| 02 Jul 2009 02:45 am |
Knight of Vermilion Rep: 68  Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 52,704 ONLINE | GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant in this debate. Kratos was an equal to Zeus. Dark Samus is not. Your second matter is meaningless. The blades of Olympus were able to defeat the titans, and with one swing Zeus reduced an entire army of Spartans to NOTHING. As in they ceased to exist. This isn’t an antimatter kind of attack. It’s a “you no longer exist because I am a god” kind of attack. Beings in GOW opperate on a much higher level than anything in Metroid. If anything they should be compared to the likes of Thor, Silver Surfer or the top tiers from the comics. Or from the more powerful opponents in the DBZverse. Metroid doesn’t have shit on GOW.
1. It was relevant as you were talking about how Zeus could so easily dispatch of Dark Samus.
2. You said the Spartans' armour remained, yes? Is there any proof that such an attack would work on a being such as Dark Samus?
3. There is still my point about the fact that just because they are labelled as Gods, does not mean that all other attacks are nullified. Lobo from the comic realm I believe has ripped the heads off of a few gods, as an example. (though this can be seen as plot-induced-insanity as well)
1. It’s irrelavent because Zeus vs Kratos =/= Zeus vs Dark Samus.
2. Umm....proof that it would work is the fact that the sword possessed enough power to defeat the titans. And that it reduced the Spartans to nothing. Unless you are going to try and tell me that Dark Samus power is greater than that of a titans, lol.
3. If you want proof of just how powerful these gods are then go to the “Samus vs Kratos” thread. I posted an entire page of videos to showcase their power. After you have seen those videos I don’t think you will want to debate on Dark Samus behalf anymore.
1. Yet the topic is Kratos vs Dark Samus.
2. There’s nothing yet to say whether Dark Samus is, or is not, above the Titans. I will not say she is above them in terms of power, nor will I be forced to acknowledge that she is below them.
3. I believe I have a fairly good understanding of the power of these “gods”, having gone through my “God of War fanboy” stage and looked fairly intensely at various videos. However, for your pleasure, I will watch the ones you posted, and ahead of time I do commemorate that you took the time to post them. Good job. 
 | | | | 02 Jul 2009 02:50 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17  Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 2,226 OFFLINE | Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant in this debate. Kratos was an equal to Zeus. Dark Samus is not. Your second matter is meaningless. The blades of Olympus were able to defeat the titans, and with one swing Zeus reduced an entire army of Spartans to NOTHING. As in they ceased to exist. This isn’t an antimatter kind of attack. It’s a “you no longer exist because I am a god” kind of attack. Beings in GOW opperate on a much higher level than anything in Metroid. If anything they should be compared to the likes of Thor, Silver Surfer or the top tiers from the comics. Or from the more powerful opponents in the DBZverse. Metroid doesn’t have shit on GOW.
1. It was relevant as you were talking about how Zeus could so easily dispatch of Dark Samus.
2. You said the Spartans' armour remained, yes? Is there any proof that such an attack would work on a being such as Dark Samus?
3. There is still my point about the fact that just because they are labelled as Gods, does not mean that all other attacks are nullified. Lobo from the comic realm I believe has ripped the heads off of a few gods, as an example. (though this can be seen as plot-induced-insanity as well)
1. It’s irrelavent because Zeus vs Kratos =/= Zeus vs Dark Samus.
2. Umm....proof that it would work is the fact that the sword possessed enough power to defeat the titans. And that it reduced the Spartans to nothing. Unless you are going to try and tell me that Dark Samus power is greater than that of a titans, lol.
3. If you want proof of just how powerful these gods are then go to the “Samus vs Kratos” thread. I posted an entire page of videos to showcase their power. After you have seen those videos I don’t think you will want to debate on Dark Samus behalf anymore.
1. Yet the topic is Kratos vs Dark Samus.
2. There’s nothing yet to say whether Dark Samus is, or is not, above the Titans. I will not say she is above them in terms of power, nor will I be forced to acknowledge that she is below them.
3. I believe I have a fairly good understanding of the power of these “gods”, having gone through my “God of War fanboy” stage and looked fairly intensely at various videos. However, for your pleasure, I will watch the ones you posted, and ahead of time I do commemorate that you took the time to post them. Good job.
1. So then why did you bring up Zeus in the first place?
2. It’s a fact that she isn’t above the titans, and she sure as hell isn’t on their level. Otherwise Samus would never have been able to defeat her, unless she gained the powers of a god.
3. If you truly do have an understanding of these gods then you would not question their powers as such. Clearly you have little understanding of the powers of the gods in GOW. Otherwise you wouldn’t be claiming that Dark Samus can defeat Kratos.
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Knight of Vermilion Rep: 68Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 52,704 ONLINE | GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant in this debate. Kratos was an equal to Zeus. Dark Samus is not. Your second matter is meaningless. The blades of Olympus were able to defeat the titans, and with one swing Zeus reduced an entire army of Spartans to NOTHING. As in they ceased to exist. This isn’t an antimatter kind of attack. It’s a “you no longer exist because I am a god” kind of attack. Beings in GOW opperate on a much higher level than anything in Metroid. If anything they should be compared to the likes of Thor, Silver Surfer or the top tiers from the comics. Or from the more powerful opponents in the DBZverse. Metroid doesn’t have shit on GOW.
1. It was relevant as you were talking about how Zeus could so easily dispatch of Dark Samus.
2. You said the Spartans' armour remained, yes? Is there any proof that such an attack would work on a being such as Dark Samus?
3. There is still my point about the fact that just because they are labelled as Gods, does not mean that all other attacks are nullified. Lobo from the comic realm I believe has ripped the heads off of a few gods, as an example. (though this can be seen as plot-induced-insanity as well)
1. It’s irrelavent because Zeus vs Kratos =/= Zeus vs Dark Samus.
2. Umm....proof that it would work is the fact that the sword possessed enough power to defeat the titans. And that it reduced the Spartans to nothing. Unless you are going to try and tell me that Dark Samus power is greater than that of a titans, lol.
3. If you want proof of just how powerful these gods are then go to the “Samus vs Kratos” thread. I posted an entire page of videos to showcase their power. After you have seen those videos I don’t think you will want to debate on Dark Samus behalf anymore.
1. Yet the topic is Kratos vs Dark Samus.
2. There’s nothing yet to say whether Dark Samus is, or is not, above the Titans. I will not say she is above them in terms of power, nor will I be forced to acknowledge that she is below them.
