Giorno Giovana VS Dio Brando

Just wondering who would win. Your opinions?

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Is GER allowed in this fight?

Kaoru Hanayama wrote: Is GER allowed in this fight?

Each character’s respective stands are allowed.

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Marly wrote:

Kaoru Hanayama wrote: Is GER allowed in this fight?

Each character’s respective stands are allowed.

Then Giorno Giovana wins. GER ie Gold Experience Requiem is just so broken. XD

GER resets all damage to zero and puts whoever it’s used against in an infinite death loop. Dio’s not beating his son at all. GG Dio. o_O

Dio will never beat his son, ever. This might as well be a rape topic.

GodHandTheWorld wrote: Dio will never beat his son, ever. This might as well be a rape topic.

^This

GER >>>>>> Za Warudo

Really? There must be some limits to what GER can do. I guess it will remain ambiguous until the author specifies it.

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Marly wrote: Really? There must be some limits to what GER can do. I guess it will remain ambiguous until the author specifies it.

“No matter what their ability, no opponent will be able to take action against me." - G.E.R

Unless you are an omnipotent and can write your own rules, you pretty much have to abide by GER rules. Not even Gogeta/Vegeto, Pre-Crisis Superman, or Galactus will be able to attack GER. You can’t take action against GER, that’s how it’s written.

Marly wrote: Really? There must be some limits to what GER can do. I guess it will remain ambiguous until the author specifies it.

There are very few limits. GER is that broken.

GodHandTheWorld wrote:

Marly wrote: Really? There must be some limits to what GER can do. I guess it will remain ambiguous until the author specifies it.

“No matter what their ability, no opponent will be able to take action against me." - G.E.R

Unless you are an omnipotent and can write your own rules, you pretty much have to abide by GER rules. Not even Gogeta/Vegeto, Pre-Crisis Superman, or Galactus will be able to attack GER. You can’t take action against GER, that’s how it’s written.

I think No Limits Fallacy/Hyperbole would apply there. You can’t really compare GER to a guy who eats planets for breakfast. I’m not a fan of these 'ambiguous power' characters, because they can be interpreted in a way that they sound completely broken and can be defeated by only omnipotents.

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For a stand that can move outside of time and reset your actions to zero, not to mention put you in a continuous death loop if killed, Dio is screwed.

Broken stand is broken. Unless you’re a high reality warper, or are resistant to attacks of the like, then you’re not doing shit here.

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Marly wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote:

Marly wrote: Really? There must be some limits to what GER can do. I guess it will remain ambiguous until the author specifies it.

“No matter what their ability, no opponent will be able to take action against me." - G.E.R

Unless you are an omnipotent and can write your own rules, you pretty much have to abide by GER rules. Not even Gogeta/Vegeto, Pre-Crisis Superman, or Galactus will be able to attack GER. You can’t take action against GER, that’s how it’s written.

I think No Limits Fallacy/Hyperbole would apply there. You can’t really compare GER to a guy who eats planets for breakfast. I’m not a fan of these 'ambiguous power' characters, because they can be interpreted in a way that they sound completely broken and can be defeated by only omnipotents.

Galactus has alot of destructive power, but to what avail? GER pretty much writes it’s own law that is universal. That law is “No one can take action against me." It would only be a no limits fallacy if it included omnipotent beings, imo. Other than that it’s fair game. Galactus isn’t even close to being omnipotent tbqh.

It’s the same concept with Saint of Killers bullets. SOK would be able to kill Gogeta/Vegeto, PC Superman, and even Galactus if his bullets connected(which they will 100% of the time since they never miss apparently). Ofc SOK is less broken than GER because well....it can’t kill something that is already dead. SO...Alucard from Hellsing would probably just absorb him or something. One could argue that a dead Goku could take out SOK. But I digress, GER is very much broken.

Darth Bane wrote: For a stand that can move outside of time and reset your actions to zero, not to mention put you in a continuous death loop if killed, Dio is screwed.

Broken stand is broken. Unless you’re a high reality warper, or are resistant to attacks of the like, then you’re not doing shit here.

^This

GodHandTheWorld wrote:

Marly wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote:

Marly wrote: Really? There must be some limits to what GER can do. I guess it will remain ambiguous until the author specifies it.

“No matter what their ability, no opponent will be able to take action against me." - G.E.R

Unless you are an omnipotent and can write your own rules, you pretty much have to abide by GER rules. Not even Gogeta/Vegeto, Pre-Crisis Superman, or Galactus will be able to attack GER. You can’t take action against GER, that’s how it’s written.

I think No Limits Fallacy/Hyperbole would apply there. You can’t really compare GER to a guy who eats planets for breakfast. I’m not a fan of these 'ambiguous power' characters, because they can be interpreted in a way that they sound completely broken and can be defeated by only omnipotents.

