love Shigure, she’ll lose. Doyle stomped Shinogi, who could tear out people’s nerves with his reusable bomb. Shigure’s not surviving that.
Yanagi vs Shio winner is Yanagi since Yanagi beat Gouki who beat Doppo who is 100x better karatka than Shio.
Pretty much.
Kenichi and Miu gets raped.
They die.
Elder rapes all the convicts.
He’s the only threat.
The only reason why Speck stomped Baki because Baki was being a dumb ass.
Baki still got stomped. I’m surprised Baki lived.
Hiruma Yoichi wrote:
Well the bomb thing ain’t that good to be honest. he had a suit on and lit the whole place up so thats not really fighting skill.(Thats is a cheap ass move.)
as impressive as that was the elder hasn’t even had to go near full power yet. He tripped this guy up like 20 times and they still barely caught it on camera. No one could even tell what happened accept Miastro(the guy who explains.)
I’ll give him the speed feat. He’s faster, but the convicts have better durability than the masters.
and may not be as impressive but he throws this huge bomb away from there area. considering it was big enough to blow up a large boat he must have thrown it a long distance to avoid the explosion.
That’s pretty impressive. That’s more than what Speck did when he flipped the car even though it was in drive. The convicts have their hands full on this. Still, Elder has to KO all the convicts quickly. If he doesn’t, they’ll win.
Since this is with bloodlust, Elder would win. He’s at least Kaku Kaoh or Pickle in Baki, maybe even Yujiro Hamna.
Although i don’t think the others would lose so easily ether.
Depends. The convicts are cheap. Speck used bullets to blow off Hanayama’s face off, Doyle’s Baki’s Deidara, Yanagi has the poison hand, Dorian has hypnosis and the wire, and Sikorsky cheap too.
Since this is with bloodlust, Elder would win. He’s at least Kaku Kaoh or Pickle in Baki, maybe even Yujiro Hamna.
Although i don’t think the others would lose so easily ether.
Depends. The convicts are cheap. Speck used bullets to blow off Hanayama’s face off, Doyle’s Baki’s Deidara, Yanagi has the poison hand, Dorian has hypnosis and the wire, and Sikorsky cheap too.
Well i’ve never seen them deal with poison but two of them are doctors as well so i’m sure they could. Wire’s was outdone by one of the weaker fighters in kenichi so i know they could handle it. they easily dodge bullets on a regular basis and as for that onslaught move. The way he was hitting that guy was about normal Kenichi fighting speed. And the way he was boasting i’m guessing it was one of his stronger moves. When i kept reading i saw the guy manage to punch him in the face. If he managed to do that then there no way that would work on any of the Kenichi fighters.
Hiruma Yoichi wrote:
Well i’ve never seen them deal with poison but two of them are doctors as well so i’m sure they could.
Yanagi’s poison hand almost killed Baki. They need as much durability as Baki to win.
Wire’s was outdone by one of the weaker fighters in kenichi so i know they could handle it.
How strong was that wire? Dorian’s wire cut off Doppo’s hand off. Doppo won the first 2 fights with Dorian, but Dorian won their 3rd fight via a grenade to the face. Doppo lived by the way. :P
they easily dodge bullets on a regular basis
Can they tank bullets and bombs though?
That’s how Doyle also beat Shinogi, even though Shinogi was pwning him for most of the fight.
and as for that onslaught move. The way he was hitting that guy was about normal Kenichi fighting speed.
Yet Kenichi has yet to destroy something like the Statue of Liberty. :/
And the way he was boasting i’m guessing it was one of his stronger moves. When i kept reading i saw the guy manage to punch him in the face.
Speck tanked a punch of Hanayama’s punches head on to the face w/o dying. He still managed to counterattack by exploding Hanayama’s face off with bullets. Hanayama then punched Speck so hard that Speck flew toward a lightning post and then got electricuted. Speck still lived btw and was ready for round 2.
If he managed to do that then there no way that would work on any of the Kenichi fighters.
If we go by Speck’s strongest moves, they would be:
Exploding faces with bullets
Guns
Takemi Wash (curbstomping)
Apnea Rush (the onslaught move)
Blunt Weapons
Punches and Kicks
And that’s just Speck. You still have Yanagi, Dorian, Doyle and Sikorsky.
Nope Kenichi. The wire they dealt with was strong enough to cut through fleash and bones.
I don’t see how tanking bullets proves anything if they can dodge it. They obviously have speed on their side here.
Kenichi may not have done anything like that to the statue of liberty but He’s weak compared to the others. And kisame Has lifted large statues with he himself makes. no small feat. Strength really ain’t a problem ether.
As for durability Kenichi’s had durability feats far beyond these guys and He’s not even a master. As for blunt weapons they’ll also probably fail since they’ve dealt with all types of weapons before.
Hiruma Yoichi wrote:
Nope Kenichi. The wire they dealt with was strong enough to cut through fleash and bones.
I see.
I don’t see how tanking bullets proves anything if they can dodge it.
Dodging/Blocking =/= Tanking
They obviously have speed on their side here.
It may not be enough though.
Kenichi may not have done anything like that to the statue of liberty but He’s weak compared to the others. And kisame Has lifted large statues with he himself makes. no small feat. Strength really ain’t a problem ether.