3. I believe I have a fairly good understanding of the power of these “gods”, having gone through my “God of War fanboy” stage and looked fairly intensely at various videos. However, for your pleasure, I will watch the ones you posted, and ahead of time I do commemorate that you took the time to post them. Good job.
1. So then why did you bring up Zeus in the first place?
2. It’s a fact that she isn’t above the titans, and she sure as hell isn’t on their level. Otherwise Samus would never have been able to defeat her, unless she gained the powers of a god.
3. If you truly do have an understanding of these gods then you would not question their powers as such. Clearly you have little understanding of the powers of the gods in GOW. Otherwise you wouldn’t be claiming that Dark Samus can defeat Kratos.
1. To prove that he bleeds, is biological etc. Not an energy being such as Dark Samus.
2. As I said, I am not going to say one way or another. As for Samus beating her, I am in belief that that reeks of POS, considering that she can resist corruption while the other hunters could not, just as a starting point. (nevermind DS left after initially corrupting them, instead of staying behind and finishing it, etc.)
3. Wait, so because I don’t agree with your viewpoint, I have little or no understanding?
| | | 02 Jul 2009 03:09 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 2,226 OFFLINE | Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant in this debate. Kratos was an equal to Zeus. Dark Samus is not. Your second matter is meaningless. The blades of Olympus were able to defeat the titans, and with one swing Zeus reduced an entire army of Spartans to NOTHING. As in they ceased to exist. This isn’t an antimatter kind of attack. It’s a “you no longer exist because I am a god” kind of attack. Beings in GOW opperate on a much higher level than anything in Metroid. If anything they should be compared to the likes of Thor, Silver Surfer or the top tiers from the comics. Or from the more powerful opponents in the DBZverse. Metroid doesn’t have shit on GOW.
1. It was relevant as you were talking about how Zeus could so easily dispatch of Dark Samus.
2. You said the Spartans' armour remained, yes? Is there any proof that such an attack would work on a being such as Dark Samus?
3. There is still my point about the fact that just because they are labelled as Gods, does not mean that all other attacks are nullified. Lobo from the comic realm I believe has ripped the heads off of a few gods, as an example. (though this can be seen as plot-induced-insanity as well)
1. It’s irrelavent because Zeus vs Kratos =/= Zeus vs Dark Samus.
2. Umm....proof that it would work is the fact that the sword possessed enough power to defeat the titans. And that it reduced the Spartans to nothing. Unless you are going to try and tell me that Dark Samus power is greater than that of a titans, lol.
3. If you want proof of just how powerful these gods are then go to the “Samus vs Kratos” thread. I posted an entire page of videos to showcase their power. After you have seen those videos I don’t think you will want to debate on Dark Samus behalf anymore.
1. Yet the topic is Kratos vs Dark Samus.
2. There’s nothing yet to say whether Dark Samus is, or is not, above the Titans. I will not say she is above them in terms of power, nor will I be forced to acknowledge that she is below them.
3. I believe I have a fairly good understanding of the power of these “gods”, having gone through my “God of War fanboy” stage and looked fairly intensely at various videos. However, for your pleasure, I will watch the ones you posted, and ahead of time I do commemorate that you took the time to post them. Good job.
1. So then why did you bring up Zeus in the first place?
2. It’s a fact that she isn’t above the titans, and she sure as hell isn’t on their level. Otherwise Samus would never have been able to defeat her, unless she gained the powers of a god.
3. If you truly do have an understanding of these gods then you would not question their powers as such. Clearly you have little understanding of the powers of the gods in GOW. Otherwise you wouldn’t be claiming that Dark Samus can defeat Kratos.
1. To prove that he bleeds, is biological etc. Not an energy being such as Dark Samus.
2. As I said, I am not going to say one way or another. As for Samus beating her, I am in belief that that reeks of POS, considering that she can resist corruption while the other hunters could not, just as a starting point. (nevermind DS left after initially corrupting them, instead of staying behind and finishing it, etc.)
3. Wait, so because I don’t agree with your viewpoint, I have little or no understanding?
1. He bleeds because Kratos too is a god attacking him. Dark Samus isn’t and does not possess the powers of one.
2. It’s not a matter of whether you won’t say or not. I’ll say it for you, Dark Samus is not anywhere near the power of a titan.
3. Pretty much.
| | | 02 Jul 2009 03:19 am |
Knight of Vermilion Rep: 68Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 52,704 ONLINE | GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant in this debate. Kratos was an equal to Zeus. Dark Samus is not. Your second matter is meaningless. The blades of Olympus were able to defeat the titans, and with one swing Zeus reduced an entire army of Spartans to NOTHING. As in they ceased to exist. This isn’t an antimatter kind of attack. It’s a “you no longer exist because I am a god” kind of attack. Beings in GOW opperate on a much higher level than anything in Metroid. If anything they should be compared to the likes of Thor, Silver Surfer or the top tiers from the comics. Or from the more powerful opponents in the DBZverse. Metroid doesn’t have shit on GOW.
1. It was relevant as you were talking about how Zeus could so easily dispatch of Dark Samus.
2. You said the Spartans' armour remained, yes? Is there any proof that such an attack would work on a being such as Dark Samus?
3. There is still my point about the fact that just because they are labelled as Gods, does not mean that all other attacks are nullified. Lobo from the comic realm I believe has ripped the heads off of a few gods, as an example. (though this can be seen as plot-induced-insanity as well)
1. It’s irrelavent because Zeus vs Kratos =/= Zeus vs Dark Samus.
2. Umm....proof that it would work is the fact that the sword possessed enough power to defeat the titans. And that it reduced the Spartans to nothing. Unless you are going to try and tell me that Dark Samus power is greater than that of a titans, lol.
3. If you want proof of just how powerful these gods are then go to the “Samus vs Kratos” thread. I posted an entire page of videos to showcase their power. After you have seen those videos I don’t think you will want to debate on Dark Samus behalf anymore.
1. Yet the topic is Kratos vs Dark Samus.
2. There’s nothing yet to say whether Dark Samus is, or is not, above the Titans. I will not say she is above them in terms of power, nor will I be forced to acknowledge that she is below them.
3. I believe I have a fairly good understanding of the power of these “gods”, having gone through my “God of War fanboy” stage and looked fairly intensely at various videos. However, for your pleasure, I will watch the ones you posted, and ahead of time I do commemorate that you took the time to post them. Good job.
1. So then why did you bring up Zeus in the first place?
2. It’s a fact that she isn’t above the titans, and she sure as hell isn’t on their level. Otherwise Samus would never have been able to defeat her, unless she gained the powers of a god.
