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06 Nov 2009 01:55 am
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MikeUN wrote: lol By the way Kira sometime I heard that dispell bound was around 200 nuke level shields

Sorta true, they take a nuke level to break but when one is broken it absorbs all the rest of the attack nullifying it.

Of course it won’t stop any level of attack, to keep it form becoming a no-limits fallacy we say it can take up to multi-galaxy busting level as that’s the level of the strongest opponent shown so far.

But I understand with judas pain the dispell bound gets a power up of crazy levels

Let’s put it this way, without the Judas Pain DS was a planetary level threat, with it he’s galaxy level. Same level of increase for his Dispell Bound.

How powerful would be the dispell bound during the fight vs fallen uriel??

Base Fallen Uriel is a galaxy buster, with his Augoedious form he’s can take out roughly 11 galaxy’s in one shot.

Now I’m not saying Uriel was throwing around galaxy busters like candy in the fight but to be able to stay alive in those kinda fights it has to be at least galaxy level.

Actually if you can educate me better of dispell bound would be nice. smiley


Dispell Bounds shields regen at easily FTL speeds and they protect against time travel, reality warping, and losing to name a few of it’s abilities.

To put it simply, Dispell Bound is really fucking broken.


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Kira Yoshikage wrote:

MikeUN wrote: lol By the way Kira sometime I heard that dispell bound was around 200 nuke level shields

Sorta true, they take a nuke level to break but when one is broken it absorbs all the rest of the attack nullifying it.

Of course it won’t stop any level of attack, to keep it form becoming a no-limits fallacy we say it can take up to multi-galaxy busting level as that’s the level of the strongest opponent shown so far.

But I understand with judas pain the dispell bound gets a power up of crazy levels

Let’s put it this way, without the Judas Pain DS was a planetary level threat, with it he’s galaxy level. Same level of increase for his Dispell Bound.

How powerful would be the dispell bound during the fight vs fallen uriel??

Base Fallen Uriel is a galaxy buster, with his Augoedious form he’s can take out roughly 11 galaxy’s in one shot.

Now I’m not saying Uriel was throwing around galaxy busters like candy in the fight but to be able to stay alive in those kinda fights it has to be at least galaxy level.

Actually if you can educate me better of dispell bound would be nice. smiley


Dispell Bounds shields regen at easily FTL speeds and they protect against time travel, reality warping, and losing to name a few of it’s abilities.

To put it simply, Dispell Bound is really fucking broken.




O I see, thanks you are very cool dude smiley, we need more like you in the MvC. You know very well many series.

Also not to mention that you have very good arguments and logic. Somehow this last days the number of people that wanks to no limit characters has increased.

I think it is not hard to notice.


Thanks a lot I hope we can keep in contact.


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06 Nov 2009 12:09 pm
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Kira Yoshikage wrote: facepalm.jpg

It’s called sarcasm.



Oh yeah.

BTW, do you know where I can find the Bastard!! manga? One Manga.com doesn’t have the new version, and I’m trying to find the new one since I think the artwork is badass.

Kira Yoshikage wrote: Of course it won’t stop any level of attack, to keep it form becoming a no-limits fallacy we say it can take up to multi-galaxy busting level as that’s the level of the strongest opponent shown so far.



I see.

Let’s put it this way, without the Judas Pain DS was a planetary level threat, with it he’s galaxy level. Same level of increase for his Dispell Bound.



That’s power.

Now I’m not saying Uriel was throwing around galaxy busters like candy in the fight but to be able to stay alive in those kinda fights it has to be at least galaxy level.



So, no one in DB stands a chance against Uriel then. :[

To put it simply, Dispell Bound is really fucking broken.



Is it as broken as GER?


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Yea look at this:

Each of those spikes is the size of a large car and they absorb or dissolve everything around them (including heat, air and light) while moving randomly at extremely high speeds. Their power reaches so far as to negate even space, even drawing the Seraphim closer into the storm without exposing them directly to any form of force simply by consuming the existing space around them.
There are billions of these black hole particles and they could potentially erradicate entire quadrants in the universe as Uriel’s power grew on.


Other broken powers are:
'Hellrider' and the 'Jawbreaker' ability.

