Goku in Bastard!!verse

How would Goku do in the manga?

Goku should stick to the lower tiers since Dark Schneider and Satan would be overkill.

So, which of the lower tiers can Goku fight w/o dying in 5 seconds?

Well he can do fine until the end of goddes of destruction Ansuraxas saga.

In bastard!! there are two time skips.

So in other words Goku can do great before the second time skip.

In bastard!! there are many strong characters
like
Arshes Ney (half dakr elf half human, she is like the closest lover to DS)
She can probably fight a Goku from Piccolo saga(during the martial arts tournament)

But.... maybe with Exodus she could kill even sayan saga Goku.

Kal Su “the closest friend of DS” He could fight a Goku from sayan saga.


The problem is that we do not know how strong many characters got after the second time skip like
Like Arshes Ney and Kal Su.

Originally to use a spell they needed to use invocation words, similar with Kido in Bleach. But later DS was able to use his magic attack without needing to say anything.

^According to Raphael to be able to do this you need to be millions of times stronger as minimum.

And if I am not wrong somewhere they said that Kal Su after the second time skip did not needed to use the invocation words.

In other words he must be a monster.

I will bring some general info for you Kaoru.

===========================================================================

Well this links have general info about Magic in Bastard!!

Magic and Techniques in Bastard!!

http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...39&postcount=6
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...63&postcount=7
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...83&postcount=8
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...15&postcount=9
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...6&postcount=10
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...5&postcount=11
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...1&postcount=12

Void Howling


Originally an invention of the humans, the devils and demons adapted the idea to make themselves invulnerable to light-based attacks or attacks performed by angels in general. In order to do that, devils implanted weaker angels inside of their bodies. By forcing the angel to sing with its astral voice the attack of a charging angel is rendered useless. This mainly prevents the devil to be killed by high-level angels such as the Seraphim. The Void Howling also forms counter-energy equal to the power of the attack launched at it.

(first appeared in vol. 20)

If you have time to read you will notice that there is a crazy number of broken power in Bastard!!

===========================================================================

This are links with important termini lol

http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=20497847&postcount=13

General info of Arshes Ney
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=20508506&postcount=18

Abigail
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=20508516&postcount=19

Edee Ee
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=20508661&postcount=29

Anthrax or Ansuraxas
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=20508671&postcount=30

Kal Su
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=20508519&postcount=20

Dhani
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=20508702&postcount=37

lars
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=20508719&postcount=40

Gala
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=20508526&postcount=21

The Demon Kings

http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...7&postcount=41
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...2&postcount=42
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...7&postcount=43
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...2&postcount=44
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...8&postcount=45
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...2&postcount=46
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...7&postcount=47

Other Devils


http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...9&postcount=49
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...6&postcount=50
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...5&postcount=51
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...1&postcount=52

The Divine Guardian Fleet of the Central Galaxy
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=20508795&postcount=53

Angel-classes

http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...3&postcount=64
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...4&postcount=65
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...8&postcount=66
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...4&postcount=67
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...3&postcount=68
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost...7&postcount=69
__________________

Demon GOd??
(Satan referred to that pic as “Demon God”. So far we don’t know who or what said Demon God is, so I’ll leave it as it is for now.)
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3067/godiv3.jpg

The Seraphim-class

They are also called Metatron. Seraphim stand for the love of God and are symbolized by the colour red and by tears. They can have up to three pairs of wings. They are the incarnation of the sun. Some angels of this class, like Luzifer and Beelzebub were rebellious against God and thus cast out of Heaven. They move faster than light and possess the power to destroy entire planets. Michael is the most powerful among them and his task is to kill the devil.

===========================================================================

More info of characters

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=452650&page=4

===========================================================================

He’d probably be the most powerful person on Earth.

Moses Morrison wrote: He’d probably be the most powerful person on Earth.

Until a Dominion uses a Seed: A single, large energy-beam send from the lower arm of a Dominion. Its destructive power is insane, reaching temperatures of 870.000 °C. To turn Goku. into ashes

===========================================================================

According to MikeBUN, Goku’s attacks won’t even be able to work in Bastard!!!. So, pitting him against anyone from it is pointless. If his attacks did work however, well, I’d say he’d be the strongest being next to God.

GodHandTheWorld wrote: According to MikeBUN, Goku’s attacks won’t even be able to work in Bastard!!!. So, pitting him against anyone from it is pointless. If his attacks did work however, well, I’d say he’d be the strongest being next to God.

yea godhand you can tell me when someone in DBZ destroyed a dimension as a side effect. Or destroyed galaxies by just flying around.

By the way I recently found that DS can use also a powerful black hole
Can goku fight against that??

===========================================================================

Sure, by the fact that you just recently found it out tells me it’s some obscure technique that’s not likely to come up in an actual fight between the two. He won’t even need to overcome it.