3. If you truly do have an understanding of these gods then you would not question their powers as such. Clearly you have little understanding of the powers of the gods in GOW. Otherwise you wouldn’t be claiming that Dark Samus can defeat Kratos.
1. To prove that he bleeds, is biological etc. Not an energy being such as Dark Samus.
2. As I said, I am not going to say one way or another. As for Samus beating her, I am in belief that that reeks of POS, considering that she can resist corruption while the other hunters could not, just as a starting point. (nevermind DS left after initially corrupting them, instead of staying behind and finishing it, etc.)
3. Wait, so because I don’t agree with your viewpoint, I have little or no understanding?
1. He bleeds because Kratos too is a god attacking him. Dark Samus isn’t and does not possess the powers of one.
2. It’s not a matter of whether you won’t say or not. I’ll say it for you, Dark Samus is not anywhere near the power of a titan.
3. Pretty much.
1. At that point the sword of olympus goes back and forth and, from what I know at the beginning, Kratos' godliness is taken from him and he is rendered mortal.
2. I’m not going to make that conclusion because I have no proof. Without proof there is no fact. Without fact, I will not make the claim. You may say it as you want, but it doesn’t make it fact. That, either way, is another matter entirely.
3. Then there’s no part in me being present in this debate, if it is going to be drawn to accusations of “you don’t know what you’re talking about” being thrown back and forth like uncivilized grunts throwing rocks at one another. I feel like taking part in, well, “easy” debates that are very casual I suppose, instead of delving into variants of “you’re an idiot because you won’t agree with me."
(This last statement in the above paragraph I am sure will invoke some sort of rash, hostile response)
Personally I can see Dark Samus still inflicting damage of a significant degree because of the effects of Phazon. I can see her potentially winning because of that aforementioned fact. I can also see Kratos potentially winning because of the power that he does have may have the potential to render Dark Samus unable to fight, much like the first two of her forms in Prime 2. However, me saying this is useless if the other party(ies) is going to see the second part, and only the second part, calling me a fool for claiming the plausibility of the first.
With that I bid thee a good night.
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 15 Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,437 OFFLINE | Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
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Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant in this debate. Kratos was an equal to Zeus. Dark Samus is not. Your second matter is meaningless. The blades of Olympus were able to defeat the titans, and with one swing Zeus reduced an entire army of Spartans to NOTHING. As in they ceased to exist. This isn’t an antimatter kind of attack. It’s a “you no longer exist because I am a god” kind of attack. Beings in GOW opperate on a much higher level than anything in Metroid. If anything they should be compared to the likes of Thor, Silver Surfer or the top tiers from the comics. Or from the more powerful opponents in the DBZverse. Metroid doesn’t have shit on GOW.
1. It was relevant as you were talking about how Zeus could so easily dispatch of Dark Samus.
2. You said the Spartans' armour remained, yes? Is there any proof that such an attack would work on a being such as Dark Samus?
3. There is still my point about the fact that just because they are labelled as Gods, does not mean that all other attacks are nullified. Lobo from the comic realm I believe has ripped the heads off of a few gods, as an example. (though this can be seen as plot-induced-insanity as well)
1. It’s irrelavent because Zeus vs Kratos =/= Zeus vs Dark Samus.
2. Umm....proof that it would work is the fact that the sword possessed enough power to defeat the titans. And that it reduced the Spartans to nothing. Unless you are going to try and tell me that Dark Samus power is greater than that of a titans, lol.
3. If you want proof of just how powerful these gods are then go to the “Samus vs Kratos” thread. I posted an entire page of videos to showcase their power. After you have seen those videos I don’t think you will want to debate on Dark Samus behalf anymore.
1. Yet the topic is Kratos vs Dark Samus.
2. There’s nothing yet to say whether Dark Samus is, or is not, above the Titans. I will not say she is above them in terms of power, nor will I be forced to acknowledge that she is below them.
3. I believe I have a fairly good understanding of the power of these “gods”, having gone through my “God of War fanboy” stage and looked fairly intensely at various videos. However, for your pleasure, I will watch the ones you posted, and ahead of time I do commemorate that you took the time to post them. Good job.
1. So then why did you bring up Zeus in the first place?
2. It’s a fact that she isn’t above the titans, and she sure as hell isn’t on their level. Otherwise Samus would never have been able to defeat her, unless she gained the powers of a god.
3. If you truly do have an understanding of these gods then you would not question their powers as such. Clearly you have little understanding of the powers of the gods in GOW. Otherwise you wouldn’t be claiming that Dark Samus can defeat Kratos.
1. To prove that he bleeds, is biological etc. Not an energy being such as Dark Samus.
2. As I said, I am not going to say one way or another. As for Samus beating her, I am in belief that that reeks of POS, considering that she can resist corruption while the other hunters could not, just as a starting point. (nevermind DS left after initially corrupting them, instead of staying behind and finishing it, etc.)
3. Wait, so because I don’t agree with your viewpoint, I have little or no understanding?
1. He bleeds because Kratos too is a god attacking him. Dark Samus isn’t and does not possess the powers of one.
2. It’s not a matter of whether you won’t say or not. I’ll say it for you, Dark Samus is not anywhere near the power of a titan.
3. Pretty much.
1. At that point the sword of olympus goes back and forth and, from what I know at the beginning, Kratos' godliness is taken from him and he is rendered mortal.
2. I’m not going to make that conclusion because I have no proof. Without proof there is no fact. Without fact, I will not make the claim. You may say it as you want, but it doesn’t make it fact. That, either way, is another matter entirely.
3. Then there’s no part in me being present in this debate, if it is going to be drawn to accusations of “you don’t know what you’re talking about” being thrown back and forth like uncivilized grunts throwing rocks at one another. I feel like taking part in, well, “easy” debates that are very casual I suppose, instead of delving into variants of “you’re an idiot because you won’t agree with me."
(This last statement in the above paragraph I am sure will invoke some sort of rash, hostile response)
Personally I can see Dark Samus still inflicting damage of a significant degree because of the effects of Phazon. I can see her potentially winning because of that aforementioned fact. I can also see Kratos potentially winning because of the power that he does have may have the potential to render Dark Samus unable to fight, much like the first two of her forms in Prime 2. However, me saying this is useless if the other party(ies) is going to see the second part, and only the second part, calling me a fool for claiming the plausibility of the first.
With that I bid thee a good night.
You have a very good point... =)
I do believe that Dark samus can win..
just not with killing...
Kratos is stronger and has power of the gods yes i understand this.
But Even a god can fall , overtaken...
