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pakl123456 wrote:

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Slayer wrote: MvC, I thought we have already discussed this like a million times.

Cell is obviously stronger.



i have them equals but what makes you think cell is stronger?

I don’t think that they are in equall level, unless you mean Perfect Cell before he became super.

As I said in LLK reply, Cell knows more techiques that could put down Broly and been pwning fighter stronger than in the 8 movie.

Also, movie 10 isn’t stronger than movie 8 since he never had time for his zenkai.



movie10 broly is massively stronger than movie 8 broly it was stated in broly’s design and in the movie when gohan said broly is a bad a monster as ever movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adult gohan and i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 yet perfet cell has to go all out vs movie 8 broly FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell
base bojack is obviously perfect cell’s level maybe a bit weaker and he was stated to be stronger than movie 8 broly

the z fighters actually were cell games level in the ova since toei copied the facts from the cell games to the ova

Like I said, Broly didn’t have time for zenka and still had that scar from Goku. If you are seriously saying that a characters statement > Logic that is set in the verse.

Also, when did Cell ever go against Broly in any of the movies? Movie 8 doesn’t even in the same timeline, it’s on a alternative time line where Piccolo beat Cell in their first encounter.

Bojack got one shoted by SSJ2 Gohan, Cell might be on the same level as Bojack but not SPC.

@Edit: Raw power? Cell took on stronger fighter than what movie 8 and 10 had to offer.


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buff cell was weaker than gohan since gohan owned him with two kicks besides cell has regen proves he has more abillities and i am talking about raw power broly gets a zenkai and gets stronger as well

movie 10 broly>ssj2 adult gohan

movie 10 broly is equal or a bit stronger than SPC



nope. It’s been stated several times that dai san dankai gives much more power and strength, but who uses it gets slower.
Trunks was even more powerful than perfect cell, just to let you know how much of a difference in power there is between base SSJ and dai san dankai.
But dai ni dankai increases power, strength, speed and durability (vegeta as a ssj was weaker than 18 but when he used dai ni dankai he was more powerful than cell in his second form)
Also broly has zenkai, but it’s useless if he can’t be healed. that’s why cell has a better zenkai, because he can heal himself, even when he’s blown to pieces, while if you blow away broly’s head the fight is over.


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Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

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pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote: MvC, I thought we have already discussed this like a million times.

Cell is obviously stronger.



i have them equals but what makes you think cell is stronger?

I don’t think that they are in equall level, unless you mean Perfect Cell before he became super.

As I said in LLK reply, Cell knows more techiques that could put down Broly and been pwning fighter stronger than in the 8 movie.

Also, movie 10 isn’t stronger than movie 8 since he never had time for his zenkai.



movie10 broly is massively stronger than movie 8 broly it was stated in broly’s design and in the movie when gohan said broly is a bad a monster as ever movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adult gohan and i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 yet perfet cell has to go all out vs movie 8 broly FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell
base bojack is obviously perfect cell’s level maybe a bit weaker and he was stated to be stronger than movie 8 broly

the z fighters actually were cell games level in the ova since toei copied the facts from the cell games to the ova

Like I said, Broly didn’t have time for zenka and still had that scar from Goku. If you are seriously saying that a characters statement > Logic that is set in the verse.

Also, when did Cell ever go against Broly in any of the movies? Movie 8 doesn’t even in the same timeline, it’s on a alternative time line where Piccolo beat Cell in their first encounter.

Bojack got one shoted by SSJ2 Gohan, Cell might be on the same level as Bojack but not SPC.

@Edit: Raw power? Cell took on stronger fighter than what movie 8 and 10 had to offer.



I am sayiin statements from the movie and the design prove you wrong the design states broly’s power increased and gohan even said in the movie broly is a bad a monster as ever lol i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 but cell has to go all out in order to beat movie 8 broly
FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell
bojack is stronger than perfect cell but much weaker than SPC

movie 8 took place between episdoes 160 to 175 the perfect cell saga after cell achieved his perfect form
besides i am talking abou broly overall and movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adullt gohan so I am asking if there is a proof that broly>cell

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buff cell was weaker than gohan since gohan owned him with two kicks besides cell has regen proves he has more abillities and i am talking about raw power broly gets a zenkai and gets stronger as well

movie 10 broly>ssj2 adult gohan

movie 10 broly is equal or a bit stronger than SPC



nope. It’s been stated several times that dai san dankai gives much more power and strength, but who uses it gets slower.
Trunks was even more powerful than perfect cell, just to let you know how much of a difference in power there is between base SSJ and dai san dankai.
But dai ni dankai increases power, strength, speed and durability (vegeta as a ssj was weaker than 18 but when he used dai ni dankai he was more powerful than cell in his second form)
Also broly has zenkai, but it’s useless if he can’t be healed. that’s why cell has a better zenkai, because he can heal himself, even when he’s blown to pieces, while if you blow away broly’s head the fight is over.



gohan’s kcicks seriously damaged buff cell so cell cant be stronger if cell was stronger why was he damaged? broly gets a zenkai and gets healed as well you ust said that cell is better since he can also regenerate but it has nothing to do with the zenkai’s power only with the way you are healed lol but that means cell is a better fighter than broly and has more abillities but that doesnt mean cell has more raw power than cell

people actually have to prove broly>cell since cell faced stronger characters but was even with them and broly faced with weaker enemies but beat them which means broly is cell’s level

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pakl123456 wrote:

LegendaryDarkKnight wrote:

buff cell was weaker than gohan since gohan owned him with two kicks besides cell has regen proves he has more abillities and i am talking about raw power broly gets a zenkai and gets stronger as well

movie 10 broly>ssj2 adult gohan

movie 10 broly is equal or a bit stronger than SPC



nope. It’s been stated several times that dai san dankai gives much more power and strength, but who uses it gets slower.
Trunks was even more powerful than perfect cell, just to let you know how much of a difference in power there is between base SSJ and dai san dankai.
But dai ni dankai increases power, strength, speed and durability (vegeta as a ssj was weaker than 18 but when he used dai ni dankai he was more powerful than cell in his second form)
Also broly has zenkai, but it’s useless if he can’t be healed. that’s why cell has a better zenkai, because he can heal himself, even when he’s blown to pieces, while if you blow away broly’s head the fight is over.



gohan’s kcicks seriously damaged buff cell so cell cant be stronger if cell was stronger why was he damaged? broly gets a zenkai and gets healed as well you ust said that cell is better since he can also regenerate but it has nothing to do with the zenkai’s power only with the way you are healed lol but that means cell is a better fighter than broly and has more abillities but that doesnt mean cell has more raw power than cell

people actually have to prove broly>cell since cell faced stronger characters but was even with them and broly faced with weaker enemies but beat them which means broly is cell’s level




that’s EXACTLY the point of zenkai! if broly fought with cell and cell used kienzan on him, cutting him in half, broly couldn’t use zenkai, because zenkai happens when a saiyan is healed from a wound, so broly would die, because he can’t heal himself. on the other hand, if broly blasted away cell’head, cell would become more powerful, and so on. If broly can’t kill him in one shot, he can’t win.

