Goku in Bastard!!verse

Well In my humble opinion maybe Goku would rank:

1.- God
2.-Satan (probably Luse can be in the second place with satan)
3.- Adan of Light
4.- DS
5.- Fallen Uriel
6.- Luse???'
7.- Miguel
8.-King Demons/Seraphines
9.- The Divine Guardian Fleet of the Central Galaxy
10.- Goku? T-T well it is said that after the second time skip many characters got stronger so who knows...
11.- Other angels and demons

The Angel and Demons could be a good match Against Goku since they are immortal and they have powerful and dangerous techniques even for Goku.

Goku is like at Cherub level.
Goku is stronger than a Cherub, but the Cherubs are faster and they have a great knowledge. Even if they are weaker than Goku probably they can use some strange power to cause problems to Goku.

But even if Goku is much stronger than cherubs and “weak” angels. Even the low class angels would be a problem because of the immortal stuff.


By the way it is important to point that DS has a good half

“Luse of light” Luse is = Lucifer.

Long time ago Lucifer and Satan used to be the closest ones to God. Lucifer was the teacher of the seraphines.
In some way you could say that

Luse(Luficer) an Satan are equals in terms of Powers.


I feel that if DS finds the way to be again one complete being with his other half Luse.... DS could go to the most broken levels. O.o


Abigail one time said that Luse had an energy of over “59 billions of Tera adel haid, With that energy he could create a new complete space. That he was invincible.“

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Mike8UN wrote: Well In my humble opinion maybe Goku would rank:

1.- God
2.-Satan (probably Luse can be in the second place with satan)
3.- Adan of Light
4.- DS
5.- Fallen Uriel
6.- Luse???'
7.- Miguel
8.-King Demons/Seraphines
9.- The Divine Guardian Fleet of the Central Galaxy
10.- Goku? T-T well it is said that after the second time skip many characters got stronger so who knows...
11.- Other angels and demons

The Angel and Demons could be a good match Against Goku since they are immortal and they have powerful and dangerous techniques even for Goku.

Goku is like at Cherub level.
Goku is stronger than a Cherub, but the Cherubs are faster and they have a great knowledge. Even if they are weaker than Goku probably they can use some strange power to cause problems to Goku.

But even if Goku is much stronger than cherubs and “weak” angels. Even the low class angels would be a problem because of the immortal stuff.


By the way it is important to point that DS has a good half

“Luse of light” Luse is = Lucifer.

Long time ago Lucifer and Satan used to be the closest ones to God. Lucifer was the teacher of the seraphines.
In some way you could say that

Luse(Luficer) an Satan are equals in terms of Powers.


I feel that if DS finds the way to be again one complete being with his other half Luse.... DS could go to the most broken levels. O.o


Abigail one time said that Luse had an energy of over “59 billions of Tera adel haid, With that energy he could create a new complete space. That he was invincible.“

I agree. How would Broly and Vegeta do?

Kaoru Hanayama wrote:

Mike8UN wrote: Well In my humble opinion maybe Goku would rank:

1.- God
2.-Satan (probably Luse can be in the second place with satan)
3.- Adan of Light
4.- DS
5.- Fallen Uriel
6.- Luse???'
7.- Miguel
8.-King Demons/Seraphines
9.- The Divine Guardian Fleet of the Central Galaxy
10.- Goku? T-T well it is said that after the second time skip many characters got stronger so who knows...
11.- Other angels and demons

The Angel and Demons could be a good match Against Goku since they are immortal and they have powerful and dangerous techniques even for Goku.

Goku is like at Cherub level.
Goku is stronger than a Cherub, but the Cherubs are faster and they have a great knowledge. Even if they are weaker than Goku probably they can use some strange power to cause problems to Goku.

But even if Goku is much stronger than cherubs and “weak” angels. Even the low class angels would be a problem because of the immortal stuff.


By the way it is important to point that DS has a good half

“Luse of light” Luse is = Lucifer.