But yes Kratos can win , But it could go ither way... its not easy for anyone.... | | | 02 Jul 2009 03:31 am |
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Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant in this debate. Kratos was an equal to Zeus. Dark Samus is not. Your second matter is meaningless. The blades of Olympus were able to defeat the titans, and with one swing Zeus reduced an entire army of Spartans to NOTHING. As in they ceased to exist. This isn’t an antimatter kind of attack. It’s a “you no longer exist because I am a god” kind of attack. Beings in GOW opperate on a much higher level than anything in Metroid. If anything they should be compared to the likes of Thor, Silver Surfer or the top tiers from the comics. Or from the more powerful opponents in the DBZverse. Metroid doesn’t have shit on GOW.
1. It was relevant as you were talking about how Zeus could so easily dispatch of Dark Samus.
2. You said the Spartans' armour remained, yes? Is there any proof that such an attack would work on a being such as Dark Samus?
3. There is still my point about the fact that just because they are labelled as Gods, does not mean that all other attacks are nullified. Lobo from the comic realm I believe has ripped the heads off of a few gods, as an example. (though this can be seen as plot-induced-insanity as well)
1. It’s irrelavent because Zeus vs Kratos =/= Zeus vs Dark Samus.
2. Umm....proof that it would work is the fact that the sword possessed enough power to defeat the titans. And that it reduced the Spartans to nothing. Unless you are going to try and tell me that Dark Samus power is greater than that of a titans, lol.
3. If you want proof of just how powerful these gods are then go to the “Samus vs Kratos” thread. I posted an entire page of videos to showcase their power. After you have seen those videos I don’t think you will want to debate on Dark Samus behalf anymore.
1. Yet the topic is Kratos vs Dark Samus.
2. There’s nothing yet to say whether Dark Samus is, or is not, above the Titans. I will not say she is above them in terms of power, nor will I be forced to acknowledge that she is below them.
3. I believe I have a fairly good understanding of the power of these “gods”, having gone through my “God of War fanboy” stage and looked fairly intensely at various videos. However, for your pleasure, I will watch the ones you posted, and ahead of time I do commemorate that you took the time to post them. Good job.
1. So then why did you bring up Zeus in the first place?
2. It’s a fact that she isn’t above the titans, and she sure as hell isn’t on their level. Otherwise Samus would never have been able to defeat her, unless she gained the powers of a god.
3. If you truly do have an understanding of these gods then you would not question their powers as such. Clearly you have little understanding of the powers of the gods in GOW. Otherwise you wouldn’t be claiming that Dark Samus can defeat Kratos.
1. To prove that he bleeds, is biological etc. Not an energy being such as Dark Samus.
2. As I said, I am not going to say one way or another. As for Samus beating her, I am in belief that that reeks of POS, considering that she can resist corruption while the other hunters could not, just as a starting point. (nevermind DS left after initially corrupting them, instead of staying behind and finishing it, etc.)
3. Wait, so because I don’t agree with your viewpoint, I have little or no understanding?
1. He bleeds because Kratos too is a god attacking him. Dark Samus isn’t and does not possess the powers of one.
2. It’s not a matter of whether you won’t say or not. I’ll say it for you, Dark Samus is not anywhere near the power of a titan.
3. Pretty much.
1. At that point the sword of olympus goes back and forth and, from what I know at the beginning, Kratos' godliness is taken from him and he is rendered mortal.
2. I’m not going to make that conclusion because I have no proof. Without proof there is no fact. Without fact, I will not make the claim. You may say it as you want, but it doesn’t make it fact. That, either way, is another matter entirely.
3. Then there’s no part in me being present in this debate, if it is going to be drawn to accusations of “you don’t know what you’re talking about” being thrown back and forth like uncivilized grunts throwing rocks at one another. I feel like taking part in, well, “easy” debates that are very casual I suppose, instead of delving into variants of “you’re an idiot because you won’t agree with me."
(This last statement in the above paragraph I am sure will invoke some sort of rash, hostile response)
Personally I can see Dark Samus still inflicting damage of a significant degree because of the effects of Phazon. I can see her potentially winning because of that aforementioned fact. I can also see Kratos potentially winning because of the power that he does have may have the potential to render Dark Samus unable to fight, much like the first two of her forms in Prime 2. However, me saying this is useless if the other party(ies) is going to see the second part, and only the second part, calling me a fool for claiming the plausibility of the first.
With that I bid thee a good night.
1. The hell does this have to do with “God Kratos vs Dark Samus”?
2. Proof is in the videos I posted. Dark Samus isn’t nearly as powerful as the titans.
3. Dark Samus and her Phazon wouldn’t do anything against a full blown god Kratos. If Dark Samus Phazon was that powerful then Samus would have been defeated by it. And I’m not insulting you, I’m just responding to your claim that you are aware of the gods from GOW and what they are capable of, which you clearly don’t. Because if you did you wouldn’t be debating on Dark Samus behalf, it’s just that simple.
4. Okay, later dude.
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Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant in this debate. Kratos was an equal to Zeus. Dark Samus is not. Your second matter is meaningless. The blades of Olympus were able to defeat the titans, and with one swing Zeus reduced an entire army of Spartans to NOTHING. As in they ceased to exist. This isn’t an antimatter kind of attack. It’s a “you no longer exist because I am a god” kind of attack. Beings in GOW opperate on a much higher level than anything in Metroid. If anything they should be compared to the likes of Thor, Silver Surfer or the top tiers from the comics. Or from the more powerful opponents in the DBZverse. Metroid doesn’t have shit on GOW.
1. It was relevant as you were talking about how Zeus could so easily dispatch of Dark Samus.
2. You said the Spartans' armour remained, yes? Is there any proof that such an attack would work on a being such as Dark Samus?
3. There is still my point about the fact that just because they are labelled as Gods, does not mean that all other attacks are nullified. Lobo from the comic realm I believe has ripped the heads off of a few gods, as an example. (though this can be seen as plot-induced-insanity as well)
1. It’s irrelavent because Zeus vs Kratos =/= Zeus vs Dark Samus.
2. Umm....proof that it would work is the fact that the sword possessed enough power to defeat the titans. And that it reduced the Spartans to nothing. Unless you are going to try and tell me that Dark Samus power is greater than that of a titans, lol.
3. If you want proof of just how powerful these gods are then go to the “Samus vs Kratos” thread. I posted an entire page of videos to showcase their power. After you have seen those videos I don’t think you will want to debate on Dark Samus behalf anymore.