And also, it has been said in the series maaany times that dai ni dankai and dai san dankai make you stronger, but that doesn’t mean that you are immune to anything, it’s obvious that a fast kick always hurts!


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LegendaryDarkKnight wrote:

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buff cell was weaker than gohan since gohan owned him with two kicks besides cell has regen proves he has more abillities and i am talking about raw power broly gets a zenkai and gets stronger as well

movie 10 broly>ssj2 adult gohan

movie 10 broly is equal or a bit stronger than SPC



nope. It’s been stated several times that dai san dankai gives much more power and strength, but who uses it gets slower.
Trunks was even more powerful than perfect cell, just to let you know how much of a difference in power there is between base SSJ and dai san dankai.
But dai ni dankai increases power, strength, speed and durability (vegeta as a ssj was weaker than 18 but when he used dai ni dankai he was more powerful than cell in his second form)
Also broly has zenkai, but it’s useless if he can’t be healed. that’s why cell has a better zenkai, because he can heal himself, even when he’s blown to pieces, while if you blow away broly’s head the fight is over.



gohan’s kcicks seriously damaged buff cell so cell cant be stronger if cell was stronger why was he damaged? broly gets a zenkai and gets healed as well you ust said that cell is better since he can also regenerate but it has nothing to do with the zenkai’s power only with the way you are healed lol but that means cell is a better fighter than broly and has more abillities but that doesnt mean cell has more raw power than cell

people actually have to prove broly>cell since cell faced stronger characters but was even with them and broly faced with weaker enemies but beat them which means broly is cell’s level




that’s EXACTLY the point of zenkai! if broly fought with cell and cell used kienzan on him, cutting him in half, broly couldn’t use zenkai, because zenkai happens when a saiyan is healed from a wound, so broly would die, because he can’t heal himself. on the other hand, if broly blasted away cell’head, cell would become more powerful, and so on. If broly can’t kill him in one shot, he can’t win.

And also, it has been said in the series maaany times that dai ni dankai and dai san dankai make you stronger, but that doesn’t mean that you are immune to anything, it’s obvious that a fast kick always hurts!



again that means broly is a better fighter than broly he has more abillities than him i am asking if there is a proof to determinate who is stronger between cell and broly in raw power lol and buff makes you much stronger but how much stronger? he was still weaker than gohan lol FP perfect cell gave gohan a fast punch yet gohan was unfazed since he was stronger
SPC>=ssj2 kid gohan>buff cell>FP perfect cell

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pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote: MvC, I thought we have already discussed this like a million times.

Cell is obviously stronger.



i have them equals but what makes you think cell is stronger?

I don’t think that they are in equall level, unless you mean Perfect Cell before he became super.

As I said in LLK reply, Cell knows more techiques that could put down Broly and been pwning fighter stronger than in the 8 movie.

Also, movie 10 isn’t stronger than movie 8 since he never had time for his zenkai.



movie10 broly is massively stronger than movie 8 broly it was stated in broly’s design and in the movie when gohan said broly is a bad a monster as ever movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adult gohan and i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 yet perfet cell has to go all out vs movie 8 broly FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell
base bojack is obviously perfect cell’s level maybe a bit weaker and he was stated to be stronger than movie 8 broly

the z fighters actually were cell games level in the ova since toei copied the facts from the cell games to the ova

Like I said, Broly didn’t have time for zenka and still had that scar from Goku. If you are seriously saying that a characters statement > Logic that is set in the verse.

Also, when did Cell ever go against Broly in any of the movies? Movie 8 doesn’t even in the same timeline, it’s on a alternative time line where Piccolo beat Cell in their first encounter.

Bojack got one shoted by SSJ2 Gohan, Cell might be on the same level as Bojack but not SPC.

@Edit: Raw power? Cell took on stronger fighter than what movie 8 and 10 had to offer.



I am sayiin statements from the movie and the design prove you wrong the design states broly’s power increased and gohan even said in the movie broly is a bad a monster as ever lol

Logic that they set ealier > Desgin that they overuse. Also, SSJ2 Teen/Adult Gohan got no shit on SSJ2 Kid Gohan and Broly was taking damage from his attacks.

i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 but cell has to go all out in order to beat movie 8 broly
FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell

he doesn’t since he beat stronger versions of the z-fighters.

bojack is stronger than perfect cell but much weaker than SPC

There is nothing that suggests that Bojack is stronger than that Cell, but that he is around his level.

movie 8 took place between episdoes 160 to 175 the perfect cell saga after cell achieved his perfect form
besides i am talking abou broly overall and movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adullt gohan so I am asking if there is a proof that broly>cell

Again, the movie took in an alternative timeline. If it was between episode 160 to 175, then why wasn’t vegeta around?

It’s quite obvious proof that Cell is stronger than Broly when he was going to win against SSJ2 Gohan when Broly was had his ups and down with a weaker version of Gohan.


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again that means broly is a better fighter than broly he has more abillities than him i am asking if there is a proof to determinate who is stronger between cell and broly in raw power lol and buff makes you much stronger but how much stronger? he was still weaker than gohan lol FP perfect cell gave gohan a fast punch yet gohan was unfazed since he was stronger
SPC>=ssj2 kid gohan>buff cell>FP perfect cell



nope, that means cell’s power increases more quickly than broly’s “unlimited power” and that the gap can only get larger.
how much stronger, you ask?
I’ll say this: trunks as a SSJ was weaker than 18, as a dai ni dankai he was stronger than vegeta dai ni dankai (aka super vegeta), and as a dai san dankai he was more powerful than perfect cell! that’s one hell of a difference, isn’t it?
basically, turning dai san dankai makes one as powerful and strong than a SSJ2, but slower than a SSJ.
so cell, who is pretty much already SSJ2 level, would get pretty near to SSJ3 level in raw strength and power, but slower than his base form.
But broly can’t go dai san dankai, so his ki and physichal strength isn’t as great as cell’s


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Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote: MvC, I thought we have already discussed this like a million times.

Cell is obviously stronger.



i have them equals but what makes you think cell is stronger?

I don’t think that they are in equall level, unless you mean Perfect Cell before he became super.

As I said in LLK reply, Cell knows more techiques that could put down Broly and been pwning fighter stronger than in the 8 movie.

Also, movie 10 isn’t stronger than movie 8 since he never had time for his zenkai.



movie10 broly is massively stronger than movie 8 broly it was stated in broly’s design and in the movie when gohan said broly is a bad a monster as ever movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adult gohan and i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 yet perfet cell has to go all out vs movie 8 broly FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell
base bojack is obviously perfect cell’s level maybe a bit weaker and he was stated to be stronger than movie 8 broly

the z fighters actually were cell games level in the ova since toei copied the facts from the cell games to the ova

Like I said, Broly didn’t have time for zenka and still had that scar from Goku. If you are seriously saying that a characters statement > Logic that is set in the verse.