Speck flipped over the car, even though it was in drive. All of this was after round 1, where Speck was punched repeatedly full on in the face and then getting electrocuted by a lightpost.
As for durability Kenichi’s had durability feats far beyond these guys and He’s not even a master. As for blunt weapons they’ll also probably fail since they’ve dealt with all types of weapons before.
Hiruma Yoichi wrote:
Nope Kenichi. The wire they dealt with was strong enough to cut through fleash and bones.
I see.
I don’t see how tanking bullets proves anything if they can dodge it.
Dodging/Blocking =/= Tanking
They obviously have speed on their side here.
It may not be enough though.
Kenichi may not have done anything like that to the statue of liberty but He’s weak compared to the others. And kisame Has lifted large statues with he himself makes. no small feat. Strength really ain’t a problem ether.
Speck flipped over the car, even though it was in drive. All of this was after round 1, where Speck was punched repeatedly full on in the face and then getting electrocuted by a lightpost.
As for durability Kenichi’s had durability feats far beyond these guys and He’s not even a master. As for blunt weapons they’ll also probably fail since they’ve dealt with all types of weapons before.
How Speck didn’t die right then and there shows how much of a monster he was. Hanayama was actually knocked out after round 1.
lifting a car wasn’t that much of a strength feat. I showed an earlier link of him throwing a bomb witch(I think it was you) you said it was a more impressive feat. The only reason why The other master couldn’t do it was that he was in a fight.
As for rapid punches in the face. It happens almost every fight in Kenichi. Well it did but his senses go so sharp he’s learned to counter easily.
Your Durability link’s were most impressive. Props. But i can’t see him being able to hit any of them with bullets.(way to slow.)
I if beating themm didn’t work i’m banking they would just try breaking there arms. They also have tons of moves used to shut down the body.
Kaoru Hanayama wrote:
I’m leaning toward Speck, Dorian, Doyle, and Yanagi winning. Sikorsky would get stomped though.
the convicts got this one
Well, Elder is still stronger than the convicts. He’s probably somewhere between Pickle and Kaku, maybe Yujiro.
Hiruma Yoichi wrote:
lifting a car wasn’t that much of a strength feat. I showed an earlier link of him throwing a bomb witch(I think it was you) you said it was a more impressive feat. The only reason why The other master couldn’t do it was that he was in a fight.
Well, the elder is above pretty much everyone else though. He did kick that tank.
As for rapid punches in the face. It happens almost every fight in Kenichi. Well it did but his senses go so sharp he’s learned to counter easily.
True, but Kenichi and Mui are outclassed in this fight. This is mostly between the masters vs the convicts, with the grandmaster above everyone pretty much.
Your Durability link’s were most impressive. Props. But i can’t see him being able to hit any of them with bullets.(way to slow.)
Catch them off guard. That’s how Speck and the convicts fight people that are faster than themselves. Speck put the bullets in Hanayama’s mouth and slammed his mouth shut.
As for speed, Speck isn’t that slow. He takes out police officers with ease:
Overall, the convicts have a lot of damage soak, even fatal ones. They may be slower, but they make up for it with insane durability. That, and they have flashbangs too.
Kaoru Hanayama wrote:
I’m leaning toward Speck, Dorian, Doyle, and Yanagi winning. Sikorsky would get stomped though.
the convicts got this one
Well, Elder is still stronger than the convicts. He’s probably somewhere between Pickle and Kaku, maybe Yujiro.
Hiruma Yoichi wrote:
lifting a car wasn’t that much of a strength feat. I showed an earlier link of him throwing a bomb witch(I think it was you) you said it was a more impressive feat. The only reason why The other master couldn’t do it was that he was in a fight.
Well, the elder is above pretty much everyone else though. He did kick that tank.
As for rapid punches in the face. It happens almost every fight in Kenichi. Well it did but his senses go so sharp he’s learned to counter easily.
True, but Kenichi and Mui are outclassed in this fight. This is mostly between the masters vs the convicts, with the grandmaster above everyone pretty much.
Your Durability link’s were most impressive. Props. But i can’t see him being able to hit any of them with bullets.(way to slow.)
Catch them off guard. That’s how Speck and the convicts fight people that are faster than themselves. Speck put the bullets in Hanayama’s mouth and slammed his mouth shut.
As for speed, Speck isn’t that slow. He takes out police officers with ease:
Overall, the convicts have a lot of damage soak, even fatal ones. They may be slower, but they make up for it with insane durability. That, and they have flashbangs too.
Well when i was saying happened all in Kenichi’s fight. i was refering to the manga itself. not just Kenichi and miu. Anyhow, i just can’t see weapons getting them. They deal with them so much every time you see someone pull it out against them you just go like 'oh boy, what next' Granted i think Kenichi and miu are outclassed it a fight between masters.
While they do have durability feats on their side We have the remember the masters are o slouches. Though the convicts aren’t going down easy i admit. Kisame even once fought with a master the battle was so intense it brought down the whole building and they were still fighting.
I think the Kenichi fighter would win this but not without injury. These guys seem intensely durable witch would make it a tough fight even for them.
