| 02 Jul 2009 02:07 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17  Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 2,226 ONLINE | Xx edgarxX wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
Ik.. so simple “cuting” a arm off of dark samus she will re-grow it....with her metroid side.
I still think Dark samus can take over Kratos..
He’ll just reduce her to nothing using the blade of Olympus, which was powerful enough to defeat the titans. Which Zeus used to incinerate the entire Spartan army with one swing. Dark Samus loses to the god Kratos.
 | | | | 02 Jul 2009 02:09 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 15  Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,437 OFFLINE | Kratos will not die....
Dark samus will be hurt
so will Kratos..
but simply in the end Dark samus will get pissed and unleash the Phazon seeds and Game and match...
I See Kratos currupted by phazon.. | | | 02 Jul 2009 02:11 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 15Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,437 OFFLINE | GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Xx edgarxX wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
Ik.. so simple “cuting” a arm off of dark samus she will re-grow it....with her metroid side.
I still think Dark samus can take over Kratos..
He’ll just reduce her to nothing using the blade of Olympus, which was powerful enough to defeat the titans. Which Zeus used to incinerate the entire Spartan army with one swing. Dark Samus loses to the god Kratos.
Dark samus comes back from ashes... Little blue ones.. lol.. | | | 02 Jul 2009 02:11 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 2,226 ONLINE | Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
| | | 02 Jul 2009 02:13 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 15Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,437 OFFLINE | GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
She would alter dementions and come back...
like she did in Prime 2
Shes fond of space.. very fond. | | | 02 Jul 2009 02:14 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 2,226 ONLINE | Xx edgarxX wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Xx edgarxX wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
Ik.. so simple “cuting” a arm off of dark samus she will re-grow it....with her metroid side.
I still think Dark samus can take over Kratos..
He’ll just reduce her to nothing using the blade of Olympus, which was powerful enough to defeat the titans. Which Zeus used to incinerate the entire Spartan army with one swing. Dark Samus loses to the god Kratos.
Dark samus comes back from ashes... Little blue ones.. lol..
There wouldn’t be any ashes. When Zeus swung the blade of Olympus he literally reduced an entire army of Spartans to nothing. All that was left was their armor, there were no ashes. Dark Samus wont be coming back for seconds.
| | | 02 Jul 2009 02:16 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 2,226 ONLINE | Xx edgarxX wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
She would alter dementions and come back...
like she did in Prime 2
Shes fond of space.. very fond.
The only way she could escape from being imprison by Zeus is if Zeus decided to let her go. Unless you mean to tell me that her will is greater than that of a gods. Not even the titans could escape their imprisonment. Kratos had to go back in time to stop them from losing the battle against the gods.
| | | 02 Jul 2009 02:18 am |
Knight of Vermilion Rep: 68 Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 52,700 ONLINE | GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
 | | | 02 Jul 2009 02:18 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 15Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,437 OFFLINE | GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Xx edgarxX wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Xx edgarxX wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
Ik.. so simple “cuting” a arm off of dark samus she will re-grow it....with her metroid side.
I still think Dark samus can take over Kratos..
He’ll just reduce her to nothing using the blade of Olympus, which was powerful enough to defeat the titans. Which Zeus used to incinerate the entire Spartan army with one swing. Dark Samus loses to the god Kratos.
Dark samus comes back from ashes... Little blue ones.. lol..
There wouldn’t be any ashes. When Zeus swung the blade of Olympus he literally reduced an entire army of Spartans to nothing. All that was left was their armor, there were no ashes. Dark Samus wont be coming back for seconds.
i see Kratos seeing Dark samus..dark samus goes invisable.. and reapears behind him and unleashes the seeds which will temporarily knock him out.. and when he wakes hes not in his state of mind , he in darks state of mind...
Thus dark samus uses him for all eternity ^^ .. And kills samus becuase shes a pain in the ass.. | | | 02 Jul 2009 02:21 am |
Knight of Vermilion Rep: 68Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 52,700 ONLINE | Xx edgarxX wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Xx edgarxX wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Xx edgarxX wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
Ik.. so simple “cuting” a arm off of dark samus she will re-grow it....with her metroid side.
I still think Dark samus can take over Kratos..
He’ll just reduce her to nothing using the blade of Olympus, which was powerful enough to defeat the titans. Which Zeus used to incinerate the entire Spartan army with one swing. Dark Samus loses to the god Kratos.