Also, when did Cell ever go against Broly in any of the movies? Movie 8 doesn’t even in the same timeline, it’s on a alternative time line where Piccolo beat Cell in their first encounter.

Bojack got one shoted by SSJ2 Gohan, Cell might be on the same level as Bojack but not SPC.

@Edit: Raw power? Cell took on stronger fighter than what movie 8 and 10 had to offer.



I am sayiin statements from the movie and the design prove you wrong the design states broly’s power increased and gohan even said in the movie broly is a bad a monster as ever lol

Logic that they set ealier > Desgin that they overuse. Also, SSJ2 Teen/Adult Gohan got no shit on SSJ2 Kid Gohan and Broly was taking damage from his attacks.

i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 but cell has to go all out in order to beat movie 8 broly
FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell

he doesn’t since he beat stronger versions of the z-fighters.

bojack is stronger than perfect cell but much weaker than SPC

There is nothing that suggests that Bojack is stronger than that Cell, but that he is around his level.

movie 8 took place between episdoes 160 to 175 the perfect cell saga after cell achieved his perfect form
besides i am talking abou broly overall and movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adullt gohan so I am asking if there is a proof that broly>cell

Again, the movie took in an alternative timeline. If it was between episode 160 to 175, then why wasn’t vegeta around?

It’s quite obvious proof that Cell is stronger than Broly when he was going to win against SSJ2 Gohan when Broly was had his ups and down with a weaker version of Gohan.



the movie himself took place durong the perfect cell saga episodes 160 to 175 the movie was released between episdoes 176 to 177
movie 6=androids saga
movie 7=imperfect cell saga
movie 8=perfect cell saga
movie 9=cell games saga

the design was made by toriyama and it says broly got stronger and iit was also saidn in the movie

he beat stronger versions of the zs fighters yet the difrences in the movies are bigger and the z figters were weaker but not much weaker since they were actually cell games levels in the ova and goku stated hatchiyack>movie 8 broly yet that mean cell has to go full power to be stronger than broly

bojack>perfect cell toei always makes the new characters the strongest like SPC>ssj2 kid gohan in the anime and kid buu>buuhan toei wanted to shOW BOJACK>PERFECT CELL THATS WHY BOJACK WAS ABLE TO USE HIS POWERFUL ATTACK EVEN AFTER BEING PUNCHED BY GOHAN WHILE CELL WAS UNABLE TO STAND

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LegendaryDarkKnight wrote:

again that means broly is a better fighter than broly he has more abillities than him i am asking if there is a proof to determinate who is stronger between cell and broly in raw power lol and buff makes you much stronger but how much stronger? he was still weaker than gohan lol FP perfect cell gave gohan a fast punch yet gohan was unfazed since he was stronger
SPC>=ssj2 kid gohan>buff cell>FP perfect cell



nope, that means cell’s power increases more quickly than broly’s “unlimited power” and that the gap can only get larger.
how much stronger, you ask?
I’ll say this: trunks as a SSJ was weaker than 18, as a dai ni dankai he was stronger than vegeta dai ni dankai (aka super vegeta), and as a dai san dankai he was more powerful than perfect cell! that’s one hell of a difference, isn’t it?
basically, turning dai san dankai makes one as powerful and strong than a SSJ2, but slower than a SSJ.
so cell, who is pretty much already SSJ2 level, would get pretty near to SSJ3 level in raw strength and power, but slower than his base form.
But broly can’t go dai san dankai, so his ki and physichal strength isn’t as great as cell’s



ssj trunks is not weaker than 18 ssj trunks was actualyy above semi perfect cell and buff cell>perfect cell doesnt mean he was stronger than gohan besides ssj3 is not a set power level you cant say he is close to ssj3 lol you should say which ssj3 because the power is diffrent by every user and broly doesnt have unlimited power its false and not true at all

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Broly

He fought 2x Full Power SSJs, 2X Ascended SSJ and Piccolo

Where does it state Cell was holding back THAT much against Goku? Broly had little trouble

Of course when Cell went Super Perfect he was SSJ2 level but I doubt SSJ2 is that much stronger-still put Broly a little stronger

Plus he fought SSJ2 Gohan,Goten and Goku in a beam struggle- even though Gohan was past his prime he was still SSJ2 (it’s DUMB thinking he was not when he would have died/seen his brother,girlfriend and best friend killed if he didn’t go full power

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pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote: MvC, I thought we have already discussed this like a million times.

Cell is obviously stronger.



i have them equals but what makes you think cell is stronger?

I don’t think that they are in equall level, unless you mean Perfect Cell before he became super.

As I said in LLK reply, Cell knows more techiques that could put down Broly and been pwning fighter stronger than in the 8 movie.

Also, movie 10 isn’t stronger than movie 8 since he never had time for his zenkai.



movie10 broly is massively stronger than movie 8 broly it was stated in broly’s design and in the movie when gohan said broly is a bad a monster as ever movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adult gohan and i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 yet perfet cell has to go all out vs movie 8 broly FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell
base bojack is obviously perfect cell’s level maybe a bit weaker and he was stated to be stronger than movie 8 broly

the z fighters actually were cell games level in the ova since toei copied the facts from the cell games to the ova

Like I said, Broly didn’t have time for zenka and still had that scar from Goku. If you are seriously saying that a characters statement > Logic that is set in the verse.

Also, when did Cell ever go against Broly in any of the movies? Movie 8 doesn’t even in the same timeline, it’s on a alternative time line where Piccolo beat Cell in their first encounter.

Bojack got one shoted by SSJ2 Gohan, Cell might be on the same level as Bojack but not SPC.

@Edit: Raw power? Cell took on stronger fighter than what movie 8 and 10 had to offer.



I am sayiin statements from the movie and the design prove you wrong the design states broly’s power increased and gohan even said in the movie broly is a bad a monster as ever lol

Logic that they set ealier > Desgin that they overuse. Also, SSJ2 Teen/Adult Gohan got no shit on SSJ2 Kid Gohan and Broly was taking damage from his attacks.

i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 but cell has to go all out in order to beat movie 8 broly
FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell

he doesn’t since he beat stronger versions of the z-fighters.

bojack is stronger than perfect cell but much weaker than SPC

There is nothing that suggests that Bojack is stronger than that Cell, but that he is around his level.

movie 8 took place between episdoes 160 to 175 the perfect cell saga after cell achieved his perfect form
besides i am talking abou broly overall and movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adullt gohan so I am asking if there is a proof that broly>cell

Again, the movie took in an alternative timeline. If it was between episode 160 to 175, then why wasn’t vegeta around?