1. Yet the topic is Kratos vs Dark Samus.
2. There’s nothing yet to say whether Dark Samus is, or is not, above the Titans. I will not say she is above them in terms of power, nor will I be forced to acknowledge that she is below them.
3. I believe I have a fairly good understanding of the power of these “gods”, having gone through my “God of War fanboy” stage and looked fairly intensely at various videos. However, for your pleasure, I will watch the ones you posted, and ahead of time I do commemorate that you took the time to post them. Good job.
1. So then why did you bring up Zeus in the first place?
2. It’s a fact that she isn’t above the titans, and she sure as hell isn’t on their level. Otherwise Samus would never have been able to defeat her, unless she gained the powers of a god.
3. If you truly do have an understanding of these gods then you would not question their powers as such. Clearly you have little understanding of the powers of the gods in GOW. Otherwise you wouldn’t be claiming that Dark Samus can defeat Kratos.
1. To prove that he bleeds, is biological etc. Not an energy being such as Dark Samus.
2. As I said, I am not going to say one way or another. As for Samus beating her, I am in belief that that reeks of POS, considering that she can resist corruption while the other hunters could not, just as a starting point. (nevermind DS left after initially corrupting them, instead of staying behind and finishing it, etc.)
3. Wait, so because I don’t agree with your viewpoint, I have little or no understanding?
1. He bleeds because Kratos too is a god attacking him. Dark Samus isn’t and does not possess the powers of one.
2. It’s not a matter of whether you won’t say or not. I’ll say it for you, Dark Samus is not anywhere near the power of a titan.
3. Pretty much.
1. At that point the sword of olympus goes back and forth and, from what I know at the beginning, Kratos' godliness is taken from him and he is rendered mortal.
2. I’m not going to make that conclusion because I have no proof. Without proof there is no fact. Without fact, I will not make the claim. You may say it as you want, but it doesn’t make it fact. That, either way, is another matter entirely.
3. Then there’s no part in me being present in this debate, if it is going to be drawn to accusations of “you don’t know what you’re talking about” being thrown back and forth like uncivilized grunts throwing rocks at one another. I feel like taking part in, well, “easy” debates that are very casual I suppose, instead of delving into variants of “you’re an idiot because you won’t agree with me."
(This last statement in the above paragraph I am sure will invoke some sort of rash, hostile response)
Personally I can see Dark Samus still inflicting damage of a significant degree because of the effects of Phazon. I can see her potentially winning because of that aforementioned fact. I can also see Kratos potentially winning because of the power that he does have may have the potential to render Dark Samus unable to fight, much like the first two of her forms in Prime 2. However, me saying this is useless if the other party(ies) is going to see the second part, and only the second part, calling me a fool for claiming the plausibility of the first.
With that I bid thee a good night.
You have a very good point... =)
I do believe that Dark samus can win..
just not with killing...
Kratos is stronger and has power of the gods yes i understand this.
But Even a god can fall , overtaken...
But yes Kratos can win , But it could go ither way... its not easy for anyone....
Yes, a god can fall, but only by a power that is greater than or equal to that of a god. Dark Samus doesn’t come anywhere near this level of power.
It’s not that Kratos CAN win, it’s that he will totally rape Dark Samus. It won’t even be a contest.
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Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant in this debate. Kratos was an equal to Zeus. Dark Samus is not. Your second matter is meaningless. The blades of Olympus were able to defeat the titans, and with one swing Zeus reduced an entire army of Spartans to NOTHING. As in they ceased to exist. This isn’t an antimatter kind of attack. It’s a “you no longer exist because I am a god” kind of attack. Beings in GOW opperate on a much higher level than anything in Metroid. If anything they should be compared to the likes of Thor, Silver Surfer or the top tiers from the comics. Or from the more powerful opponents in the DBZverse. Metroid doesn’t have shit on GOW.
1. It was relevant as you were talking about how Zeus could so easily dispatch of Dark Samus.
2. You said the Spartans' armour remained, yes? Is there any proof that such an attack would work on a being such as Dark Samus?
3. There is still my point about the fact that just because they are labelled as Gods, does not mean that all other attacks are nullified. Lobo from the comic realm I believe has ripped the heads off of a few gods, as an example. (though this can be seen as plot-induced-insanity as well)
1. It’s irrelavent because Zeus vs Kratos =/= Zeus vs Dark Samus.
2. Umm....proof that it would work is the fact that the sword possessed enough power to defeat the titans. And that it reduced the Spartans to nothing. Unless you are going to try and tell me that Dark Samus power is greater than that of a titans, lol.
3. If you want proof of just how powerful these gods are then go to the “Samus vs Kratos” thread. I posted an entire page of videos to showcase their power. After you have seen those videos I don’t think you will want to debate on Dark Samus behalf anymore.
1. Yet the topic is Kratos vs Dark Samus.
2. There’s nothing yet to say whether Dark Samus is, or is not, above the Titans. I will not say she is above them in terms of power, nor will I be forced to acknowledge that she is below them.
3. I believe I have a fairly good understanding of the power of these “gods”, having gone through my “God of War fanboy” stage and looked fairly intensely at various videos. However, for your pleasure, I will watch the ones you posted, and ahead of time I do commemorate that you took the time to post them. Good job.
1. So then why did you bring up Zeus in the first place?
2. It’s a fact that she isn’t above the titans, and she sure as hell isn’t on their level. Otherwise Samus would never have been able to defeat her, unless she gained the powers of a god.
3. If you truly do have an understanding of these gods then you would not question their powers as such. Clearly you have little understanding of the powers of the gods in GOW. Otherwise you wouldn’t be claiming that Dark Samus can defeat Kratos.
1. To prove that he bleeds, is biological etc. Not an energy being such as Dark Samus.
2. As I said, I am not going to say one way or another. As for Samus beating her, I am in belief that that reeks of POS, considering that she can resist corruption while the other hunters could not, just as a starting point. (nevermind DS left after initially corrupting them, instead of staying behind and finishing it, etc.)
3. Wait, so because I don’t agree with your viewpoint, I have little or no understanding?
1. He bleeds because Kratos too is a god attacking him. Dark Samus isn’t and does not possess the powers of one.
2. It’s not a matter of whether you won’t say or not. I’ll say it for you, Dark Samus is not anywhere near the power of a titan.
3. Pretty much.
1. At that point the sword of olympus goes back and forth and, from what I know at the beginning, Kratos' godliness is taken from him and he is rendered mortal.
2. I’m not going to make that conclusion because I have no proof. Without proof there is no fact. Without fact, I will not make the claim. You may say it as you want, but it doesn’t make it fact. That, either way, is another matter entirely.
