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[Quote] #41
04 Jul 2009 06:39 pm
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heavenly king wrote:
Krom Shade wrote: no his ability isn’t durabity depend seening as he forces it OUTSIDE OF the Person. Durabity can protect your outsides but not your insides.



damn these dudes don’t no what durability is. krom you’re right again

Man you’re both fucking retarded, not all superheroes' durability are dependent on their shell. Superman’s cells are extremely durable, so it doesn’t matter if you penetrate him with a nuke.

Same goes for Frûiza, when his tail got cut-off that stump didn’t become his weak-spot because it was directly linked to his insides.

does frieza have the same body structures as Goku?

Let me put this in ways you could understand.

Goku had a lot of open wounds at some points in the story, those wounds when hit by a beam of energy say Frûiza’s death beam didn’t seem to have any greater effect as opposed to hitting his skin.

In other words his internal system was directly exposed to energy that clove Namek apart in the early fight between Goku and Frûiza.
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04 Jul 2009 06:41 pm
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AfroSamurai wrote:
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heavenly king wrote: and you don’t think so i’ll post his respect thread and you’ll see what i am talking about

Fail. The respect threads does not portray the basis of the character’s power, they take ever high-end inconsistent feat and treat them as the base of their powers.

Not even in your scans does it say that Magneto reacts faster than light. If you have any scan that does, please post it.



you want to take a look for your self and come back to me on this one. what’s his name again MAGNETO right. first off goku isn’t light speed second magus doesn’t need to fight him at high speeds to beat him. he has a number of ways to beat goku. before he can do any type of damage

Goku is actually lightspeed because of the Super Sayien 50X rule and that he dodged lightning which is is half Lightspeed
oh that changes everything but Indalacio told me in another topic that there was prove of this.
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04 Jul 2009 06:42 pm
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Mirai Torankusu wrote:
Krom Shade wrote:
Mirai Torankusu wrote:
heavenly king wrote:
Krom Shade wrote: no his ability isn’t durabity depend seening as he forces it OUTSIDE OF the Person. Durabity can protect your outsides but not your insides.



damn these dudes don’t no what durability is. krom you’re right again

Man you’re both fucking retarded, not all superheroes' durability are dependent on their shell. Superman’s cells are extremely durable, so it doesn’t matter if you penetrate him with a nuke.

Same goes for Frûiza, when his tail got cut-off that stump didn’t become his weak-spot because it was directly linked to his insides.

does frieza have the same body structures as Goku?

Let me put this in ways you could understand.

Goku had a lot of open wounds at some points in the story, those wounds when hit by a beam of energy say Frûiza’s death beam didn’t seem to have any greater effect as opposed to hitting his skin.

In other words his internal system was directly exposed to energy that clove Namek apart in the early fight between Goku and Frûiza.

you know magneto can focus on different spots
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[Quote] #44
04 Jul 2009 06:43 pm
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Goku is not faster than light and neither is Magneto.
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04 Jul 2009 06:45 pm
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AfroSamurai wrote:
heavenly king wrote:
Mirai Torankusu wrote:
heavenly king wrote: and you don’t think so i’ll post his respect thread and you’ll see what i am talking about

Fail. The respect threads does not portray the basis of the character’s power, they take ever high-end inconsistent feat and treat them as the base of their powers.

Not even in your scans does it say that Magneto reacts faster than light. If you have any scan that does, please post it.



you want to take a look for your self and come back to me on this one. what’s his name again MAGNETO right. first off goku isn’t light speed second magus doesn’t need to fight him at high speeds to beat him. he has a number of ways to beat goku. before he can do any type of damage

Goku is actually lightspeed because of the Super Sayien 50X rule and that he dodged lightning which is is half Lightspeed



so me the proof that he’s light speed. the only way he’s light speed i am using the marvel bio is be cuz he has the instant transmission { it is light speed } but other him moving his fist and body at light speed no.
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04 Jul 2009 06:45 pm
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Krom Shade wrote:
you know magneto can focus on different spots

On which spot is he going to “focus” when Goku has blood running through every vein in his body? That is if Goku would let him.
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04 Jul 2009 06:47 pm
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Speaking of proof, where’s the proof for Magneto reacting faster then light?
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AfroSamurai wrote:
heavenly king wrote:
Mirai Torankusu wrote:
heavenly king wrote: and you don’t think so i’ll post his respect thread and you’ll see what i am talking about

Fail. The respect threads does not portray the basis of the character’s power, they take ever high-end inconsistent feat and treat them as the base of their powers.

Not even in your scans does it say that Magneto reacts faster than light. If you have any scan that does, please post it.



you want to take a look for your self and come back to me on this one. what’s his name again MAGNETO right. first off goku isn’t light speed second magus doesn’t need to fight him at high speeds to beat him. he has a number of ways to beat goku. before he can do any type of damage

Goku is actually lightspeed because of the Super Sayien 50X rule and that he dodged lightning which is is half Lightspeed


spider man has done the same thing does that mean he’s light speed
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Mirai Torankusu wrote:
Krom Shade wrote:
you know magneto can focus on different spots

On which spot is he going to “focus” when Goku has blood running through every vein in his body? That is if Goku would let him.



goku doesn’t have to let him do it. magneto would just do it to him and theirs nothing goku can do about it
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Mirai Torankusu wrote: Speaking of proof, where’s the proof for Magneto reacting faster then light?



he doesn’t need to
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04 Jul 2009 06:49 pm
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Goku never dodged lightning in the manga, furthmore that was magic lightning in the anime.
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Mirai Torankusu wrote:
Krom Shade wrote:
you know magneto can focus on different spots

On which spot is he going to “focus” when Goku has blood running through every vein in his body? That is if Goku would let him.

his brain cell
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04 Jul 2009 06:50 pm
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storms lightning
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04 Jul 2009 06:53 pm
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krom do you want to start it off with scans. damn magneto go a shit load of scans.
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[Quote] #55
04 Jul 2009 06:55 pm
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heavenly king wrote:
Mirai Torankusu wrote: Speaking of proof, where’s the proof for Magneto reacting faster then light?



he doesn’t need to

Typical comic-tard argument “He doesn’t need proof!".