It’s quite obvious proof that Cell is stronger than Broly when he was going to win against SSJ2 Gohan when Broly was had his ups and down with a weaker version of Gohan.



the movie himself took place durong the perfect cell saga episodes 160 to 175 the movie was released between episdoes 176 to 177
movie 6=androids saga
movie 7=imperfect cell saga
movie 8=perfect cell saga
movie 9=cell games saga

You obviously don’t know the term of alternative timeline right? The only movie that could take place with the original time line is movie 9. Because the rest doesn’t make sense.

the design was made by toriyama and it says broly got stronger and iit was also saidn in the movie

Show me where in the movie besides gohans statement that broly is stronger when he haven’t even got a zenkai. Show me where toriyama himself said that he gave a shit on what’s happens in the dbz movies

he beat stronger versions of the zs fighters yet the difrences in the movies are bigger and the z figters were weaker but not much weaker since they were actually cell games levels in the ova and goku stated hatchiyack>movie 8 broly yet that mean cell has to go full power to be stronger than broly

The ova and movie 8 is both not in the same timeline as cell games. Because they. are. alternative. universes.

bojack>perfect cell toei always makes the new characters the strongest like SPC>ssj2 kid gohan in the anime and kid buu>buuhan toei wanted to shOW BOJACK>PERFECT CELL THATS WHY BOJACK WAS ABLE TO USE HIS POWERFUL ATTACK EVEN AFTER BEING PUNCHED BY GOHAN WHILE CELL WAS UNABLE TO STAND

Please, give me a valid reason why Bojack is stronger. Don’t use hurr durr logic that he came after Cell which means he’s stronger. And IIRC, Cell took more than one of Gohan punches and could fire his kamehameha while Bojack got pierced by one punch.
Tell me also how Bojack is going to surpass cells regen?


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ronki23 wrote: Broly

He fought 2x Full Power SSJs, 2X Ascended SSJ and Piccolo

Where does it state Cell was holding back THAT much against Goku? Broly had little trouble

Of course when Cell went Super Perfect he was SSJ2 level but I doubt SSJ2 is that much stronger-still put Broly a little stronger

Plus he fought SSJ2 Gohan,Goten and Goku in a beam struggle- even though Gohan was past his prime he was still SSJ2 (it’s DUMB thinking he was not when he would have died/seen his brother,girlfriend and best friend killed if he didn’t go full power



the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 and base hatchiyack who is perfect cell’s level is stronger than movie 8 broly cell was holding back as stated by cell and you can also see his power up

gohan was only sj2 when he first fought broly but was a ssj in the beam struggle he had two bangs stand broly was beaten by a kamehameha which was weaker than ssj2 goku and ssj2 goku beat broly in hell

ssj2 goku>movie 10 broly>=SPC>perfect cell>=base hatchiyack>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell

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Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

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pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote: MvC, I thought we have already discussed this like a million times.

Cell is obviously stronger.



i have them equals but what makes you think cell is stronger?

I don’t think that they are in equall level, unless you mean Perfect Cell before he became super.

As I said in LLK reply, Cell knows more techiques that could put down Broly and been pwning fighter stronger than in the 8 movie.

Also, movie 10 isn’t stronger than movie 8 since he never had time for his zenkai.



movie10 broly is massively stronger than movie 8 broly it was stated in broly’s design and in the movie when gohan said broly is a bad a monster as ever movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adult gohan and i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 yet perfet cell has to go all out vs movie 8 broly FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell
base bojack is obviously perfect cell’s level maybe a bit weaker and he was stated to be stronger than movie 8 broly

the z fighters actually were cell games level in the ova since toei copied the facts from the cell games to the ova

Like I said, Broly didn’t have time for zenka and still had that scar from Goku. If you are seriously saying that a characters statement > Logic that is set in the verse.

Also, when did Cell ever go against Broly in any of the movies? Movie 8 doesn’t even in the same timeline, it’s on a alternative time line where Piccolo beat Cell in their first encounter.

Bojack got one shoted by SSJ2 Gohan, Cell might be on the same level as Bojack but not SPC.

@Edit: Raw power? Cell took on stronger fighter than what movie 8 and 10 had to offer.



I am sayiin statements from the movie and the design prove you wrong the design states broly’s power increased and gohan even said in the movie broly is a bad a monster as ever lol

Logic that they set ealier > Desgin that they overuse. Also, SSJ2 Teen/Adult Gohan got no shit on SSJ2 Kid Gohan and Broly was taking damage from his attacks.

i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 but cell has to go all out in order to beat movie 8 broly
FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell

he doesn’t since he beat stronger versions of the z-fighters.

bojack is stronger than perfect cell but much weaker than SPC

There is nothing that suggests that Bojack is stronger than that Cell, but that he is around his level.

movie 8 took place between episdoes 160 to 175 the perfect cell saga after cell achieved his perfect form
besides i am talking abou broly overall and movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adullt gohan so I am asking if there is a proof that broly>cell

Again, the movie took in an alternative timeline. If it was between episode 160 to 175, then why wasn’t vegeta around?

It’s quite obvious proof that Cell is stronger than Broly when he was going to win against SSJ2 Gohan when Broly was had his ups and down with a weaker version of Gohan.



the movie himself took place durong the perfect cell saga episodes 160 to 175 the movie was released between episdoes 176 to 177
movie 6=androids saga
movie 7=imperfect cell saga
movie 8=perfect cell saga
movie 9=cell games saga

You obviously don’t know the term of alternative timeline right? The only movie that could take place with the original time line is movie 9. Because the rest doesn’t make sense.

the design was made by toriyama and it says broly got stronger and iit was also saidn in the movie

Show me where in the movie besides gohans statement that broly is stronger when he haven’t even got a zenkai. Show me where toriyama himself said that he gave a shit on what’s happens in the dbz movies

he beat stronger versions of the zs fighters yet the difrences in the movies are bigger and the z figters were weaker but not much weaker since they were actually cell games levels in the ova and goku stated hatchiyack>movie 8 broly yet that mean cell has to go full power to be stronger than broly

The ova and movie 8 is both not in the same timeline as cell games. Because they. are. alternative. universes.

bojack>perfect cell toei always makes the new characters the strongest like SPC>ssj2 kid gohan in the anime and kid buu>buuhan toei wanted to shOW BOJACK>PERFECT CELL THATS WHY BOJACK WAS ABLE TO USE HIS POWERFUL ATTACK EVEN AFTER BEING PUNCHED BY GOHAN WHILE CELL WAS UNABLE TO STAND

Please, give me a valid reason why Bojack is stronger. Don’t use hurr durr logic that he came after Cell which means he’s stronger. And IIRC, Cell took more than one of Gohan punches and could fire his kamehameha while Bojack got pierced by one punch.
Tell me also how Bojack is going to surpass cells regen?