3. Then there’s no part in me being present in this debate, if it is going to be drawn to accusations of “you don’t know what you’re talking about” being thrown back and forth like uncivilized grunts throwing rocks at one another. I feel like taking part in, well, “easy” debates that are very casual I suppose, instead of delving into variants of “you’re an idiot because you won’t agree with me."
(This last statement in the above paragraph I am sure will invoke some sort of rash, hostile response)
Personally I can see Dark Samus still inflicting damage of a significant degree because of the effects of Phazon. I can see her potentially winning because of that aforementioned fact. I can also see Kratos potentially winning because of the power that he does have may have the potential to render Dark Samus unable to fight, much like the first two of her forms in Prime 2. However, me saying this is useless if the other party(ies) is going to see the second part, and only the second part, calling me a fool for claiming the plausibility of the first.
With that I bid thee a good night.
1. The hell does this have to do with “God Kratos vs Dark Samus”?
2. Proof is in the videos I posted. Dark Samus isn’t nearly as powerful as the titans.
3. Dark Samus and her Phazon wouldn’t do anything against a full blown god Kratos. If Dark Samus Phazon was that powerful then Samus would have been defeated by it. And I’m not insulting you, I’m just responding to your claim that you are aware of the gods from GOW and what they are capable of, which you clearly don’t. Because if you did you wouldn’t be debating on Dark Samus behalf, it’s just that simple.
4. Okay, later dude.
Samus one because of the fact that Dark samus has one! weakness..
Over rided by Phazon like to much power..
God power that Kratos has .. Excluding the sword
Is God lightning.. which is like rugular lightning but more controlalbe.
Anything els Kratos has besides lightning and that Sword?.. | | | 02 Jul 2009 03:38 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 2,226 OFFLINE | Umm...what are you trying to say? ---
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 15Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,437 OFFLINE | GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Xx edgarxX wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Kratos is a god. He isn’t bound by any of Dark Samus rules. If he wants to destroy her then he will do so. He will just waltz right in front of whatever attacks she throws at him and simply disembowel her. She wont be able to take him over, his rage and will would prevent that from happening. And remember, his rage and will were enough to allow him to escape from hades TWICE when he died, it also snapped him out of Ares illusion.
Kratos wins this.
Zeus still bleeds, and the Olympic Gods still die, so I don’t really see what reasoning there is to say that Dark Samus' “rules” can simply be overruled just because he is labelled as a “god."
I also don’t honestly see how a being comprised completely of energy and a radioactive substance can be disembowelled.
Comparatively, in terms of will-power, Dark Samus has reformed herself from particles and having her form disrupted.
Also, I was unsure if what Ares did to Kratos was an illusion or not, but if it is, I believe that shows that his mind is still, at least a little, suspect to mental attacks. So far as I knew, it was actually in another dimension, though that is reading off a wikipedia article and I thus did not know for certain.
You would have a point, only Zeus doesn’t die from those fierce blows from Kratos in full blown god mode, but they would have killed him. Again though, the gods in GOW fight on a higher level than anything in Metroid. You want proof? Take a look at that Samus vs Kratos topic. I posted a bunch of videos showcasing the powers of the gods in GOW. Dark Samus does not posses the power to kill a full blown god Kratos. She doesn’t. And I defy anyone in here to prove otherwise.
And, I never did say Zeus died. In fact I know he survived, though relatively weakened. The point was that he bleeds. Yes, he does have a great amount of power, but that does not automatically overrule him from effects of things such as Phazon that have corrupted (poisoned) planets.
Corrupting a planet =/= possessing a power great enough to kill or injure a god. Zeus got beat down by Kratos, who too is a god. Dark Samus wouldn’t even stand a chance against Zeus. All he would need to do is launch one lightning bolt at her, or just imprison her in space for all eternity or something like that, which he does to the titans. Well...imprisoning them that is.
Firstly, you’re digressing and going on about Zeus, who got cocky and was tricked by Kratos. I believe him mentioning that he wasn’t going to “play his little game” with Kratos before going back to his full size and beginning to fry Kratos again.
Secondly, as I stated before, normal attacks such as lightning would likely do little to Dark Samus, as matter/antimatter shots did little at the end of prime 2, and she is significantly more durable in prime 3. Dark Samus has also shown a capability to escape a dimension in prime 2.
Thirdly, as I said before, I see no proper reasoning that, just because he is labelled as a God, that Dark Samus' abilities are instantly nullified. Insects can see us as Gods, but it means nothing as bullets can still kill us as well. Just to use as a metaphorical example.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant in this debate. Kratos was an equal to Zeus. Dark Samus is not. Your second matter is meaningless. The blades of Olympus were able to defeat the titans, and with one swing Zeus reduced an entire army of Spartans to NOTHING. As in they ceased to exist. This isn’t an antimatter kind of attack. It’s a “you no longer exist because I am a god” kind of attack. Beings in GOW opperate on a much higher level than anything in Metroid. If anything they should be compared to the likes of Thor, Silver Surfer or the top tiers from the comics. Or from the more powerful opponents in the DBZverse. Metroid doesn’t have shit on GOW.
1. It was relevant as you were talking about how Zeus could so easily dispatch of Dark Samus.
2. You said the Spartans' armour remained, yes? Is there any proof that such an attack would work on a being such as Dark Samus?
3. There is still my point about the fact that just because they are labelled as Gods, does not mean that all other attacks are nullified. Lobo from the comic realm I believe has ripped the heads off of a few gods, as an example. (though this can be seen as plot-induced-insanity as well)
1. It’s irrelavent because Zeus vs Kratos =/= Zeus vs Dark Samus.
2. Umm....proof that it would work is the fact that the sword possessed enough power to defeat the titans. And that it reduced the Spartans to nothing. Unless you are going to try and tell me that Dark Samus power is greater than that of a titans, lol.
3. If you want proof of just how powerful these gods are then go to the “Samus vs Kratos” thread. I posted an entire page of videos to showcase their power. After you have seen those videos I don’t think you will want to debate on Dark Samus behalf anymore.
1. Yet the topic is Kratos vs Dark Samus.
2. There’s nothing yet to say whether Dark Samus is, or is not, above the Titans. I will not say she is above them in terms of power, nor will I be forced to acknowledge that she is below them.
3. I believe I have a fairly good understanding of the power of these “gods”, having gone through my “God of War fanboy” stage and looked fairly intensely at various videos. However, for your pleasure, I will watch the ones you posted, and ahead of time I do commemorate that you took the time to post them. Good job.