Galactus has alot of destructive power, but to what avail? GER pretty much writes it’s own law that is universal. That law is “No one can take action against me." It would only be a no limits fallacy if it included omnipotent beings, imo. Other than that it’s fair game. Galactus isn’t even close to being omnipotent tbqh.

I can see GER working against Galactus, if he’s hungry. Galactus is always hungry. XD

GodHandTheWorld wrote: It’s the same concept with Saint of Killers bullets. SOK would be able to kill Gogeta/Vegeto, PC Superman, and even Galactus if his bullets connected(which they will 100% of the time since they never miss apparently). Ofc SOK is less broken than GER because well....it can’t kill something that is already dead. SO...Alucard from Hellsing would probably just absorb him or something. One could argue that a dead Goku could take out SOK. But I digress, GER is very much broken.

GER’s more broken than Musou Tensei and Za Warudo combined. o_O

Gold Experience Requiem is a new Stand that is created by piercing Gold Experience’s body with the Stand Arrow. Gold Experience Requiem’s ability is to turn anything, including his opponent’s attack and willpower, back to the state of “zero”. Hence, it is near invincible, as all “supposed” actions created by an opponent would have been reset (back to point zero). If the opponent is killed by the Stand’s attack, then they will also continuously experience death, as they will die but repeatedly return to point “zero”. It is mentioned by Giorno himself that he is unsure of the exact workings and limits of Requiem’s powers. Requiem also appears to have a consciousness of its own that is unknown to Giorno.

In other words, Gold Experience Requiem has the opposite effect of King Crimson; while King Crimson erases the “cause” while keeping the “effect” (i.e time where a bullet would hit him is erased, causing the bullet to warp past him), Gold experience Requiem keeps the “cause” but erases the “effect”, thus causing endless scenarios where the opponent would normally die, but is then placed in the next scenario before he/she does (i.e Diavolo"s “deaths” via GER’s Blazing Fists, the knife of a heroin addict, an autopsy, being hit by a car, and so on for eternity.)

Copypasta-d from Wiki. I want to see some scans that show that GER can turn someone’s willpower to 'zero.' Because I am not sure how that works.

GER only used this ability once or twice in the entire series, apparently. And the bolded part makes me think about whether he’s really broken as you guys say he is. And do Stands come back to life when they get killed before they get the chance to use their ability?

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Even if it’s a well fed Galactus, he’d still fall prey to GER’s ability. Unless Galactus is omnipotent, or EXTREMELY high level reality warper as DB mentioned, he’s pretty much fucked.

Marly wrote: Gold Experience Requiem is a new Stand that is created by piercing Gold Experience’s body with the Stand Arrow. Gold Experience Requiem’s ability is to turn anything, including his opponent’s attack and willpower, back to the state of “zero”. Hence, it is near invincible, as all “supposed” actions created by an opponent would have been reset (back to point zero). If the opponent is killed by the Stand’s attack, then they will also continuously experience death, as they will die but repeatedly return to point “zero”. It is mentioned by Giorno himself that he is unsure of the exact workings and limits of Requiem’s powers. Requiem also appears to have a consciousness of its own that is unknown to Giorno.

In other words, Gold Experience Requiem has the opposite effect of King Crimson; while King Crimson erases the “cause” while keeping the “effect” (i.e time where a bullet would hit him is erased, causing the bullet to warp past him), Gold experience Requiem keeps the “cause” but erases the “effect”, thus causing endless scenarios where the opponent would normally die, but is then placed in the next scenario before he/she does (i.e Diavolo"s “deaths” via GER’s Blazing Fists, the knife of a heroin addict, an autopsy, being hit by a car, and so on for eternity.)

Copypasta-d from Wiki. I want to see some scans that show that GER can turn someone’s willpower to 'zero.' Because I am not sure how that works.

GER only used this ability once or twice in the entire series, apparently. And the bolded part makes me think about whether he’s really broken as you guys say he is. And do Stands come back to life when they get killed before they get the chance to use their ability?

Here you go.

Darth Bane wrote: For a stand that can move outside of time and reset your actions to zero, not to mention put you in a continuous death loop if killed, Dio is screwed.

Broken stand is broken. Unless you’re a high reality warper, or are resistant to attacks of the like, then you’re not doing shit here.

Strange then that Pre-Crisis Superman, with certain feats of his, could not solo this.

I have in mind a few reality warpers that culd easily skirt around this or are close enough to nigh omnipotence that they could do something else , but a guy with powers like that, you’d think he’d be more famous.

GodHandTheWorld wrote: Even if it’s a well fed Galactus, he’d still fall prey to GER’s ability. Unless Galactus is omnipotent, or EXTREMELY high level reality warper as DB mentioned, he’s pretty much fucked.

Galactus is fucked since he’s not an omni. He’s around High Skyfather/Low Celestial.

Referencing to Wikipedia. That’s so unlike you.

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