Long time ago Lucifer and Satan used to be the closest ones to God. Lucifer was the teacher of the seraphines.
In some way you could say that

Luse(Luficer) an Satan are equals in terms of Powers.


I feel that if DS finds the way to be again one complete being with his other half Luse.... DS could go to the most broken levels. O.o


Abigail one time said that Luse had an energy of over “59 billions of Tera adel haid, With that energy he could create a new complete space. That he was invincible.“

I agree. How would Broly and Vegeta do?

Well Since Broly is stronger than anime version standars.
I would say movie broly would be near with Goku.

Vegeta ..... Maybe around 12 not sure. Since he is the closest one to Goku it should be in 11

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Mike8UN wrote: Vegeta ..... Maybe around 12 not sure. Since he is the closest one to Goku it should be in 11

I agree.

What about Dio Brando and Giorno Giovana?

Kaoru Hanayama wrote:

Mike8UN wrote: Vegeta ..... Maybe around 12 not sure. Since he is the closest one to Goku it should be in 11

I agree.

What about Dio Brando and Giorno Giovana?

mmm not sure probably around Arshes Ney level...
I feel that if they fight Kal Su even before the second time skip they would be in big trouble....

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Mike8UN wrote: Well it is mportant to point something
Movies >>Anime>>>>Manga

Well you never said canon Goku so...Goku from the movies assrapes DS.

Mike8UN wrote: the self destruct is not going to destroy the univesre pal...

it’ll destroy a LOT of galaxies like NOTHING.

Mike8UN wrote: Also I read the manga and watch the anime again
And goku never uses Telekinesis... he uses telepathy to talk with Kaio and ask him to ask shenron to bring everyone back to earth except for him.

Go read/watch Goku vs. Frieza fight...i know the difference between telekinesis and telepathy lol...

Mike8UN wrote: In the Anime The only one who is a galaxy buster (not a casual galaxy buster) is Buu.

no...he did it EASILY. if we go by the movies, LSSJ Broly who is easily weaker than SSJ2 Goku busted a galaxy like nothing and it took his blast only 3 seconds to reach there.

Mike8UN wrote: In bastard!! Satan is a casual galaxy buster :/.
Uriel was in the multigalaxy buster level threat
And DS defeated Uriel. And the manga has not ended.... It is easily expected that DS later is going to defeat Satan. @.@

if DS does beat Satan it’ll be classic PIS. because nobody can really beat satan except maybe god. besides konron made mincemeat outta DS anyways...

soccerbeast010 wrote:

Mike8UN wrote: Well it is mportant to point something
Movies >>Anime>>>>Manga

Well you never said canon Goku so...Goku from the movies assrapes DS.

Mike8UN wrote: the self destruct is not going to destroy the univesre pal...

it’ll destroy a LOT of galaxies like NOTHING.

Mike8UN wrote: Also I read the manga and watch the anime again
And goku never uses Telekinesis... he uses telepathy to talk with Kaio and ask him to ask shenron to bring everyone back to earth except for him.

Go read/watch Goku vs. Frieza fight...i know the difference between telekinesis and telepathy lol...

Mike8UN wrote: In the Anime The only one who is a galaxy buster (not a casual galaxy buster) is Buu.

no...he did it EASILY. if we go by the movies, LSSJ Broly who is easily weaker than SSJ2 Goku busted a galaxy like nothing and it took his blast only 3 seconds to reach there.

Mike8UN wrote: In bastard!! Satan is a casual galaxy buster :/.
Uriel was in the multigalaxy buster level threat
And DS defeated Uriel. And the manga has not ended.... It is easily expected that DS later is going to defeat Satan. @.@

if DS does beat Satan it’ll be classic PIS. because nobody can really beat satan except maybe god. besides konron made mincemeat outta DS anyways...

Pal.... do you know what is a fan speculation???

Goku even in movies can not destroy many galaxies like you say.

Do you also know what is an Hyperbole?? Is someone really going to belive Goku ssj3 would destroy manny galaxies like nothing???