1. So then why did you bring up Zeus in the first place?
2. It’s a fact that she isn’t above the titans, and she sure as hell isn’t on their level. Otherwise Samus would never have been able to defeat her, unless she gained the powers of a god.
3. If you truly do have an understanding of these gods then you would not question their powers as such. Clearly you have little understanding of the powers of the gods in GOW. Otherwise you wouldn’t be claiming that Dark Samus can defeat Kratos.
1. To prove that he bleeds, is biological etc. Not an energy being such as Dark Samus.
2. As I said, I am not going to say one way or another. As for Samus beating her, I am in belief that that reeks of POS, considering that she can resist corruption while the other hunters could not, just as a starting point. (nevermind DS left after initially corrupting them, instead of staying behind and finishing it, etc.)
3. Wait, so because I don’t agree with your viewpoint, I have little or no understanding?
1. He bleeds because Kratos too is a god attacking him. Dark Samus isn’t and does not possess the powers of one.
2. It’s not a matter of whether you won’t say or not. I’ll say it for you, Dark Samus is not anywhere near the power of a titan.
3. Pretty much.
1. At that point the sword of olympus goes back and forth and, from what I know at the beginning, Kratos' godliness is taken from him and he is rendered mortal.
2. I’m not going to make that conclusion because I have no proof. Without proof there is no fact. Without fact, I will not make the claim. You may say it as you want, but it doesn’t make it fact. That, either way, is another matter entirely.
3. Then there’s no part in me being present in this debate, if it is going to be drawn to accusations of “you don’t know what you’re talking about” being thrown back and forth like uncivilized grunts throwing rocks at one another. I feel like taking part in, well, “easy” debates that are very casual I suppose, instead of delving into variants of “you’re an idiot because you won’t agree with me."
(This last statement in the above paragraph I am sure will invoke some sort of rash, hostile response)
Personally I can see Dark Samus still inflicting damage of a significant degree because of the effects of Phazon. I can see her potentially winning because of that aforementioned fact. I can also see Kratos potentially winning because of the power that he does have may have the potential to render Dark Samus unable to fight, much like the first two of her forms in Prime 2. However, me saying this is useless if the other party(ies) is going to see the second part, and only the second part, calling me a fool for claiming the plausibility of the first.
With that I bid thee a good night.
You have a very good point... =)
I do believe that Dark samus can win..
just not with killing...
Kratos is stronger and has power of the gods yes i understand this.
But Even a god can fall , overtaken...
But yes Kratos can win , But it could go ither way... its not easy for anyone....
Yes, a god can fall, but only by a power that is greater than or equal to that of a god. Dark Samus doesn’t come anywhere near this level of power.
It’s not that Kratos CAN win, it’s that he will totally rape Dark Samus. It won’t even be a contest.
there was a way tp escape out of hell thats why he escaped ...
The illusion had a way to escape out of..
Somone taking over your body is alot differnt then a illusion or sending you someplace.. | | | 02 Jul 2009 03:49 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 15Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,437 OFFLINE | GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Umm...what are you trying to say?
That The god powers... arnt really inhanced .. but he can use them as long as he wants..
But i was asking.. what powers does Kratos have besides Lighting and That Sword.. ? Last edited 02 Jul 2009 03:52 am by Xx edgarxX | | | 02 Jul 2009 06:45 am |
Regular Rep: 3Joined: 01 Jul 2009 Posts: 136 OFFLINE | (Not a reply to those posts with numbered lists; just listing down some stuff)
1. How can Dark Samus “rule” over a man as large as or larger than the Statue of Liberty? Also note that this is Greek Mythology — yes, it is biological, but note that only Olympians and Titans can hurt each other. You can’t knock out a god, or bleed him/her to death, or possess him/her like a ghost, or create illusions against him, if you’re not an Olympian or a Titan or possess a power equal to or great than that of a god. Those are the rules in the Greek Mythology (in the game). Real science or rather science of any kind doesn’t apply here — this is the problem about this battle. I can imagine Dark Samus opening Pandora’s Box in an attempt to pwn Kratos LOL. Now that’s where the REAL fun starts. The problem now is that the Box is somewhere else out of Dark Samus' reach.
2. Zeus' Fury, Army of Hades, Poseidon’s Rage and Rage of the Gods are all Kratos' Olympian powers, while Typhon’s Bane, Atlas Quake, Cronos' Rage and Rage of the Titans are his Titan powers so that’s 8 god powers, plus his demi-god traits like super strength, great durability and resilience (wow talk about being the God of War). His dual blades were from the goddess Athena (Athena’s Blades), and the Blade of Olympus is the sword “forged in both the heavens and the earth” and used to take down an entire army of Titans in a single blow or take down an entire army of Spartan and Rhodes soldiers by turning them to nothing. Also note that if Kratos go god-size, his weapons and other possessions become god-size too. And if God Kratos had the Blade of Olympus, plus a god-size Golden Fleece, Dark Samus won’t stand a chance, really.
3. Tyreaus Dreacon is the real debater here unlike the rest of us here. He knows BOTH God of War and Metroid. Before assuming stuff like a being able to knock out a god, you should know both topics. I played all God of War games (except 3) and Metroid Prime 3, so I know both topics, too (just that I told little about Dark Samus because there’s no need). :P
4. The mural of the Three Wise Men in GoW2 still puzzles me though. I know this is somewhat off-topic, but this makes me believe that the GoW team would turn Chaos (the origin of everything in Greek Mythology) to a god, a Father God if you will, in God of War III.
Also, to be honest, this is the ONLY forum I ever experienced seeing quote flowers these f*cking huge. Seriously guys, if you were to reply a post that is just above you, quoting that post is COMPLETELY unnecessary. AND quoting a quote is more than completely unnecessary. Last edited 02 Jul 2009 08:31 am by angeloelibz24 | | | 02 Jul 2009 01:51 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 15Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,437 OFFLINE | angeloelibz24 wrote:
(Not a reply to those posts with numbered lists; just listing down some stuff)
1. How can Dark Samus “rule” over a man as large as or larger than the Statue of Liberty? Also note that this is Greek Mythology — yes, it is biological, but note that only Olympians and Titans can hurt each other. You can’t knock out a god, or bleed him/her to death, or possess him/her like a ghost, or create illusions against him, if you’re not an Olympian or a Titan or possess a power equal to or great than that of a god. Those are the rules in the Greek Mythology (in the game). Real science or rather science of any kind doesn’t apply here — this is the problem about this battle. I can imagine Dark Samus opening Pandora’s Box in an attempt to pwn Kratos LOL. Now that’s where the REAL fun starts. The problem now is that the Box is somewhere else out of Dark Samus' reach.
