God kratos Vs Dark Samus

scenario wrote: Except that phazon affected the ascended Chozo, who were no longer mortal. It reached through space and time, and dragged them back to the material world as ethereal spirits, where it then proceeded to corrupted their immortal forms to insanity.

Nothing escapes phazon.

In the Metroid universe, yes, but note that (again) we’re mixing universes here. No science shit applies to good ol' Greek Mythology. Phazon has to be enchanted with Greek God power first before it can affect a Greek God. This is the reason why I said Kratos would make Phazon a threat to himself he tries to use it himself as a Greek God 'cause everything a Greek God touches and uses becomes a Greek-godly tool or weapon.

Also I used the words “god” and “non-god” instead of “mortal” or “immortal”. Being an immortal in Greek Myth (and in the game in this case) doesn’t immediately make you a god. Gods are indeed immortal to non-gods, but they are mortals to themselves, thus the explanation above.

So you’re saying that nothing, not even a god of another pantheon, can affect a Greek god because they are not a Greek god?

Sounds a bit unfair.

But then, this isn’t usually my style of debating. I use displayed abilities, not labels. Say for instance, someone can destroy a mountain. Labeling that person a god does not make the attack stronger; it still only destroys a mountain.

Dark Samus has displayed immunity to non-phazon attacks, up to and including the collapse of a dimension. Anything stronger than that has the possibility of harming her. Kratos, however, has not shown immunity to non-god attacks. Labeling him a god does not grant him an immunity he is not shown to posses in my book. Until a normal weapon passes through his body, I will retain doubts as to his status of untouchable.

And you have to remember, God of War is a game. The creators have taken artistic liberties; changed the myths. Just because something is in Greek myth, does not mean it automatically applies to the God of War universe. You may consider it a game mechanic, but I think minotaurs and harpies being considered a threat to the mighty God of War fairly damning, to say the least.

I’m (STILL) talking about Greek Mythology of the game, not our own Greek Myth because I already know the GoW Team fucked the original ideas of Greek Myth and changed them. Rhea is now a mortal (I think). Gods, that means Olympians and Titans, can kill themselves, when they couldn’t. And Pandora’s Box can give a person the ability to kill a god when it should be a box full of evil shit not god power.

lol if you read my previous posts, which I think you didn’t, you’ll notice that I’ve been repeating myself over the same thing over and over again.

Like I and edgar said, it’s STILL a draw. How can you say making it a draw is unfair? It’s not like we’ve never experienced a draw in a VS thread before, have we? God Kratos can’t use Phazon without killing himself with it. And Dark Samus can’t do anything against him without becoming a Greek God herself/itself because of how Greek Gods. By how I say this, I’m not labeling a Greek God (of the game) more powerful than Dark Samus, or vice versa.

scenario wrote: Kratos, however, has not shown immunity to non-god attacks.

We’re talking about GOD Kratos, not the mortal Kratos. Also note that God Kratos was only shown in a brief moment. Soon in the game, he was stripped off of his immortality by Zeus in a form of a huge bird, which is transferred to a god-sized statue of Helios to bring it to life and have this grudge over Kratos that it wants to kill him. I’m basing the whole immune to non-god attacks thing from the other Greek Gods in the game.

I see. However, my main problem is that you are denying the Chozo the right to godhood, despite the fact that they ascended to higher plane of existence, apparently just because they were not Greek. Phazon has displayed the ability to reach past the material world and affect the closest thing to god possible in Metroid. I do not see how it fails to affect a god, as it has done so in the past. Just like the Chozo before him, Kratos should find himself stripped of his immortality.

In addition, I find the notion that non-Greek gods being unable to affect Kratos incredibly stupid. Dark Samus was unaffected by a dimensional collapse, but anything stronger than that could conceivably hurt her. That Kratos could be unfazed by universe imploding, simply because it isn’t covered in Greek Myth, however, is laughable. I’m aware that you didn’t say this; I’m simply making use of hyperbole.

But riddle me this: Could a Norse god affect a Greek one? You seem to be implying that nothing non-Greek, divine or not, can even affect a Greek god. You keep saying that Dark Samus needs Greek power specifically, when any god power should work.

And the fact remains that the Chozo achieved omniscience and omnipresence(omnipotence is unconfirmed), something that most Greek gods were not shown to posses. Despite that, phazon affected them, and dragged them back to the material word piece by agonizing piece. It screwed the prophecies, killed the dead, and generally messed everything up.

The entire debate hinges on this alone. I hate debating with gods.

...Wow...So what I’m understanding hear, is that the Chozo gods were “stripped” of there emortality by phazon itself....


Going by this why cant This happen to a greek god?...
It would be bias to say they cant.

Dark samus must have the advantage.... thus when Kratos is mortal ..again...dark samus kills Kratos completly...

D-S FTW

Well

should this get locked yet?

D-S Obviously wins...

If Phazon Beats God kratos... then Samus in hyper mode beats him... and makes him mortal again

How would Kratos win?

I doubt any of his attacks will even harm her.

Beliefs do not fade away.
- Gray Voice

Serris0809 wrote: How would Kratos win?

I doubt any of his attacks will even harm her.

Its also bean said that phazon stole the emortalty of the Chozo Gods... so why not Kratos
and then he becomes mortal again... she kills him....

Kratos is gay, so he loses.

Dream of the Endless wrote: Kratos is gay, so he loses.

that is not the only reson he loses

okay no i think that kratos will beat the shit out of samus because samus is really gud but tho kratos dies he’ll come back to life and kick her ass no matter how many times he dies he will kick samuses ass samus is awsome but kratos is better

queef*

powster wrote: okay no i think that kratos will beat the shit out of samus because samus is really gud but tho kratos dies he’ll come back to life and kick her ass no matter how many times he dies he will kick samuses ass samus is awsome but kratos is better

This is not Samus vs Kratos. This is Dark Samus vs. Kratos. Dark Samus has a resurrection ability superior to that of Kratos. It/she can come back from particles. You need to atomize her to do damage.

If Kratos comes back, Dark Samus will send him back to the underworld corrupted by phazon. Great job, Dark Samus just took over hell.