“You obviously donít know the term of alternative timeline right? The only movie that could take place with the original time line is movie 9. Because the rest doesnít make sense."

lol i know that but movie 8 is the reference of the perfect cell saga while movie 9 is cell games saga

movie 8=perfect cell saga
movie 9=cell games saga

“Show me where in the movie besides gohans statement that broly is stronger when he haven’t even got a zenkai. Show me where toriyama himself said that he gave a shit on what’s happens in the dbz movies”

toriyama made the designs of the non canon characters

http://images.wikia.com/dragonball/images/1/19/Broly%28Daiz6%29.png

this is the link for broly’s designs when it says his strength increased

“The ova and movie 8 is both not in the same timeline as cell games. Because they. are. alternative. universes."

toei worked on movie 8 by the perfect cell saga after celll went perfect episodes 160-175 since movie 8 was released between episodes 176 to 177 but the ova was released between episodes 195 to 196 which means toei worked on the facts of the cell games

“Please, give me a valid reason why Bojack is stronger. Don’t use hurr durr logic that he came after Cell which means he’s stronger. And IIRC, Cell took more than one of Gohan punches and could fire his kamehameha while Bojack got pierced by one punch.
Tell me also how Bojack is going to surpass cells regen?"

you are talking about abillities lol cell has an advantage since he has regen yet bojack>perfect cell bojack was able to survive gohan’s punch and was able to keep fighting cell was unable to keep fighting toei wanted to show bojack>cell lol gohan even said bojack’s ki was amazing when he saw base bojack

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pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote: MvC, I thought we have already discussed this like a million times.

Cell is obviously stronger.



i have them equals but what makes you think cell is stronger?

I don’t think that they are in equall level, unless you mean Perfect Cell before he became super.

As I said in LLK reply, Cell knows more techiques that could put down Broly and been pwning fighter stronger than in the 8 movie.

Also, movie 10 isn’t stronger than movie 8 since he never had time for his zenkai.



movie10 broly is massively stronger than movie 8 broly it was stated in broly’s design and in the movie when gohan said broly is a bad a monster as ever movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adult gohan and i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 yet perfet cell has to go all out vs movie 8 broly FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell
base bojack is obviously perfect cell’s level maybe a bit weaker and he was stated to be stronger than movie 8 broly

the z fighters actually were cell games level in the ova since toei copied the facts from the cell games to the ova

Like I said, Broly didn’t have time for zenka and still had that scar from Goku. If you are seriously saying that a characters statement > Logic that is set in the verse.

Also, when did Cell ever go against Broly in any of the movies? Movie 8 doesn’t even in the same timeline, it’s on a alternative time line where Piccolo beat Cell in their first encounter.

Bojack got one shoted by SSJ2 Gohan, Cell might be on the same level as Bojack but not SPC.

@Edit: Raw power? Cell took on stronger fighter than what movie 8 and 10 had to offer.



I am sayiin statements from the movie and the design prove you wrong the design states broly’s power increased and gohan even said in the movie broly is a bad a monster as ever lol

Logic that they set ealier > Desgin that they overuse. Also, SSJ2 Teen/Adult Gohan got no shit on SSJ2 Kid Gohan and Broly was taking damage from his attacks.

i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 but cell has to go all out in order to beat movie 8 broly
FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell

he doesn’t since he beat stronger versions of the z-fighters.

bojack is stronger than perfect cell but much weaker than SPC

There is nothing that suggests that Bojack is stronger than that Cell, but that he is around his level.

movie 8 took place between episdoes 160 to 175 the perfect cell saga after cell achieved his perfect form
besides i am talking abou broly overall and movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adullt gohan so I am asking if there is a proof that broly>cell

Again, the movie took in an alternative timeline. If it was between episode 160 to 175, then why wasn’t vegeta around?

It’s quite obvious proof that Cell is stronger than Broly when he was going to win against SSJ2 Gohan when Broly was had his ups and down with a weaker version of Gohan.



the movie himself took place durong the perfect cell saga episodes 160 to 175 the movie was released between episdoes 176 to 177
movie 6=androids saga
movie 7=imperfect cell saga
movie 8=perfect cell saga
movie 9=cell games saga

You obviously don’t know the term of alternative timeline right? The only movie that could take place with the original time line is movie 9. Because the rest doesn’t make sense.

the design was made by toriyama and it says broly got stronger and iit was also saidn in the movie

Show me where in the movie besides gohans statement that broly is stronger when he haven’t even got a zenkai. Show me where toriyama himself said that he gave a shit on what’s happens in the dbz movies

he beat stronger versions of the zs fighters yet the difrences in the movies are bigger and the z figters were weaker but not much weaker since they were actually cell games levels in the ova and goku stated hatchiyack>movie 8 broly yet that mean cell has to go full power to be stronger than broly

The ova and movie 8 is both not in the same timeline as cell games. Because they. are. alternative. universes.

bojack>perfect cell toei always makes the new characters the strongest like SPC>ssj2 kid gohan in the anime and kid buu>buuhan toei wanted to shOW BOJACK>PERFECT CELL THATS WHY BOJACK WAS ABLE TO USE HIS POWERFUL ATTACK EVEN AFTER BEING PUNCHED BY GOHAN WHILE CELL WAS UNABLE TO STAND

Please, give me a valid reason why Bojack is stronger. Don’t use hurr durr logic that he came after Cell which means he’s stronger. And IIRC, Cell took more than one of Gohan punches and could fire his kamehameha while Bojack got pierced by one punch.
Tell me also how Bojack is going to surpass cells regen?



“You obviously donít know the term of alternative timeline right? The only movie that could take place with the original time line is movie 9. Because the rest doesnít make sense."

lol i know that but movie 8 is the reference of the perfect cell saga while movie 9 is cell games saga

movie 8=perfect cell saga
movie 9=cell games saga

Reference? Like how Gohan is SSJ?

That doesn’t mean that they are in the same level.

“Show me where in the movie besides gohans statement that broly is stronger when he haven’t even got a zenkai. Show me where toriyama himself said that he gave a shit on what’s happens in the dbz movies”

toriyama made the designs of the non canon characters

http://images.wikia.com/dragonball/images/1/19/Broly%28Daiz6%29.png

this is the link for broly’s designs when it says his strength increased

1. How are you sure that was Toriyama=
2. Obviously, the one who did this design didn’t watch the final work or knew that Broly didn’t get stronger since he didn’t have the time for his zenkai.

“The ova and movie 8 is both not in the same timeline as cell games. Because they. are. alternative. universes."

toei worked on movie 8 by the perfect cell saga after celll went perfect episodes 160-175 since movie 8 was released between episodes 176 to 177 but the ova was released between episodes 195 to 196 which means toei worked on the facts of the cell games

Like I say, they don’t have a big conection with each other and nobody cares when they where realised.

“Please, give me a valid reason why Bojack is stronger. Don’t use hurr durr logic that he came after Cell which means he’s stronger. And IIRC, Cell took more than one of Gohan punches and could fire his kamehameha while Bojack got pierced by one punch.
Tell me also how Bojack is going to surpass cells regen?"

you are talking about abillities

You obviously didn’t read the first part.

lol cell has an advantage since he has regen yet bojack>perfect cell bojack was able to survive gohan’s punch and was able to keep fighting cell was unable to keep fighting toei wanted to show bojack>cell lol gohan even said bojack’s ki was amazing when he saw base bojack

Obviously, you didn’t read the part I started the sentence with

Let me make it obvious for you

And IIRC, Cell took more than one of Gohan punches and could fire his kamehameha while Bojack got pierced by one punch.


