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The Hulk is arguably the most powerful superhero with his unlimited and growing power and super strength and resilience. However, how would he fare against the banner bearer of DBZ-Goku!!!

SSJ Goku can take on the Hulk but as the Hulk grows stronger, Goku would have to go full-power SSJ and go SSJ2 to finish him off.

The Hulk would then go into his uber form (Grey?) and Goku’d have to go SSJ3!

I think Goku would win in his SSJ3 form AS SSJ4 DOESN’T COUNT BECAUSE GT DOESN’T EXIST!

Why? Here are a few reasons:

-Super strength
-Super speed-Raditz at a power level just over 1000 can travel faster than the speed of light; Goku is MUCH more powerful than Raditz. Not to mention Goku can travel faster than his max speed through instant transmission/translocation
-Goku can destroy the Earth without even thinking that’s even a possibility e.g. when he’s charging up to his ultimate power level!

Defeating Frieza who effortlessly destroys planet Vegeta while in his first form
Almost blowing up the Earth when shooting Cell point-blank with a Kamahameha

-Ability to move through dimensions
-Martial arts skills
-Being stronger than most of the Gods;well,certainly stronger than one of the surviving major Gods-East Kaioshin.
-Defeating the ultimate evil of Majin Buu on numerous occasions e.g. beating the **** outta Fat Evil Buu, smacking around Ultimate Buu, being on par with Kid Buu.
-Having his (then) weaker son be on par with the Devil (Dabura).

Not to mention the more a character relies on strength (Ultra SSJ Trunks or Power Weighted Cell), the slower they get.

Plus it’s been shown in DBZ that characters with a static power level (Android 17) can be beaten if the fight ends quick enough (like when Piccolo almost beat him and the match ended in a stalemate).


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WHAT THE FUCK R U THAT RETARDED

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ronki23 wrote: The Hulk is arguably the most powerful superhero with his unlimited and growing power and super strength and resilience. However, how would he fare against the banner bearer of DBZ-Goku!!!

SSJ Goku can take on the Hulk but as the Hulk grows stronger, Goku would have to go full-power SSJ and go SSJ2 to finish him off.

The Hulk would then go into his uber form (Grey?) and Goku’d have to go SSJ3!

I think Goku would win in his SSJ3 form AS SSJ4 DOESN’T COUNT BECAUSE GT DOESN’T EXIST!

Why? Here are a few reasons:

-Super strength
-Super speed-Raditz at a power level just over 1000 can travel faster than the speed of light; Goku is MUCH more powerful than Raditz. Not to mention Goku can travel faster than his max speed through instant transmission/translocation
-Goku can destroy the Earth without even thinking that’s even a possibility e.g. when he’s charging up to his ultimate power level!

Defeating Frieza who effortlessly destroys planet Vegeta while in his first form
Almost blowing up the Earth when shooting Cell point-blank with a Kamahameha

-Ability to move through dimensions
-Martial arts skills
-Being stronger than most of the Gods;well,certainly stronger than one of the surviving major Gods-East Kaioshin.
-Defeating the ultimate evil of Majin Buu on numerous occasions e.g. beating the **** outta Fat Evil Buu, smacking around Ultimate Buu, being on par with Kid Buu.
-Having his (then) weaker son be on par with the Devil (Dabura).

Not to mention the more a character relies on strength (Ultra SSJ Trunks or Power Weighted Cell), the slower they get.

Plus it’s been shown in DBZ that characters with a static power level (Android 17) can be beaten if the fight ends quick enough (like when Piccolo almost beat him and the match ended in a stalemate).



ok firstly the raditz light speed thing is a translation mistake , this is NOT said in the manga or the japense version ,they never reach light speed in dbz , they get close at the very end at full power maybe , theoreticly , like 60-80 thousand mach maybe , but light speed is 90 thousand + . Hulk is physically much stronger then any dbz character ever gets , normal green hulk has lifted 150 billion tons. World War Hulk can theoreticly destroy a planet through physical blows , hes already been shown to be strong enough to survive in the planet core and pull/push tectonic plates around. Plus he can survive in space for a very very very long time , like days or weeks. Plus hulk regenerates at a MASSIVE degree. Hulk cant fly but he can jump into the outer atmosphere and cross continental , and has been shown to move as fast as top tier marvel characters such as the norse god Thor. Maybe goku could hit him with a big enough ki blast to kill him or knock him down to bruce banner state (however WWH has shrugged off a nova blast from human torch , this blast can be as hot as 1 million degrees , the surface of the sun is only 50,000 ) , but he would need to go all out right from the start , the longer the fight went the less chance goku would have , take too long and hulk would overpower him. As hulks strength has no measurable limits. Hulks stamina and durability is nearly limitless , as is his strength , goku would be very hard pressed to win this. The only way is complete overkill right from the start before hulk can catch his stride , i think goku could feasibly beat anything below world war hulk power , maybe , as it would be very hard for hulk to fight someone who can move so fast and fly and teleport and who can attack from range. So because of his movement advantages il say GOKU ftw , but only just and only if he does it quick.


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I think we’d assume they go past lightspeed in DBZ anyway.

Anyone over 1000 is over lightspeed imo as they vanish on DBZ and only ki senses can “see” them. This is shown when the Z fighters take on the Saibamen.

Not to mention anything SSJ3 and over rips holes in dimensions e.g. SSJ3 Gotenks and Super Buu.

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ronki23 wrote: I think we’d assume they go past lightspeed in DBZ anyway.

