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is buuhan a universe buster

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10-31-2010 01:04 PM
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so we all agre NONcanon buuhan is a universe buster and canon buuhan is not so that means gt follows power scaleing from him being a univere buster thanx by

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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
He would have to be billions of times stronger to destroy a galaxy, but it doesn’t mean he would need to say have a billion times the power level(Say Cell is 1 and Buuhan is a billion)

In the anime, he was going to destroy the universe for sure though. Through odd methods. Who knows how powerful he is in the manga. We never see his full potential nor do we see Vegito’s.

Even the OBD put these two at multi-planet busters.(I guess this means they could do what King Vegeta did in the anime?) and they even say potential star buster. So it’s obvious they don’t even know what level Buuhan is.

But you’re right:
Manga: The answer to the thread is no.
Anime: The answer is yes.



Albeit, he can’t do it casually and it requires an odd method. This wouldn’t help very much against characters that can blitz him easily like Dark Schneider or Pegasus Seiya.


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mr sonprime wrote: so we all agre NONcanon buuhan is a universe buster and canon buuhan is not so that means gt follows power scaleing from him being a univere buster thanx by



Not through ki. Only through some strange reality warping power (the yelling) that wouldn’t be much help against very powerful opponents.

And GT power scaling makes no sense anyway.


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10-31-2010 01:07 PM
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LJF Game 2.0 wrote: Canon Buuhan isn’t even a galaxy buster.


Kid Buu, Fat Buu, Super Buu, Mystic Gohan, SSJ3 Goku and SSJ3 Gotenks are on a similar tier of power and they’re all multiple times stronger than SPC who is solar system level.

Buutenksolo shits on any of the above.

Buuhan is far above Buutenks who’s nothing compared to SSJ Vegito in terms of power.

It’s entirely plausible if Buuhan or Vegito, at the very least, were galaxy level.

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ArchDaemon wrote:

LJF Game 2.0 wrote: Canon Buuhan isn’t even a galaxy buster.


Kid Buu, Fat Buu, Super Buu, Mystic Gohan, SSJ3 Goku and SSJ3 Gotenks are on a similar tier of power and they’re all multiple times stronger than SPC who is solar system level.

Buutenksolo shits on any of the above.

Buuhan is far above Buutenks who’s nothing compared to SSJ Vegito in terms of power.

It’s entirely plausible if Buuhan or Vegito, at the very least, were galaxy level.

Yeah all those guys are multiple times stronger than SPC, perhaps 1000x more powerful at least.

But they would have to be 100,000,000,000x more powerful to destroy a normal sized galaxy.


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10-31-2010 01:21 PM
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LJF Game 2.0 wrote:

ArchDaemon wrote:

LJF Game 2.0 wrote: Canon Buuhan isn’t even a galaxy buster.


Kid Buu, Fat Buu, Super Buu, Mystic Gohan, SSJ3 Goku and SSJ3 Gotenks are on a similar tier of power and they’re all multiple times stronger than SPC who is solar system level.

Buutenksolo shits on any of the above.

Buuhan is far above Buutenks who’s nothing compared to SSJ Vegito in terms of power.

It’s entirely plausible if Buuhan or Vegito, at the very least, were galaxy level.

Yeah all those guys are multiple times stronger than SPC, perhaps 1000x more powerful at least.

But they would have to be 100,000,000,000x more powerful to destroy a normal sized galaxy.


I already went over this with Chibi.

Power levels aren’t linear, they’re exponential.

For example: Roshi busted the moon at a P.L. of 139.
28 Farmers with shotguns couldn’t even bust a hill.
Each farmer has a P.L. of 5.

While they would have to be billions of times more powerful, their actual P.L. doesn’t need to be anywhere near that many times higher than Super Perfect Cell.

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ArchDaemon wrote:

LJF Game 2.0 wrote:

ArchDaemon wrote:

LJF Game 2.0 wrote: Canon Buuhan isn’t even a galaxy buster.


Kid Buu, Fat Buu, Super Buu, Mystic Gohan, SSJ3 Goku and SSJ3 Gotenks are on a similar tier of power and they’re all multiple times stronger than SPC who is solar system level.

Buutenksolo shits on any of the above.

Buuhan is far above Buutenks who’s nothing compared to SSJ Vegito in terms of power.

It’s entirely plausible if Buuhan or Vegito, at the very least, were galaxy level.

Yeah all those guys are multiple times stronger than SPC, perhaps 1000x more powerful at least.

But they would have to be 100,000,000,000x more powerful to destroy a normal sized galaxy.


I already went over this with Chibi.

Power levels aren’t linear, they’re exponential.

For example: Roshi busted the moon at a P.L. of 139.
28 Farmers with shotguns couldn’t even bust a hill.
Each farmer has a P.L. of 5.

While they would have to be billions of times more powerful, their actual P.L. doesn’t need to be anywhere near that many times higher than Super Perfect Cell.

I know. That’s not what I was trying to say.


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10-31-2010 01:25 PM
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Like I said, it’s plausible but we can’t know for sure.

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Dongtacular wrote: It’s very fucking simple actually:

With Goku gone nobody would be able to stop Buu.
Buu with IT can jump from planet to planet, destroying them.
Over time, the universe will be devoid of life, ergo “destroyed”.

Universe busting would equal physically destroying the entire universe with one single attack. The notion that Buu could do this is just completely and utterly retarded.

If he could do that, he wouldn’t need to fight Goku or anyone else, he could just universe bust and have the entire thing over and done with in two seconds.

No.

Buu was going to destroy the universe in the anime via collapsing dimensions into one another. What you are saying is rubbish, and not what is shown.