2. Zeus' Fury, Army of Hades, Poseidon’s Rage and Rage of the Gods are all Kratos' Olympian powers, while Typhon’s Bane, Atlas Quake, Cronos' Rage and Rage of the Titans are his Titan powers so that’s 8 god powers, plus his demi-god traits like super strength, great durability and resilience (wow talk about being the God of War). His dual blades were from the goddess Athena (Athena’s Blades), and the Blade of Olympus is the sword “forged in both the heavens and the earth” and used to take down an entire army of Titans in a single blow or take down an entire army of Spartan and Rhodes soldiers by turning them to nothing. Also note that if Kratos go god-size, his weapons and other possessions become god-size too. And if God Kratos had the Blade of Olympus, plus a god-size Golden Fleece, Dark Samus won’t stand a chance, really.
3. Tyreaus Dreacon is the real debater here unlike the rest of us here. He knows BOTH God of War and Metroid. Before assuming stuff like a being able to knock out a god, you should know both topics. I played all God of War games (except 3) and Metroid Prime 3, so I know both topics, too (just that I told little about Dark Samus because there’s no need). :P
4. The mural of the Three Wise Men in GoW2 still puzzles me though. I know this is somewhat off-topic, but this makes me believe that the GoW team would turn Chaos (the origin of everything in Greek Mythology) to a god, a Father God if you will, in God of War III.
Also, to be honest, this is the ONLY forum I ever experienced seeing quote flowers these f*cking huge. Seriously guys, if you were to reply a post that is just above you, quoting that post is COMPLETELY unnecessary. AND quoting a quote is more than completely unnecessary.
assuming pandoras Box is more powerfull them dark samus is.
and im going to assume at this time kratos does not know where pandoras Box is....
If Pandoras Box is So powerfull it gives off a power scale/ura...(almost like radiation)...
This might sound tottaly rediculous. But what if Dark samus sensed This all might power(Because why wouldint she. shes made of pure Phazon, and she could prolly sense out other energy signitures. And all metroids in the siries Had a lust for power ,and searched it out) And of course its more power then she could ever emagine.... Its Posibal that she could find pandorsas Box Faster then Kratos ever could.... open it , and growing to a Very large feet. | | | 02 Jul 2009 01:59 pm |
Regular Rep: 3Joined: 01 Jul 2009 Posts: 136 OFFLINE | I doubt she would faster than Kratos. Like I said science of any kind doesn’t apply to Greek Mythology. Pandora’s Box is probably back at the booby-trapped Pandora’s Temple, and Dark Samus would still need to get through the traps still. Even modern-day people (as revealed in one of the bonus media in GoW1) find the place highly-dangerous for one man to go to. Also note that Kratos was guided by the Gods when he went through the temple — it’s mostly their support that he was able to get through the temple unharmed, except of course when Aries tries to kill him with a big stick at the time when he successfully retrieves the Box.
Also, when I thought of it: Because the Box was already opened, and would probably be useful for just one person, I believe there’s nothing to get or to benefit from the Box anymore, now that Kratos took whatever’s in it. There goes my “Lord Dark Samus” idea. :/
Also you CAN’T assume it’s more powerful than Dark Samus. It SHOULD. Even Aries tried threatening Olympus itself with the Box, and Gaia (the narrator of the game) did say “the powers of the Gods, unleashed” when Kratos opened it, AND Kratos was able to use its power to kill a God (who should be an immortal), so we can be sure that the Box does contain godly power. Last edited 02 Jul 2009 02:05 pm by angeloelibz24 | | | 02 Jul 2009 02:03 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 15Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,437 OFFLINE | angeloelibz24 wrote:
I doubt she would faster than Kratos. Like I said science of any kind doesn’t apply to Greek Mythology. Pandora’s Box is probably back at the booby-trapped Pandora’s Temple. Even modern-day people (as revealed in one of the bonus media in GoW1) find the place highly-dangerous for one man to go to. Also note that Kratos was guided by the Gods when he went through the temple — it’s mostly their support that he was able to get through the temple unharmed, except of course when Aries tries to kill him with a big stick at the time that he was able to get the Box.
AND because the Box was already opened, and would probably be useful for just one person, I believe there’s nothing to get from the Box anymore, now that Kratos took whatever’s in it.
But im saying If... he didint open it yet....
and dark samus would have no trouble with the booby traps. Shed just go intangable.... And If she got to the box... Then what? | | | 02 Jul 2009 02:17 pm |
The Devil Killer Guest | Gods can be crippled, maimed, killed, etc. just like a mortal can. Now, God Kratos could probably just step on Samus. True immortals can’t die. Anyway, if he has the same powers as Ares, he could pop her head. | | | 02 Jul 2009 02:20 pm |
Regular Rep: 3Joined: 01 Jul 2009 Posts: 136 OFFLINE | Xx edgarxX wrote:
But im saying If... he didint open it yet....
and dark samus would have no trouble with the booby traps. Shed just go intangable.... And If she got to the box... Then what?
lol that would be epic. A god-sized Dark Samus who can’t be killed at all, even with Phazon (unless Samus finds a way to give Phazon god powers). Other than being able to kill the Gods (that means both the Olympians and the Titans), she could also “possess” them. She’d dominate more than God Kratos would, still, in my opinion, Kratos' “slow and steady” technique of dominating the Gods is more epic than the more advantageous technique “Lord Dark Samus” would have.
As for the intangible thing, she’s still need to go through the booby traps like a normal person would. Note that the whole temple itself is “enchanted” with godly power. Like I said, science doesn’t apply to Greek Mythology, so she can’t phase through all the traps.
The Devil Killer wrote:
Gods can be crippled, maimed, killed, etc. just like a mortal can. Now, God Kratos could probably just step on Samus. True immortals can%u2019t die. Anyway, if he has the same powers as Ares, he could pop her head.
Good point. When I think about it, in this battle’s case, Dark Samus can only be intangible to mortal or non-god stuff. Gods can crush her like any mortal. Also, we’re talking about Dark Samus here, not Samus. Last edited 02 Jul 2009 02:25 pm by angeloelibz24 | | | 02 Jul 2009 02:20 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 15Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,437 OFFLINE | The Devil Killer wrote:
Gods can be crippled, maimed, killed, etc. just like a mortal can. Now, God Kratos could probably just step on Samus. True immortals can’t die. Anyway, if he has the same powers as Ares, he could pop her head.
Thats if he has all this at the begining of the fight. | | |
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