Anyone over 1000 is over lightspeed imo as they vanish on DBZ and only ki senses can “see” them. This is shown when the Z fighters take on the Saibamen.

Not to mention anything SSJ3 and over rips holes in dimensions e.g. SSJ3 Gotenks and Super Buu.



no , they dont go past lightspeed , certainly not on a measly 1000 power lvl , if they could move at lightspeed then gokus instant transmission would be a waste of time , light speed is pretty much INSTANT movement. NOONE in dbz moves at lightspeed , it takes them at least a few minutes to fly across the country thats very very high speed yes , but still a long long way off lightspeed. Plus the hole ripping stuff is not got anything to do with their movement , its due to the high concentration of energy in one spot which causes time/space fluctuations.


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truestrength wrote:

ronki23 wrote: I think we’d assume they go past lightspeed in DBZ anyway.

Anyone over 1000 is over lightspeed imo as they vanish on DBZ and only ki senses can “see” them. This is shown when the Z fighters take on the Saibamen.

Not to mention anything SSJ3 and over rips holes in dimensions e.g. SSJ3 Gotenks and Super Buu.



no , they dont go past lightspeed , certainly not on a measly 1000 power lvl , if they could move at lightspeed then gokus instant transmission would be a waste of time , light speed is pretty much INSTANT movement. NOONE in dbz moves at lightspeed , it takes them at least a few minutes to fly across the country thats very very high speed yes , but still a long long way off lightspeed. Plus the hole ripping stuff is not got anything to do with their movement , its due to the high concentration of energy in one spot which causes time/space fluctuations.




They draw out the minutes in DBZ you know e.g. 5 minutes battle with Frieza and Goku.

Also, instant transmission is either post-lightspeed or lightspeed x Z fighter speed-hence the reason Goku going all the way to the other end of the galaxy/another dimension.

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ronki23 wrote:

truestrength wrote:

ronki23 wrote: I think we’d assume they go past lightspeed in DBZ anyway.

Anyone over 1000 is over lightspeed imo as they vanish on DBZ and only ki senses can “see” them. This is shown when the Z fighters take on the Saibamen.

Not to mention anything SSJ3 and over rips holes in dimensions e.g. SSJ3 Gotenks and Super Buu.



no , they dont go past lightspeed , certainly not on a measly 1000 power lvl , if they could move at lightspeed then gokus instant transmission would be a waste of time , light speed is pretty much INSTANT movement. NOONE in dbz moves at lightspeed , it takes them at least a few minutes to fly across the country thats very very high speed yes , but still a long long way off lightspeed. Plus the hole ripping stuff is not got anything to do with their movement , its due to the high concentration of energy in one spot which causes time/space fluctuations.




They draw out the minutes in DBZ you know e.g. 5 minutes battle with Frieza and Goku.

Also, instant transmission is either post-lightspeed or lightspeed x Z fighter speed-hence the reason Goku going all the way to the other end of the galaxy/another dimension.



no no no , if what your saying is true then why did it take time for goku to travel along snake way?? and to get there in time from the check in station to get to where the z-fighters were fighting vegeta and nappa??!! If he was capable of lightspeed travel with only 1000 power ( at which point in time he had around 9000 )then he would have got there in a second. which he did not. your greatly overestimating their speed. just because they are moving too fast for the eyes to keep up does not mean they are moving at light speed. dont you see how retarded that is? if they had reached light speed by early dbz , and goku has 20 million at ssj1 ( official power reading from dbz creator ) then just think how fast they would be moving , and if that was the case what about at ssj2 or 3?? they would be millions of times faster then light by your reasoning , thats ludicrous , and obviously not the case. Also Instant transmission is not really movement , its teleportation. The basic process is that he breaks down into light particles in order to achieve light speed type distance movement then reforms at his destination. IT is not actually super-speed as he his not really himself when he uses this technique.


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Goku points a finger at Hulk.

Hulk dies.


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I’m leaning toward The Hulk in this fight.Goku will be able to get some good hits on the Hulk but I don’t see Goku winning.The Hulk and his healing factor is going to be a big problem for Goku.Plus the Hulk almost Godlike durability is also going to be a problem.And What attack can Goku use that can bring The Hulk down? because I doubt a simple Kamehameha is going bring the Hulk down.


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Goku rapes.


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16 Aug 2009 05:22 pm
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Hulk punches goku. The end.

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Thunderclap ftw.


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Hulk’s speed is shit. He can’t even keep up with Goku let alone punch him. He got torn up by a nuke.

Goku nukes him, a couple thousand times, each one the size of a few continents.

Goku wins.


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Hulk isn’t as slow as most people think but of course he doesn’t fight at DBZ speed. With speed equalized and using WB Hulk instead of regular Hulk then this would be better.


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His greatest speed feat was jumping to catch a missile and releasing the hostage strapped to it before it detonated.

That’s like, garbage to Dragonball. People make such a big deal about speed when it’s something like Goku versus Superman. But when it’s Hulk versus Goku, speed suddenly means nothing at all. Biased much?

And again, Goku nukes him constantly until he dies. He has the power to do it, he has the energy to do it, he has the speed to do it.


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Hulk has caught bullets before with his teeth. =)


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Hulk has also caught my cock between his teeth before. Hurt like a motherfucker. Told him to use his tongue.


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Tyrant wrote: Hulk has also caught my cock between his teeth before. Hurt like a motherfucker. Told him to use his tongue.


That’s cool.


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Tyrant wrote: Hulk has also caught my cock between his teeth before. Hurt like a motherfucker. Told him to use his tongue.


LOL.


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Hulk would fuck Goku up

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