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Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote: MvC, I thought we have already discussed this like a million times.

Cell is obviously stronger.



i have them equals but what makes you think cell is stronger?

I don’t think that they are in equall level, unless you mean Perfect Cell before he became super.

As I said in LLK reply, Cell knows more techiques that could put down Broly and been pwning fighter stronger than in the 8 movie.

Also, movie 10 isn’t stronger than movie 8 since he never had time for his zenkai.



movie10 broly is massively stronger than movie 8 broly it was stated in broly’s design and in the movie when gohan said broly is a bad a monster as ever movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adult gohan and i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 yet perfet cell has to go all out vs movie 8 broly FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell
base bojack is obviously perfect cell’s level maybe a bit weaker and he was stated to be stronger than movie 8 broly

the z fighters actually were cell games level in the ova since toei copied the facts from the cell games to the ova

Like I said, Broly didn’t have time for zenka and still had that scar from Goku. If you are seriously saying that a characters statement > Logic that is set in the verse.

Also, when did Cell ever go against Broly in any of the movies? Movie 8 doesn’t even in the same timeline, it’s on a alternative time line where Piccolo beat Cell in their first encounter.

Bojack got one shoted by SSJ2 Gohan, Cell might be on the same level as Bojack but not SPC.

@Edit: Raw power? Cell took on stronger fighter than what movie 8 and 10 had to offer.



I am sayiin statements from the movie and the design prove you wrong the design states broly’s power increased and gohan even said in the movie broly is a bad a monster as ever lol

Logic that they set ealier > Desgin that they overuse. Also, SSJ2 Teen/Adult Gohan got no shit on SSJ2 Kid Gohan and Broly was taking damage from his attacks.

i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 but cell has to go all out in order to beat movie 8 broly
FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell

he doesn’t since he beat stronger versions of the z-fighters.

bojack is stronger than perfect cell but much weaker than SPC

There is nothing that suggests that Bojack is stronger than that Cell, but that he is around his level.

movie 8 took place between episdoes 160 to 175 the perfect cell saga after cell achieved his perfect form
besides i am talking abou broly overall and movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adullt gohan so I am asking if there is a proof that broly>cell

Again, the movie took in an alternative timeline. If it was between episode 160 to 175, then why wasn’t vegeta around?

It’s quite obvious proof that Cell is stronger than Broly when he was going to win against SSJ2 Gohan when Broly was had his ups and down with a weaker version of Gohan.



the movie himself took place durong the perfect cell saga episodes 160 to 175 the movie was released between episdoes 176 to 177
movie 6=androids saga
movie 7=imperfect cell saga
movie 8=perfect cell saga
movie 9=cell games saga

You obviously don’t know the term of alternative timeline right? The only movie that could take place with the original time line is movie 9. Because the rest doesn’t make sense.

the design was made by toriyama and it says broly got stronger and iit was also saidn in the movie

Show me where in the movie besides gohans statement that broly is stronger when he haven’t even got a zenkai. Show me where toriyama himself said that he gave a shit on what’s happens in the dbz movies

he beat stronger versions of the zs fighters yet the difrences in the movies are bigger and the z figters were weaker but not much weaker since they were actually cell games levels in the ova and goku stated hatchiyack>movie 8 broly yet that mean cell has to go full power to be stronger than broly

The ova and movie 8 is both not in the same timeline as cell games. Because they. are. alternative. universes.

bojack>perfect cell toei always makes the new characters the strongest like SPC>ssj2 kid gohan in the anime and kid buu>buuhan toei wanted to shOW BOJACK>PERFECT CELL THATS WHY BOJACK WAS ABLE TO USE HIS POWERFUL ATTACK EVEN AFTER BEING PUNCHED BY GOHAN WHILE CELL WAS UNABLE TO STAND

Please, give me a valid reason why Bojack is stronger. Don’t use hurr durr logic that he came after Cell which means he’s stronger. And IIRC, Cell took more than one of Gohan punches and could fire his kamehameha while Bojack got pierced by one punch.
Tell me also how Bojack is going to surpass cells regen?



“You obviously donít know the term of alternative timeline right? The only movie that could take place with the original time line is movie 9. Because the rest doesnít make sense."

lol i know that but movie 8 is the reference of the perfect cell saga while movie 9 is cell games saga

movie 8=perfect cell saga
movie 9=cell games saga

Reference? Like how Gohan is SSJ?

That doesn’t mean that they are in the same level.

“Show me where in the movie besides gohans statement that broly is stronger when he haven’t even got a zenkai. Show me where toriyama himself said that he gave a shit on what’s happens in the dbz movies”

toriyama made the designs of the non canon characters

http://images.wikia.com/dragonball/images/1/19/Broly%28Daiz6%29.png

this is the link for broly’s designs when it says his strength increased

1. How are you sure that was Toriyama=
2. Obviously, the one who did this design didn’t watch the final work or knew that Broly didn’t get stronger since he didn’t have the time for his zenkai.

“The ova and movie 8 is both not in the same timeline as cell games. Because they. are. alternative. universes."

toei worked on movie 8 by the perfect cell saga after celll went perfect episodes 160-175 since movie 8 was released between episodes 176 to 177 but the ova was released between episodes 195 to 196 which means toei worked on the facts of the cell games

Like I say, they don’t have a big conection with each other and nobody cares when they where realised.

“Please, give me a valid reason why Bojack is stronger. Don’t use hurr durr logic that he came after Cell which means he’s stronger. And IIRC, Cell took more than one of Gohan punches and could fire his kamehameha while Bojack got pierced by one punch.
Tell me also how Bojack is going to surpass cells regen?"

you are talking about abillities

You obviously didn’t read the first part.

lol cell has an advantage since he has regen yet bojack>perfect cell bojack was able to survive gohan’s punch and was able to keep fighting cell was unable to keep fighting toei wanted to show bojack>cell lol gohan even said bojack’s ki was amazing when he saw base bojack

Obviously, you didn’t read the part I started the sentence with

Let me make it obvious for you

And IIRC, Cell took more than one of Gohan punches and could fire his kamehameha while Bojack got pierced by one punch.



I know they were weaker in movie 8 and lol the design states brooly’s strengthh increased and toriyama made the designs its a fact it was also stated in the movie

but yet bojack survived gohan’s punch and was able to keep fighting while cell couldn’t

toei makes the new stars the strongest bojack>perfect cell toei showed it

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pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote: MvC, I thought we have already discussed this like a million times.

Cell is obviously stronger.



i have them equals but what makes you think cell is stronger?

I don’t think that they are in equall level, unless you mean Perfect Cell before he became super.

As I said in LLK reply, Cell knows more techiques that could put down Broly and been pwning fighter stronger than in the 8 movie.