Dark samus comes back from ashes... Little blue ones.. lol..
There wouldn’t be any ashes. When Zeus swung the blade of Olympus he literally reduced an entire army of Spartans to nothing. All that was left was their armor, there were no ashes. Dark Samus wont be coming back for seconds.
i see Kratos seeing Dark samus..dark samus goes invisable.. and reapears behind him and unleashes the seeds which will temporarily knock him out.. and when he wakes hes not in his state of mind , he in darks state of mind...
Thus dark samus uses him for all eternity ^^ .. And kills samus becuase shes a pain in the ass..
I’m going to note on one thing about this in particular:
Dark Samus' method of cloaking has her appearing as if she suddenly “blows up” into blue sparks. Though certain that this idea is going to be shot down less than a minute from posting, it can be a tactical advantage as it could make Kratos feel as if he won.
So far as I know, this annihilation and reformation of her body is also a method of teleportation.
| | | 02 Jul 2009 02:23 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 15Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,437 OFFLINE | Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
Xx edgarxX wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Xx edgarxX wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Xx edgarxX wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
Ik.. so simple “cuting” a arm off of dark samus she will re-grow it....with her metroid side.
I still think Dark samus can take over Kratos..
He’ll just reduce her to nothing using the blade of Olympus, which was powerful enough to defeat the titans. Which Zeus used to incinerate the entire Spartan army with one swing. Dark Samus loses to the god Kratos.
Dark samus comes back from ashes... Little blue ones.. lol..
There wouldn’t be any ashes. When Zeus swung the blade of Olympus he literally reduced an entire army of Spartans to nothing. All that was left was their armor, there were no ashes. Dark Samus wont be coming back for seconds.
i see Kratos seeing Dark samus..dark samus goes invisable.. and reapears behind him and unleashes the seeds which will temporarily knock him out.. and when he wakes hes not in his state of mind , he in darks state of mind...
Thus dark samus uses him for all eternity ^^ .. And kills samus becuase shes a pain in the ass..
I’m going to note on one thing about this in particular:
Dark Samus' method of cloaking has her appearing as if she suddenly “blows up” into blue sparks. Though certain that this idea is going to be shot down less than a minute from posting, it can be a tactical advantage as it could make Kratos feel as if he won.
So far as I know, this annihilation and reformation of her body is also a method of teleportation.
So what are you saying? ^_^ | | | 02 Jul 2009 02:25 am |
Knight of Vermilion Rep: 68Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 52,700 ONLINE | Xx edgarxX wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
Xx edgarxX wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Xx edgarxX wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Xx edgarxX wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
Ik.. so simple “cuting” a arm off of dark samus she will re-grow it....with her metroid side.
I still think Dark samus can take over Kratos..
He’ll just reduce her to nothing using the blade of Olympus, which was powerful enough to defeat the titans. Which Zeus used to incinerate the entire Spartan army with one swing. Dark Samus loses to the god Kratos.
Dark samus comes back from ashes... Little blue ones.. lol..
There wouldn’t be any ashes. When Zeus swung the blade of Olympus he literally reduced an entire army of Spartans to nothing. All that was left was their armor, there were no ashes. Dark Samus wont be coming back for seconds.
i see Kratos seeing Dark samus..dark samus goes invisable.. and reapears behind him and unleashes the seeds which will temporarily knock him out.. and when he wakes hes not in his state of mind , he in darks state of mind...
Thus dark samus uses him for all eternity ^^ .. And kills samus becuase shes a pain in the ass..
I’m going to note on one thing about this in particular:
Dark Samus' method of cloaking has her appearing as if she suddenly “blows up” into blue sparks. Though certain that this idea is going to be shot down less than a minute from posting, it can be a tactical advantage as it could make Kratos feel as if he won.
So far as I know, this annihilation and reformation of her body is also a method of teleportation.
So what are you saying? ^_^
I’m saying that you forgot a detail about the appearance of the cloak. It is not just her becoming invisible all of a sudden, as it seemed in your post.
| | | 02 Jul 2009 02:26 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 2,226 ONLINE | Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant in this debate. Kratos was an equal to Zeus. Dark Samus is not. Your second matter is meaningless. The blades of Olympus were able to defeat the titans, and with one swing Zeus reduced an entire army of Spartans to NOTHING. As in they ceased to exist. This isn’t an antimatter kind of attack. It’s a “you no longer exist because I am a god” kind of attack. Beings in GOW opperate on a much higher level than anything in Metroid. If anything they should be compared to the likes of Thor, Silver Surfer or the top tiers from the comics. Or from the more powerful opponents in the DBZverse. Metroid doesn’t have shit on GOW.
| | | 02 Jul 2009 02:29 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 2,226 ONLINE | Xx edgarxX wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Xx edgarxX wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Xx edgarxX wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
Ik.. so simple “cuting” a arm off of dark samus she will re-grow it....with her metroid side.