I have watched again already those chapters and the telekinesis thing of Goku never happened.

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soccerbeast010 wrote:

Mike8UN wrote: Well it is mportant to point something
Movies >>Anime>>>>Manga

Well you never said canon Goku so...Goku from the movies assrapes DS.

Mike8UN wrote: the self destruct is not going to destroy the univesre pal...

it’ll destroy a LOT of galaxies like NOTHING.

Mike8UN wrote: Also I read the manga and watch the anime again
And goku never uses Telekinesis... he uses telepathy to talk with Kaio and ask him to ask shenron to bring everyone back to earth except for him.

Go read/watch Goku vs. Frieza fight...i know the difference between telekinesis and telepathy lol...

Mike8UN wrote: In the Anime The only one who is a galaxy buster (not a casual galaxy buster) is Buu.

no...he did it EASILY. if we go by the movies, LSSJ Broly who is easily weaker than SSJ2 Goku busted a galaxy like nothing and it took his blast only 3 seconds to reach there.

Mike8UN wrote: In bastard!! Satan is a casual galaxy buster :/.
Uriel was in the multigalaxy buster level threat
And DS defeated Uriel. And the manga has not ended.... It is easily expected that DS later is going to defeat Satan. @.@

if DS does beat Satan it’ll be classic PIS. because nobody can really beat satan except maybe god. besides konron made mincemeat outta DS anyways...

DS is on a whole nother level than DBZ though. :[

MikeUN wrote: mmm not sure probably around Arshes Ney level...I feel that if they fight Kal Su even before the second time skip they would be in big trouble....

IDK, Giorno has the GER, which is pretty broken. Za Warudo is nothing to scoff at either.

soccerbeast010 wrote: hmm...high leveled magic vs. a guy who could throw around galaxy busters in the cell saga

Is that why everyone was scared when Cell said he was going to blow up the solar system?

Kira Yoshikage wrote:

soccerbeast010 wrote: hmm...high leveled magic vs. a guy who could throw around galaxy busters in the cell saga

Is that why everyone was scared when Cell said he was going to blow up the solar system?

That does not worry me so much as the omniverse destruction thing or Goku destroying many galaxies like nothing in one shot like soccer said earlier.

Sure I like DBZ but this^ what he said .... that is something... well different.

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MikeUN wrote:

Kira Yoshikage wrote:

soccerbeast010 wrote: hmm...high leveled magic vs. a guy who could throw around galaxy busters in the cell saga

Is that why everyone was scared when Cell said he was going to blow up the solar system?

That does not worry me so much as the omniverse destruction thing or Goku destroying many galaxies like nothing in one shot like soccer said earlier.

Sure I like DBZ but this^ what he said .... that is something... well different.

That’s what my reply was about.

Goku can lob around Galaxy busters in the Cell saga yet everyone at the same time is scared of a solar system buster.

So either Goku is billions of times stronger then everyone else or the Galaxy buster thing is bull shit.

I wonder which it it?

Kira Yoshikage wrote:

MikeUN wrote:

Kira Yoshikage wrote:

soccerbeast010 wrote: hmm...high leveled magic vs. a guy who could throw around galaxy busters in the cell saga

Is that why everyone was scared when Cell said he was going to blow up the solar system?

That does not worry me so much as the omniverse destruction thing or Goku destroying many galaxies like nothing in one shot like soccer said earlier.

Sure I like DBZ but this^ what he said .... that is something... well different.

That’s what my reply was about.

Goku can lob around Galaxy busters in the Cell saga yet everyone at the same time is scared of a solar system buster.

So either Goku is billions of times stronger then everyone else or the Galaxy buster thing is bull shit.

I wonder which it it?

I’m not sure of Goku’s a galaxy buster, but they were scared of Cell blowing up the solar system because they can’t breathe in space and w/o the sun, they’d die anyway.

instead of flaming me, use your brains for once. if goku isn’t easily a galaxy buster then DS can’t even destroy a tiny little city. here i’ll break it down for you...