Also, movie 10 isn’t stronger than movie 8 since he never had time for his zenkai.



movie10 broly is massively stronger than movie 8 broly it was stated in broly’s design and in the movie when gohan said broly is a bad a monster as ever movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adult gohan and i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 yet perfet cell has to go all out vs movie 8 broly FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell
base bojack is obviously perfect cell’s level maybe a bit weaker and he was stated to be stronger than movie 8 broly

the z fighters actually were cell games level in the ova since toei copied the facts from the cell games to the ova

Like I said, Broly didn’t have time for zenka and still had that scar from Goku. If you are seriously saying that a characters statement > Logic that is set in the verse.

Also, when did Cell ever go against Broly in any of the movies? Movie 8 doesn’t even in the same timeline, it’s on a alternative time line where Piccolo beat Cell in their first encounter.

Bojack got one shoted by SSJ2 Gohan, Cell might be on the same level as Bojack but not SPC.

@Edit: Raw power? Cell took on stronger fighter than what movie 8 and 10 had to offer.



I am sayiin statements from the movie and the design prove you wrong the design states broly’s power increased and gohan even said in the movie broly is a bad a monster as ever lol

Logic that they set ealier > Desgin that they overuse. Also, SSJ2 Teen/Adult Gohan got no shit on SSJ2 Kid Gohan and Broly was taking damage from his attacks.

i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 but cell has to go all out in order to beat movie 8 broly
FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell

he doesn’t since he beat stronger versions of the z-fighters.

bojack is stronger than perfect cell but much weaker than SPC

There is nothing that suggests that Bojack is stronger than that Cell, but that he is around his level.

movie 8 took place between episdoes 160 to 175 the perfect cell saga after cell achieved his perfect form
besides i am talking abou broly overall and movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adullt gohan so I am asking if there is a proof that broly>cell

Again, the movie took in an alternative timeline. If it was between episode 160 to 175, then why wasn’t vegeta around?

It’s quite obvious proof that Cell is stronger than Broly when he was going to win against SSJ2 Gohan when Broly was had his ups and down with a weaker version of Gohan.



the movie himself took place durong the perfect cell saga episodes 160 to 175 the movie was released between episdoes 176 to 177
movie 6=androids saga
movie 7=imperfect cell saga
movie 8=perfect cell saga
movie 9=cell games saga

You obviously don’t know the term of alternative timeline right? The only movie that could take place with the original time line is movie 9. Because the rest doesn’t make sense.

the design was made by toriyama and it says broly got stronger and iit was also saidn in the movie

Show me where in the movie besides gohans statement that broly is stronger when he haven’t even got a zenkai. Show me where toriyama himself said that he gave a shit on what’s happens in the dbz movies

he beat stronger versions of the zs fighters yet the difrences in the movies are bigger and the z figters were weaker but not much weaker since they were actually cell games levels in the ova and goku stated hatchiyack>movie 8 broly yet that mean cell has to go full power to be stronger than broly

The ova and movie 8 is both not in the same timeline as cell games. Because they. are. alternative. universes.

bojack>perfect cell toei always makes the new characters the strongest like SPC>ssj2 kid gohan in the anime and kid buu>buuhan toei wanted to shOW BOJACK>PERFECT CELL THATS WHY BOJACK WAS ABLE TO USE HIS POWERFUL ATTACK EVEN AFTER BEING PUNCHED BY GOHAN WHILE CELL WAS UNABLE TO STAND

Please, give me a valid reason why Bojack is stronger. Don’t use hurr durr logic that he came after Cell which means he’s stronger. And IIRC, Cell took more than one of Gohan punches and could fire his kamehameha while Bojack got pierced by one punch.
Tell me also how Bojack is going to surpass cells regen?



“You obviously donít know the term of alternative timeline right? The only movie that could take place with the original time line is movie 9. Because the rest doesnít make sense."

lol i know that but movie 8 is the reference of the perfect cell saga while movie 9 is cell games saga

movie 8=perfect cell saga
movie 9=cell games saga

Reference? Like how Gohan is SSJ?

That doesn’t mean that they are in the same level.

“Show me where in the movie besides gohans statement that broly is stronger when he haven’t even got a zenkai. Show me where toriyama himself said that he gave a shit on what’s happens in the dbz movies”

toriyama made the designs of the non canon characters

http://images.wikia.com/dragonball/images/1/19/Broly%28Daiz6%29.png

this is the link for broly’s designs when it says his strength increased

1. How are you sure that was Toriyama=
2. Obviously, the one who did this design didn’t watch the final work or knew that Broly didn’t get stronger since he didn’t have the time for his zenkai.

“The ova and movie 8 is both not in the same timeline as cell games. Because they. are. alternative. universes."

toei worked on movie 8 by the perfect cell saga after celll went perfect episodes 160-175 since movie 8 was released between episodes 176 to 177 but the ova was released between episodes 195 to 196 which means toei worked on the facts of the cell games

Like I say, they don’t have a big conection with each other and nobody cares when they where realised.

“Please, give me a valid reason why Bojack is stronger. Don’t use hurr durr logic that he came after Cell which means he’s stronger. And IIRC, Cell took more than one of Gohan punches and could fire his kamehameha while Bojack got pierced by one punch.
Tell me also how Bojack is going to surpass cells regen?"

you are talking about abillities

You obviously didn’t read the first part.

lol cell has an advantage since he has regen yet bojack>perfect cell bojack was able to survive gohan’s punch and was able to keep fighting cell was unable to keep fighting toei wanted to show bojack>cell lol gohan even said bojack’s ki was amazing when he saw base bojack

Obviously, you didn’t read the part I started the sentence with

Let me make it obvious for you

And IIRC, Cell took more than one of Gohan punches and could fire his kamehameha while Bojack got pierced by one punch.



I know they were weaker in movie 8 and lol the design states brooly’s strengthh increased and toriyama made the designs its a fact it was also stated in the movie

Prove it.

but yet bojack survived gohan’s punch and was able to keep fighting while cell couldn’t.
toei makes the new stars the strongest bojack>perfect cell toei showed it

Obviously, you memory of the fight isn’t as clear.








He even could do an all out attack after those punches.



And this is is how bojack did. 13:31


If you seriously say that Bojack was stronger than Cell when he took a punch more fatal then cell then you are out of your mind.


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Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote:

pakl123456 wrote:

Slayer wrote: MvC, I thought we have already discussed this like a million times.

Cell is obviously stronger.



i have them equals but what makes you think cell is stronger?

I don’t think that they are in equall level, unless you mean Perfect Cell before he became super.

toei always makes the new stars the strongest thats why they made kid buu>buuhan and bojack survived gohan’s punch was standing and sued his full power attack while cell was unable to move and fell
bojack>perfect cell gohan was amazed about base hatchiyack’s power

SPC>super bojack>full power perfect cell>base bojack
As I said in LLK reply, Cell knows more techiques that could put down Broly and been pwning fighter stronger than in the 8 movie.