I still think Dark samus can take over Kratos..
He’ll just reduce her to nothing using the blade of Olympus, which was powerful enough to defeat the titans. Which Zeus used to incinerate the entire Spartan army with one swing. Dark Samus loses to the god Kratos.
Dark samus comes back from ashes... Little blue ones.. lol..
There wouldn’t be any ashes. When Zeus swung the blade of Olympus he literally reduced an entire army of Spartans to nothing. All that was left was their armor, there were no ashes. Dark Samus wont be coming back for seconds.
i see Kratos seeing Dark samus..dark samus goes invisable.. and reapears behind him and unleashes the seeds which will temporarily knock him out.. and when he wakes hes not in his state of mind , he in darks state of mind...
Thus dark samus uses him for all eternity ^^ .. And kills samus becuase shes a pain in the ass..
I see Kratos not giving a shit about Dark Samus going invisible, because he fought and defeated an invisible opponent in GOW. His name was Perseus, he attacked with a slingshot and would go invisible. Didn’t stop Kratos from brutally killing him.
| | | 02 Jul 2009 02:29 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 15Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,437 OFFLINE | GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant in this debate. Kratos was an equal to Zeus. Dark Samus is not. Your second matter is meaningless. The blades of Olympus were able to defeat the titans, and with one swing Zeus reduced an entire army of Spartans to NOTHING. As in they ceased to exist. This isn’t an antimatter kind of attack. It’s a “you no longer exist because I am a god” kind of attack. Beings in GOW opperate on a much higher level than anything in Metroid. If anything they should be compared to the likes of Thor, Silver Surfer or the top tiers from the comics. Or from the more powerful opponents in the DBZverse. Metroid doesn’t have shit on GOW.
No one in God of war has ever tried to take over Kratos.... | | | 02 Jul 2009 02:32 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 2,226 ONLINE | Xx edgarxX wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant in this debate. Kratos was an equal to Zeus. Dark Samus is not. Your second matter is meaningless. The blades of Olympus were able to defeat the titans, and with one swing Zeus reduced an entire army of Spartans to NOTHING. As in they ceased to exist. This isn’t an antimatter kind of attack. It’s a “you no longer exist because I am a god” kind of attack. Beings in GOW opperate on a much higher level than anything in Metroid. If anything they should be compared to the likes of Thor, Silver Surfer or the top tiers from the comics. Or from the more powerful opponents in the DBZverse. Metroid doesn’t have shit on GOW.
No one in God of war has ever tried to take over Kratos....
So what? Kratos raged and willed his way out of the god of war Ares' illusion JUST before he could land the fatal blow. He escaped from Hades TWICE. He said “fuck you” to his destiny to lose to Ares and killed the sisters of fate. Going by all of this I say that Kratos cannot be taken over by anything or one.
| | | 02 Jul 2009 02:34 am |
Knight of Vermilion Rep: 68Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 52,700 ONLINE | GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant in this debate. Kratos was an equal to Zeus. Dark Samus is not. Your second matter is meaningless. The blades of Olympus were able to defeat the titans, and with one swing Zeus reduced an entire army of Spartans to NOTHING. As in they ceased to exist. This isn’t an antimatter kind of attack. It’s a “you no longer exist because I am a god” kind of attack. Beings in GOW opperate on a much higher level than anything in Metroid. If anything they should be compared to the likes of Thor, Silver Surfer or the top tiers from the comics. Or from the more powerful opponents in the DBZverse. Metroid doesn’t have shit on GOW.
1. It was relevant as you were talking about how Zeus could so easily dispatch of Dark Samus.
2. You said the Spartans' armour remained, yes? Is there any proof that such an attack would work on a being such as Dark Samus?