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GodHandTheWorld wrote:

Dongtacular wrote: It’s very fucking simple actually:

With Goku gone nobody would be able to stop Buu.
Buu with IT can jump from planet to planet, destroying them.
Over time, the universe will be devoid of life, ergo “destroyed”.

Universe busting would equal physically destroying the entire universe with one single attack. The notion that Buu could do this is just completely and utterly retarded.

If he could do that, he wouldn’t need to fight Goku or anyone else, he could just universe bust and have the entire thing over and done with in two seconds.

No.

Buu was going to destroy the universe in the anime via collapsing dimensions into one another. What you are saying is rubbish, and not what is shown.



I don’t give two shits about your retarded non-canon shit, you stupid fucking ballsucker.


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MysticPhilosopher wrote:

mr sonprime wrote: so we all agre NONcanon buuhan is a universe buster and canon buuhan is not so that means gt follows power scaleing from him being a univere buster thanx by



Not through ki. Only through some strange reality warping power (the yelling) that wouldn’t be much help against very powerful opponents.

And GT power scaling makes no sense anyway.



^This

Boo cant destroy several galaxies with chi alone. He’s going to have to use some other method like reality warping.


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LJF Game 2.0 wrote: Canon Buuhan isn’t even a galaxy buster.

Canon DBZ if far weaker than its non-canon anime counter part. Frankly, I think only the non-canon anime should be used for vs forum. Why use the weakest version?

Manga BuuHan isn’t even a galaxy buster, fail.

But anime BuuHan was going to destroy the damn universe.

I say people should just start using the anime only, and specifying it in the title.


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GodHandTheWorld wrote:

LJF Game 2.0 wrote: Canon Buuhan isn’t even a galaxy buster.

Canon DBZ if far weaker than its non-canon anime counter part. Frankly, I think only the non-canon anime should be used for vs forum. Why use the weakest version?

Manga BuuHan isn’t even a galaxy buster, fail.

But anime BuuHan was going to destroy the damn universe.

I say people should just start using the anime only, and specifying it in the title.


It’s not even the official source, and it’s not our fault TOEI made the anime stronger. Should we not use what’s canon? If we just used the strong things, you realize that is just asking for “lol Wonder Woman rips Vegeto in half because of 12 obscure showings and everything else doesn’t count” arguments right?


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GodHandTheWorld wrote:

LJF Game 2.0 wrote: Canon Buuhan isn’t even a galaxy buster.

Canon DBZ if far weaker than its non-canon anime counter part. Frankly, I think only the non-canon anime should be used for vs forum. Why use the weakest version?

Manga BuuHan isn’t even a galaxy buster, fail.

But anime BuuHan was going to destroy the damn universe.

I say people should just start using the anime only, and specifying it in the title.

Exactly why people like to use non-canon cop outs.

DBZ would be tearing new holes for a lot of the people they are put up against. Especially comic book characters.


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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote:

LJF Game 2.0 wrote: Canon Buuhan isn’t even a galaxy buster.

Canon DBZ if far weaker than its non-canon anime counter part. Frankly, I think only the non-canon anime should be used for vs forum. Why use the weakest version?

Manga BuuHan isn’t even a galaxy buster, fail.

But anime BuuHan was going to destroy the damn universe.

I say people should just start using the anime only, and specifying it in the title.


It’s not even the official source, and it’s not our fault TOEI made the anime stronger. Should we not use what’s canon? If we just used the strong things, you realize that is just asking for “lol Wonder Woman rips Vegeto in half because of 12 obscure showings and everything else doesn’t count” arguments right?

And then this.

Everyone will have to use amped versions of their favorite characters.


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So I guess this means we will now start using galaxy busting Broly, galaxy busting Kid Boo, multi-galaxy busting Super Boohan, solar system busting Cell, planet busting Vegeta, multi-planet busting King Vegeta, universal level Janemba and more.


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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote:

LJF Game 2.0 wrote: Canon Buuhan isn’t even a galaxy buster.

Canon DBZ if far weaker than its non-canon anime counter part. Frankly, I think only the non-canon anime should be used for vs forum. Why use the weakest version?

Manga BuuHan isn’t even a galaxy buster, fail.

But anime BuuHan was going to destroy the damn universe.

I say people should just start using the anime only, and specifying it in the title.


It’s not even the official source, and it’s not our fault TOEI made the anime stronger. Should we not use what’s canon? If we just used the strong things, you realize that is just asking for “lol Wonder Woman rips Vegeto in half because of 12 obscure showings and everything else doesn’t count” arguments right?

Thing is, DBZ doesn’t have stronger fighters jobbing. Shit like bus lifting and rocks hurting are gag scenes, not fight scenes, huge difference. Goku’s never going to get taken out by a regular human in combat.

So, from now on I’m going to start using only the non-canon anime, but I’ll specify it in my thread titles. There, problem solved. No non-canon cop outs.

OP’s rules, right?


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10-31-2010 01:41 PM
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I actually think it’s good that we can’t use the anime and movies.

GT Goku tears movie Goku a new asshole who tears anime Goku a new asshole who tears manga Goku a new asshole who already tears a shitload, about 90%, of anime and comic characters a new asshole.

Super Buu and SSJ3 Gotenks are not reality warpers, they busted a hole in the dimensions through sheer power alone.

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The only people who complain about the anime being non-canon are butthurt comic wankers that can’t stand to see their favorite characters getting raped over and over again.

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Tyrant wrote: The only people who complain about the anime being non-canon are butthurt comic wankers that can’t stand to see their favorite characters getting raped over and over again.

So then just specify that you’re using the “non-canon anime”. Shut those faggots up. Your thread your rules. They wont be able to say shit. Also, even in the fillers you don’t have SSJ3 Goku losing to fucking Yamucha.


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