Also, movie 10 isn’t stronger than movie 8 since he never had time for his zenkai.



movie10 broly is massively stronger than movie 8 broly it was stated in broly’s design and in the movie when gohan said broly is a bad a monster as ever movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adult gohan and i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 yet perfet cell has to go all out vs movie 8 broly FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell
base bojack is obviously perfect cell’s level maybe a bit weaker and he was stated to be stronger than movie 8 broly

the z fighters actually were cell games level in the ova since toei copied the facts from the cell games to the ova

Like I said, Broly didn’t have time for zenka and still had that scar from Goku. If you are seriously saying that a characters statement > Logic that is set in the verse.

Also, when did Cell ever go against Broly in any of the movies? Movie 8 doesn’t even in the same timeline, it’s on a alternative time line where Piccolo beat Cell in their first encounter.

Bojack got one shoted by SSJ2 Gohan, Cell might be on the same level as Bojack but not SPC.

@Edit: Raw power? Cell took on stronger fighter than what movie 8 and 10 had to offer.



I am sayiin statements from the movie and the design prove you wrong the design states broly’s power increased and gohan even said in the movie broly is a bad a monster as ever lol

Logic that they set ealier > Desgin that they overuse. Also, SSJ2 Teen/Adult Gohan got no shit on SSJ2 Kid Gohan and Broly was taking damage from his attacks.

i know the z fighters are weaker in movie 8 but cell has to go all out in order to beat movie 8 broly
FP perfect cell>movie 8 broly>suppressed perfect cell

he doesn’t since he beat stronger versions of the z-fighters.

bojack is stronger than perfect cell but much weaker than SPC

There is nothing that suggests that Bojack is stronger than that Cell, but that he is around his level.

movie 8 took place between episdoes 160 to 175 the perfect cell saga after cell achieved his perfect form
besides i am talking abou broly overall and movie 10 broly beat ssj2 adullt gohan so I am asking if there is a proof that broly>cell

Again, the movie took in an alternative timeline. If it was between episode 160 to 175, then why wasn’t vegeta around?

It’s quite obvious proof that Cell is stronger than Broly when he was going to win against SSJ2 Gohan when Broly was had his ups and down with a weaker version of Gohan.



the movie himself took place durong the perfect cell saga episodes 160 to 175 the movie was released between episdoes 176 to 177
movie 6=androids saga
movie 7=imperfect cell saga
movie 8=perfect cell saga
movie 9=cell games saga

You obviously don’t know the term of alternative timeline right? The only movie that could take place with the original time line is movie 9. Because the rest doesn’t make sense.

the design was made by toriyama and it says broly got stronger and iit was also saidn in the movie

Show me where in the movie besides gohans statement that broly is stronger when he haven’t even got a zenkai. Show me where toriyama himself said that he gave a shit on what’s happens in the dbz movies

he beat stronger versions of the zs fighters yet the difrences in the movies are bigger and the z figters were weaker but not much weaker since they were actually cell games levels in the ova and goku stated hatchiyack>movie 8 broly yet that mean cell has to go full power to be stronger than broly

The ova and movie 8 is both not in the same timeline as cell games. Because they. are. alternative. universes.

bojack>perfect cell toei always makes the new characters the strongest like SPC>ssj2 kid gohan in the anime and kid buu>buuhan toei wanted to shOW BOJACK>PERFECT CELL THATS WHY BOJACK WAS ABLE TO USE HIS POWERFUL ATTACK EVEN AFTER BEING PUNCHED BY GOHAN WHILE CELL WAS UNABLE TO STAND

Please, give me a valid reason why Bojack is stronger. Don’t use hurr durr logic that he came after Cell which means he’s stronger. And IIRC, Cell took more than one of Gohan punches and could fire his kamehameha while Bojack got pierced by one punch.
Tell me also how Bojack is going to surpass cells regen?



“You obviously don’t know the term of alternative timeline right? The only movie that could take place with the original time line is movie 9. Because the rest doesn’t make sense."

lol i know that but movie 8 is the reference of the perfect cell saga while movie 9 is cell games saga

movie 8=perfect cell saga
movie 9=cell games saga

Reference? Like how Gohan is SSJ?

That doesn’t mean that they are in the same level.

“Show me where in the movie besides gohans statement that broly is stronger when he haven’t even got a zenkai. Show me where toriyama himself said that he gave a shit on what’s happens in the dbz movies”

toriyama made the designs of the non canon characters

http://images.wikia.com/dragonball/images/1/19/Broly%28Daiz6%29.png

this is the link for broly’s designs when it says his strength increased

1. How are you sure that was Toriyama=
2. Obviously, the one who did this design didn’t watch the final work or knew that Broly didn’t get stronger since he didn’t have the time for his zenkai.

“The ova and movie 8 is both not in the same timeline as cell games. Because they. are. alternative. universes."

toei worked on movie 8 by the perfect cell saga after celll went perfect episodes 160-175 since movie 8 was released between episodes 176 to 177 but the ova was released between episodes 195 to 196 which means toei worked on the facts of the cell games

Like I say, they don’t have a big conection with each other and nobody cares when they where realised.

“Please, give me a valid reason why Bojack is stronger. Don’t use hurr durr logic that he came after Cell which means he’s stronger. And IIRC, Cell took more than one of Gohan punches and could fire his kamehameha while Bojack got pierced by one punch.
Tell me also how Bojack is going to surpass cells regen?"

you are talking about abillities

You obviously didn’t read the first part.

lol cell has an advantage since he has regen yet bojack>perfect cell bojack was able to survive gohan’s punch and was able to keep fighting cell was unable to keep fighting toei wanted to show bojack>cell lol gohan even said bojack’s ki was amazing when he saw base bojack

Obviously, you didn’t read the part I started the sentence with

Let me make it obvious for you

And IIRC, Cell took more than one of Gohan punches and could fire his kamehameha while Bojack got pierced by one punch.



I know they were weaker in movie 8 and lol the design states brooly’s strengthh increased and toriyama made the designs its a fact it was also stated in the movie

Prove it.

but yet bojack survived gohan’s punch and was able to keep fighting while cell couldn’t.
toei makes the new stars the strongest bojack>perfect cell toei showed it

Obviously, you memory of the fight isn’t as clear.








He even could do an all out attack after those punches.



And this is is how bojack did. 13:31


If you seriously say that Bojack was stronger than Cell when he took a punch more fatal then cell then you are out of your mind.



LOL toei makes the new characters the strongest besides bohack was able to survive gohan’s punch ahe stood and was able tpo use his tsrongest attack while cell was on the ground and could of barely movied

Edited 03-27-2012 02:46 PM by pakl123456
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I’m going 2 end all of this bull look broly is stronger than super saiyan 3 end of story

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Jay-mane swagger wrote: I’m going 2 end all of this bull look broly is stronger than super saiyan 3 end of story



Lol


So is SSJ2 Goku stronger than SSJ3 Goku now?


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