Krom Shade wrote:
Mirai Torankusu wrote:
Krom Shade wrote:
you know magneto can focus on different spots

On which spot is he going to “focus” when Goku has blood running through every vein in his body? That is if Goku would let him.

his brain cell

Except that the brain cells themselves doesn’t contain iron, unless you mean that he’s use the blood in his brain to scrunch them which would essentially do shit to Goku considering his durability. He tanked a nuke-like blast with an explosion radius of an island as a teen.
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04 Jul 2009 06:56 pm
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his lighntning control is better

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04 Jul 2009 06:59 pm
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heavenly king wrote: spider man has done the same thing does that mean he’s light speed

Spiderman has his 'spider sense”, that tells him ahead of time that hes in danger if he stays in that spot.

I posted this a long time ago.
Gplex wrote: Goku as a kid could dodge bullets. Bullets move faster than sound. Speed of sound at sea level = 340.29 m/s. PIC1
So at this point he could move faster than 340m/s (At this point Goku cannot run at this speed only move over short distances at this speed) As he can only run 100m in 8.5 seconds. PIC2
This is when he first met Krillin. At the first tournament Krillin could follow Goku’s movements. At the second Krillin couldn’t see him move so he had to be at least 60 times faster. (Actually Goku was jumping back and forward so fast that he went invisible so he would be much more then 60x faster)
Now Tein was able to follow Goku movements. At the next tournament, Goku move so fast that Tein couldn’t even see him. So again he must be around 60 times faster. So we have 340x60x60 = 1224000m/s which is around 0.4% of the speed of light. Not taking in account Teins increase in speed.
Now Goku had a power level of 416. When he got back from training he had a power level of 8000. So he’s 19.23 times faster. (actually he’s 90x faster because he cross snake way 90 times faster than he originally did - took 6 months one way 2 days the other (30*6)/2=90).
Next he gets to 180000, increasing his speed by 36 folds. (Where he would be much quicker) When Goku gets to Namic his speed is ((1224000*19.23*36=847350720)/299792458 = 2.83) 2.83 times the speed of light (absolute minimum, because as we just saw, I could have used the 90 times, instead of 19.23, I didn’t take in account for Teins speed increase)
I would like to point out that he could easily do 20x Kaioken when he got too Namic, and even higher if he wanted too. So if Goku could turn ssj1 when he got to Namic he would be over 100x faster than light. You can just imagine how fast he would be when he is fighting Cell or even Buu at ssj3.



Gplex wrote: This explosion from Piccol is far more powerful then a nuke (the entire city was either blown away or vaporized) - This was way back in Dragon ball (not part of z).



I just don’t see magneto standing up to energy attacks more powerful than a nuke.
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Gplex wrote:
heavenly king wrote: spider man has done the same thing does that mean he’s light speed

Spiderman has his 'spider sense”, that tells him ahead of time that hes in danger if he stays in that spot.

I posted this a long time ago.
Gplex wrote: Goku as a kid could dodge bullets. Bullets move faster than sound. Speed of sound at sea level = 340.29 m/s. PIC1
So at this point he could move faster than 340m/s (At this point Goku cannot run at this speed only move over short distances at this speed) As he can only run 100m in 8.5 seconds. PIC2
This is when he first met Krillin. At the first tournament Krillin could follow Goku’s movements. At the second Krillin couldn’t see him move so he had to be at least 60 times faster. (Actually Goku was jumping back and forward so fast that he went invisible so he would be much more then 60x faster)
Now Tein was able to follow Goku movements. At the next tournament, Goku move so fast that Tein couldn’t even see him. So again he must be around 60 times faster. So we have 340x60x60 = 1224000m/s which is around 0.4% of the speed of light. Not taking in account Teins increase in speed.
Now Goku had a power level of 416. When he got back from training he had a power level of 8000. So he’s 19.23 times faster. (actually he’s 90x faster because he cross snake way 90 times faster than he originally did - took 6 months one way 2 days the other (30*6)/2=90).
Next he gets to 180000, increasing his speed by 36 folds. (Where he would be much quicker) When Goku gets to Namic his speed is ((1224000*19.23*36=847350720)/299792458 = 2.83) 2.83 times the speed of light (absolute minimum, because as we just saw, I could have used the 90 times, instead of 19.23, I didn’t take in account for Teins speed increase)
I would like to point out that he could easily do 20x Kaioken when he got too Namic, and even higher if he wanted too. So if Goku could turn ssj1 when he got to Namic he would be over 100x faster than light. You can just imagine how fast he would be when he is fighting Cell or even Buu at ssj3.



Gplex wrote: This explosion from Piccol is far more powerful then a nuke (the entire city was either blown away or vaporized) - This was way back in Dragon ball (not part of z).



I just don’t see magneto standing up to energy attacks more powerful than a nuke.




you’re right he doesn’t but think about it how fast he has to be to move out of the way of it
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04 Jul 2009 07:05 pm
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i concede to goku until some new issues come out.
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his shields can take that
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