Jawbreaker was actually designed as a dimension-leaping device for movement between the dimensions via means of break-through (it is most likely this what Beelzebub referred to earlier in the fight when DS used the Giran Ira on Uriel). It becomes visible in the form of two dagger-shaped energy beams opening out from underneath the mouths of the dragon heads which also spawn the Light Wings.

Dark Schneider activates them only for 0.1 second but that is more than enough to break the assault of Uriel’s black hole storm which simply is shattered into nothingness as the DKL opens a dimensional rift in front of him.




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Damn, those power are broken. o_O


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I like how nobody’s ever been able to prove that DS operates on Galaxy destroying levels in this topic, yet that term is always thrown around.


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I’m just going to need to wait until Bastard!! is properly translated and then just read it for myself. Ignorance is never fun. ]:


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Ravishing Moses Rude wrote: I like how nobody’s ever been able to prove that DS operates on Galaxy destroying levels in this topic, yet that term is always thrown around.



I haven’t read much about Bastard!!, which is why I opened this topic. I’m not so sure the extent of DS’s powers either tbqh.

GodHandTheWorld wrote: I’m just going to need to wait until Bastard!! is properly translated and then just read it for myself. Ignorance is never fun. ]:



I think Giorno Giovanna can do quite well in Bastard!!. He does have Gold Experience Requiem. GER’s so broken as hell. >:]


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DS is in galaxy buster level becasue:

1) Satan is casual galaxy buster. He just needs to fly to crush galaxies.
2) Michael defeated Satan in the past.
3) Manga notes and databook.
4) Michael who defeated Satan in the past said that Uriel was much stronger than her and seraphines. Also she pointed that Uriel had the power to destroy the galaxy.
6) DS defeated Uriel who was multigalaxy threat. (Uriel grew 17 times in size and 130 times in power)
7) It is your word against the evidence and the words of the author who has already proven that Bastard!! verse has beings with the power to destroy galaxies.


It is also important to point that Satan and Lucifer are the closest beings to God and they are considered as equals. DS in other words has the potential to grow powerful enought to defeat Satan.

The difference is that by now
-Satan is a casual galaxy buster.
-DS is a galaxy threat but not a casual one like Satan.

But as I said DS surely has the potential to grow powerful enought to beat up Satan.


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Kaoru Hanayama wrote:

Kira Yoshikage wrote: facepalm.jpg

It’s called sarcasm.



Oh yeah.

BTW, do you know where I can find the Bastard!! manga? One Manga.com doesn’t have the new version, and I’m trying to find the new one since I think the artwork is badass.

Translated chapters http://www.mangatraders.com/manga/series/154

Raws http://mangahelpers.com/m/bastard/raws/

Is it as broken as GER?

They are pretty close to even.

MikeUN wrote: DS is in galaxy buster level becasue:

1) Satan is casual galaxy buster. He just needs to fly to crush galaxies.
2) Michael defeated Satan in the past.
3) Manga notes and databook.
4) Michael who defeated Satan in the past said that Uriel was much stronger than her and seraphines. Also she pointed that Uriel had the power to destroy the galaxy.
6) DS defeated Uriel who was multigalaxy threat. (Uriel grew 17 times in size and 130 times in power)
7) It is your word against the evidence and the words of the author who has already proven that Bastard!! verse has beings with the power to destroy galaxies.


It is also important to point that Satan and Lucifer are the closest beings to God and they are considered as equals. DS in other words has the potential to grow powerful enought to defeat Satan.

The difference is that by now
-Satan is a casual galaxy buster.
-DS is a galaxy threat but not a casual one like Satan.

But as I said DS surely has the potential to grow powerful enought to beat up Satan.


This man understands.


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Kira one doubt....

Does not this image suggest that DS is near omniscient level?

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/read-online/42246/14?t=1257554609


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MikeUN wrote: Kira one doubt....

Does not this image suggest that DS is near omniscient level?

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/read-online/42246/14?t=1257554609


I do believe that’s just Uriel’s memories.


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Kira Yoshikage wrote:

MikeUN wrote: Kira one doubt....

Does not this image suggest that DS is near omniscient level?

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/read-online/42246/14?t=1257554609


I do believe that’s just Uriel’s memories.


Ok I see. When he recreated Amrael I thought he was using some power to see and learn something he never actually saw.

Sorry terrible confusion.


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