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a farmer + gun gave him a power level of 5 - without a gun i’d say around 1 or 2.

muten roshi with a pitiful pl of 50-100 range blew up the moon without a problem.

in the saiyan saga against vegeta, goku was deflecting blasts that could level the planet like nothing and so was vegeta and this is at a pl of around 5,000-20,000.

frieza blew up BARDOCK, KING VEGETA, all of his own troops and planet vegeta at the same time in 1st form with a casual deathball - signature move just like vegeta has galick gun and piccolo has masenko-ha.

if you don’t think form 4 frieza could bust planets with a death beam, then you’re an idiot. if you don’t think ssj goku with a pl of 15 million could do it...you need to go back to 1st grade.

super perfect cell could bust a solar system easily...sure he got a power boost after regenerating from the self destruct but he also expended HELLA energy to regenerate, IT to earth and fight ssj2 gohan again. now ssj2 gohan who is far weaker than goku/vegeta in ssj2 defeated cell’s blast with ONE HAND and less than half power as well as vaporizing him down to the last atom which is a incredibly tough feat.

ssj3 goku and kid buu were casual galaxy busters in their fight against one another.

i forget exact power levels in the cell saga and the buu saga but goku is always training and near death which equals HUGE power boost. as well as the fact that his base form grows far stronger during each saga. not to mention each level of ssj increases his power EXPONENTIALLY. and i finish by saying that he and vegeta have no limit or upper power level because they’re infinitely growing stronger.

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that was just a show of goku’s power. if you want me to show speed, strength and endurance...tell me anytime and i’ll provide the feats. immortalitity isn’t invincibility and i pity the fool who tries to fight somebody as overpowered as goku. oh...by the way...this is MANGA goku. we already established that GT goku >>> movie goku >> anime goku > manga goku. gf kid.

soccerbeast010 wrote: instead of flaming me, use your brains for once. if goku isn’t easily a galaxy buster then DS can’t even destroy a tiny little city. here i’ll break it down for you...

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a farmer + gun gave him a power level of 5 - without a gun i’d say around 1 or 2.

muten roshi with a pitiful pl of 50-100 range blew up the moon without a problem.

in the saiyan saga against vegeta, goku was deflecting blasts that could level the planet like nothing and so was vegeta and this is at a pl of around 5,000-20,000.

frieza blew up BARDOCK, KING VEGETA, all of his own troops and planet vegeta at the same time in 1st form with a casual deathball - signature move just like vegeta has galick gun and piccolo has masenko-ha.

if you don’t think form 4 frieza could bust planets with a death beam, then you’re an idiot. if you don’t think ssj goku with a pl of 15 million could do it...you need to go back to 1st grade.

super perfect cell could bust a solar system easily...sure he got a power boost after regenerating from the self destruct but he also expended HELLA energy to regenerate, IT to earth and fight ssj2 gohan again. now ssj2 gohan who is far weaker than goku/vegeta in ssj2 defeated cell’s blast with ONE HAND and less than half power as well as vaporizing him down to the last atom which is a incredibly tough feat.

ssj3 goku and kid buu were casual galaxy busters in their fight against one another.

i forget exact power levels in the cell saga and the buu saga but goku is always training and near death which equals HUGE power boost. as well as the fact that his base form grows far stronger during each saga. not to mention each level of ssj increases his power EXPONENTIALLY. and i finish by saying that he and vegeta have no limit or upper power level because they’re infinitely growing stronger.

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that was just a show of goku’s power. if you want me to show speed, strength and endurance...tell me anytime and i’ll provide the feats. immortalitity isn’t invincibility and i pity the fool who tries to fight somebody as overpowered as goku. oh...by the way...this is MANGA goku. we already established that GT goku >>> movie goku >> anime goku > manga goku. gf kid.

We are not flaming you... just realize about that thing of Casual galaxy busters you are saying....