God or Satan solo anybody...

umm...most of these characters...if they tried to use a cheap technique like turning him into a baby/old man or adjusting reality...goku can cheat as well. he copied telekinesis from frieza so he could use that or he could teleport rip out their heart or he could destroy the entire galaxy.

lose, lose.

Moses Morrison wrote: Sure, by the fact that you just recently found it out tells me it’s some obscure technique that’s not likely to come up in an actual fight between the two. He won’t even need to overcome it.

According to you no technique of DS is likely going to come up.

1) I have been reading manga again and info. That is why I found it out recently.
2)DS has many spells that would be fatal for goku.

Bloodstone
Blacksabath
Atom nuclear distruction.
Helloween
Exodus.
Judas Pain.
etc.
Probably DS has more techniques alone that all the DBZ verse.

By the way http://i25.tinypic.com/wkgveq.jpg

^Is still an obscure fact for you??
DS open this thing only for a fraction of second otherwise the
thing would have sucked up the planet as a side effect.

SoccerBeast010 I hope you know Telekinesis =/= Telepathy

Goku never uses Telekinesis in dragonball, manga, movies or video games. I know because I have a considerable number of games of DBZ

===========================================================================

GodHandTheWorld wrote: According to MikeBUN, Goku’s attacks won’t even be able to work in Bastard!!!. So, pitting him against anyone from it is pointless. If his attacks did work however, well, I’d say he’d be the strongest being next to God.

If only Goku had Musou Tensei, GER, and Za Warudo. :/

go read or watch the frieza saga again mate. as soon as he goes SSJ he toys with him. in the process he learns like 2-3 techniques as well.

soccerbeast010 wrote: go read or watch the frieza saga again mate. as soon as he goes SSJ he toys with him. in the process he learns like 2-3 techniques as well.

He needs way more technique than that.

GodHandTheWorld wrote: According to MikeBUN, Goku’s attacks won’t even be able to work in Bastard!!!. So, pitting him against anyone from it is pointless. If his attacks did work however, well, I’d say he’d be the strongest being next to God.

They can work against the lower tiers.

yea godhand you can tell me when someone in DBZ destroyed a dimension as a side effect. Or destroyed galaxies by just flying around.

Kid Buu blew up a galaxy in the anime.

By the way I recently found that DS can use also a powerful black hole
Can goku fight against that??

What kind of Black Hole?

Well the black hole was like this



DS used it only for one fraction of second.

Belzeebub said that if it was used for more time it would wave easily sucked up the world. O.o

It was like a real black hole that keeps growing and becoming more destructive.

===========================================================================

That’s a big Giran Ira, a technique that Ede Ee uses on a smaller scale.

Speaking of, with speed equal I really don’t see how Goku could beat Ede Ee, with the whole being intangible thing.

GodHandTheWorld wrote: According to MikeBUN, Goku’s attacks won’t even be able to work in Bastard!!!. So, pitting him against anyone from it is pointless. If his attacks did work however, well, I’d say he’d be the strongest being next to God.

How would Dio Brando and Giorno Giovanna do in Bastard!!?

Kira Yoshikage wrote: That’s a big Giran Ira, a technique that Ede Ee uses on a smaller scale.

Speaking of, with speed equal I really don’t see how Goku could beat Ede Ee, with the whole being intangible thing.

Yeah, Ede Ee seems like a Kenshiro on crack. How would you rank Goku in Bastard!!? I know he’s fodder level, but he has to be able to fight someone. :[

Mike8UN wrote: Well the black hole was like this



DS used it only for one fraction of second.

Belzeebub said that if it was used for more time it would wave easily sucked up the world. O.o

It was like a real black hole that keeps growing and becoming more destructive.

Goku would be screwed against that. :[

hmm...high leveled magic vs. a guy who could throw around galaxy busters in the cell saga...push comes to shove... ssj3 goku powers up to full, self destructs and destroys the omniverse.

soccerbeast010 wrote: hmm...high leveled magic vs. a guy who could throw around galaxy busters in the cell saga...push comes to shove... ssj3 goku powers up to full, self destructs and destroys the omniverse.

Well it is mportant to point something
Movies >>Anime>>>>Manga

the self destruct is not going to destroy the univesre pal...

Also I read the manga and watch the anime again
And goku never uses Telekinesis... he uses telepathy to talk with Kaio and ask him to ask shenron to bring everyone back to earth except for him.


In the Anime The only one who is a galaxy buster (not a casual galaxy buster) is Buu.

In bastard!! Satan is a casual galaxy buster :/.
Uriel was in the multigalaxy buster level threat
And DS defeated Uriel. And the manga has not ended.... It is easily expected that DS later is going to defeat Satan. @.@

===========================================================================