3. There is still my point about the fact that just because they are labelled as Gods, does not mean that all other attacks are nullified. Lobo from the comic realm I believe has ripped the heads off of a few gods, as an example. (though this can be seen as plot-induced-insanity as well)
| | | 02 Jul 2009 02:37 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 15Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,437 OFFLINE | GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Xx edgarxX wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant in this debate. Kratos was an equal to Zeus. Dark Samus is not. Your second matter is meaningless. The blades of Olympus were able to defeat the titans, and with one swing Zeus reduced an entire army of Spartans to NOTHING. As in they ceased to exist. This isn’t an antimatter kind of attack. It’s a “you no longer exist because I am a god” kind of attack. Beings in GOW opperate on a much higher level than anything in Metroid. If anything they should be compared to the likes of Thor, Silver Surfer or the top tiers from the comics. Or from the more powerful opponents in the DBZverse. Metroid doesn’t have shit on GOW.
No one in God of war has ever tried to take over Kratos....
So what? Kratos raged and willed his way out of the god of war Ares' illusion JUST before he could land the fatal blow. He escaped from Hades TWICE. He said “fuck you” to his destiny to lose to Ares and killed the sisters of fate. Going by all of this I say that Kratos cannot be taken over by anything or one.
an Illusion? so what hes smart enough to escape
He escaped from Hell because it was Posible.There was a way...
Pure Strangth and will wont stop someone from taking over your body... Because they are bassically fused with you.... =/ | | | 02 Jul 2009 02:41 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 2,226 ONLINE | Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant in this debate. Kratos was an equal to Zeus. Dark Samus is not. Your second matter is meaningless. The blades of Olympus were able to defeat the titans, and with one swing Zeus reduced an entire army of Spartans to NOTHING. As in they ceased to exist. This isn’t an antimatter kind of attack. It’s a “you no longer exist because I am a god” kind of attack. Beings in GOW opperate on a much higher level than anything in Metroid. If anything they should be compared to the likes of Thor, Silver Surfer or the top tiers from the comics. Or from the more powerful opponents in the DBZverse. Metroid doesn’t have shit on GOW.
1. It was relevant as you were talking about how Zeus could so easily dispatch of Dark Samus.
2. You said the Spartans' armour remained, yes? Is there any proof that such an attack would work on a being such as Dark Samus?
3. There is still my point about the fact that just because they are labelled as Gods, does not mean that all other attacks are nullified. Lobo from the comic realm I believe has ripped the heads off of a few gods, as an example. (though this can be seen as plot-induced-insanity as well)
1. It’s irrelavent because Zeus vs Kratos =/= Zeus vs Dark Samus.
2. Umm....proof that it would work is the fact that the sword possessed enough power to defeat the titans. And that it reduced the Spartans to nothing. Unless you are going to try and tell me that Dark Samus power is greater than that of a titans, lol.
3. If you want proof of just how powerful these gods are then go to the “Samus vs Kratos” thread. I posted an entire page of videos to showcase their power. After you have seen those videos I don’t think you will want to debate on Dark Samus behalf anymore.
| | | 02 Jul 2009 02:44 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 2,226 ONLINE | Xx edgarxX wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Xx edgarxX wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant in this debate. Kratos was an equal to Zeus. Dark Samus is not. Your second matter is meaningless. The blades of Olympus were able to defeat the titans, and with one swing Zeus reduced an entire army of Spartans to NOTHING. As in they ceased to exist. This isn’t an antimatter kind of attack. It’s a “you no longer exist because I am a god” kind of attack. Beings in GOW opperate on a much higher level than anything in Metroid. If anything they should be compared to the likes of Thor, Silver Surfer or the top tiers from the comics. Or from the more powerful opponents in the DBZverse. Metroid doesn’t have shit on GOW.
No one in God of war has ever tried to take over Kratos....
So what? Kratos raged and willed his way out of the god of war Ares' illusion JUST before he could land the fatal blow. He escaped from Hades TWICE. He said “fuck you” to his destiny to lose to Ares and killed the sisters of fate. Going by all of this I say that Kratos cannot be taken over by anything or one.
an Illusion? so what hes smart enough to escape
He escaped from Hell because it was Posible.There was a way...
Pure Strangth and will wont stop someone from taking over your body... Because they are bassically fused with you.... =/
Kratos escaped from DEATH TWO TIMES. Someone who can escape from death, overcome an illusion from a god, and defy fate itself isn’t getting taken over by anything. The only reason he was able to do it was because of his immense rage and bloodlust and will. Dark Samus will NEVER take Kratos over.
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