I doubt someone is going to really belive that.

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MikeUN wrote: We are not flaming you... just realize about that thing of Casual galaxy busters you are saying....

I doubt someone is going to really belive that.

you’re really getting desperate. you keep repeating that phrase but it’s all true and you can’t refute it. stop wanking on my posts and actually post a quality reply to validate your point.

soccerbeast010 wrote:

MikeUN wrote: We are not flaming you... just realize about that thing of Casual galaxy busters you are saying....

I doubt someone is going to really belive that.

you’re really getting desperate. you keep repeating that phrase but it’s all true and you can’t refute it. stop wanking on my posts and actually post a quality reply to validate your point.

Actually you do not have a scan or something where someone proves to destroy many galaxies at the same time pal :/
It is the same with telekinesis stuff.


The max thing you ever see in dragonball is galaxy gradual distruction.

I love dbz, bastard!! was ok but I prefer by far dbz

If you do not belive me:

http://www.mcanime.net/foro/viewtopic.php?t=142235&sid=60

I have all playstation 2 and one video games . Also the ones from wii. I do not have sagas.

But I also have games for SNES..... I am sure the games I have for SNES are super hard to get now this days.


There are no casual galaxy busters or that kind of things in DBZ.


If you read bastard!!
you will know also about bloodstone


Even stronger opponents are put in the same level because of the bloodstone effect.


The bloodstone mirrors all damage.

And DS has the advantage that is immortal.


So even if you use Gogeta ssj4 he would end losing because of the bloodstone thing.

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soccerbeast010 wrote: use your brains for once.

You first.

Kaoru Hanayama wrote:

Kira Yoshikage wrote:

MikeUN wrote:

Kira Yoshikage wrote:

soccerbeast010 wrote: hmm...high leveled magic vs. a guy who could throw around galaxy busters in the cell saga

Is that why everyone was scared when Cell said he was going to blow up the solar system?

That does not worry me so much as the omniverse destruction thing or Goku destroying many galaxies like nothing in one shot like soccer said earlier.

Sure I like DBZ but this^ what he said .... that is something... well different.

That’s what my reply was about.

Goku can lob around Galaxy busters in the Cell saga yet everyone at the same time is scared of a solar system buster.

So either Goku is billions of times stronger then everyone else or the Galaxy buster thing is bull shit.

I wonder which it it?

I’m not sure of Goku’s a galaxy buster, but they were scared of Cell blowing up the solar system because they can’t breathe in space and w/o the sun, they’d die anyway.

facepalm.jpg

It’s called sarcasm.

soccerbeast010 wrote: instead of flaming me, use your brains for once. if goku isn’t easily a galaxy buster then DS can’t even destroy a tiny little city.

Except for the fact he defeated a multi-galaxy buster. Fail less please.

super perfect cell could bust a solar system easily

Lol no.

ssj3 goku and kid buu were casual galaxy busters in their fight against one another.

Do you have even a shred of proof to back this?

i forget exact power levels in the cell saga and the buu saga

That’s because there is none. The last powerlevel shown was when Trunks fought Frezias goon squad and suppressed his powerlevel to 5.

not to mention each level of ssj increases his power EXPONENTIALLY.

50 times for SSJ1, 2 times that for SSJ2 and 4 times that for SSJ3. Cannon from Toriyama.

immortalitity isn’t invincibility

True, but Dispell Bound does make him invincible to anyone from Dragon Ball.

this is MANGA goku.

Of course it is as the manga is cannon.

we already established that GT goku >>>

GT isn’t cannon.

movie goku >>

Nor are the movies.

anime goku >

Nor is the anime.

gf kid.

Look at you acting all cocky when you’ve proven nothing.

lol By the way Kira sometime I heard that dispell bound was around 200 nuke level shields

But I understand with judas pain the dispell bound gets a power up of crazy levels

How powerful would be the dispell bound during the fight vs fallen uriel??


Actually if you can educate me better of dispell bound would be nice.

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