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Karate vs. Kung-Fu vs. Taekwondo

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12-04-2008 08:25 PM
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3 different styles/forms of Martial Arts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung-Fu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taekwondo

The question is: Which one is more superior?
I side with Karate.

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Each of them specializes in different things.

You must master all three to be truly great at Martial Arts.


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Kung Fu because of Wing Chun.

Edited 12-04-2008 08:36 PM by Machiavelli
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12-04-2008 08:44 PM
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LordMarluxia wrote: Each of them specializes in different things.

You must master all three to be truly great at Martial Arts.


Yes, you are correct about that(my old man told me that 3 years back). It’s just to ask anyone’s opinion about what technique is best to learn alone.

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Axl the reploid 2.0 wrote:

LordMarluxia wrote: Each of them specializes in different things.

You must master all three to be truly great at Martial Arts.


Yes, you are correct about that(my old man told me that 3 years back). It’s just to ask anyone’s opinion about what technique is best to learn alone.



You gotta master a lot more than just those styles to be good. lol Or you can master just one style and be good too. Chung Moo Doe mixes many different styles of martial arts along with many different weapons.

Anyway, Tae Kwon do and Karate are too linear.

Kung Fu is more rounded and was practiced by Shaolin Monks, Buddhist Monks, and so forth. Kung Fu incorporates many many many different styles of fighting while Tae Kwon Doe and Karate are very limited.

Kung Fu also allows you to really center your chi and actually use energy (Nae Gong) in attacks. I’ve studied many different forms and Kung Fu is far beyond tae kwon doe and karate.

Hope this helps. smiley


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Depends on the Karate, Kyokushin is versatile, having nice take downs and a good stand up stance. Sanshou is pretty nice, as well, having elements of grappling and take-downs, and solid striking. TKD isn’t that great, imo.

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Braise wrote: Depends on the Karate, Kyokushin is versatile, having nice take downs and a good stand up stance. Sanshou is pretty nice, as well, having elements of grappling and take-downs, and solid striking. TKD isn’t that great, imo.



I agree, its not. lol Too linear, too much with the legs, not enough versatility.

Kung Fu just has soooooooooooo many different elements and styles. “Tiger” is extremely powerful. Here’s a sample of some of the best kungfu and fight choreography you will ever see.


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supersaynboy wrote:

Axl the reploid 2.0 wrote:

LordMarluxia wrote: Each of them specializes in different things.

You must master all three to be truly great at Martial Arts.


Yes, you are correct about that(my old man told me that 3 years back). It’s just to ask anyone’s opinion about what technique is best to learn alone.



You gotta master a lot more than just those styles to be good. lol Or you can master just one style and be good too. Chung Moo Doe mixes many different styles of martial arts along with many different weapons.

Anyway, Tae Kwon do and Karate are too linear.

Kung Fu is more rounded and was practiced by Shaolin Monks, Buddhist Monks, and so forth. Kung Fu incorporates many many many different styles of fighting while Tae Kwon Doe and Karate are very limited.

Kung Fu also allows you to really center your chi and actually use energy (Nae Gong) in attacks. I’ve studied many different forms and Kung Fu is far beyond tae kwon doe and karate.

Hope this helps. smiley



Wow. That’s pretty arrogant. Far beyond? Sir, the Gracie’s would like to have a word with you.



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Braise wrote:

supersaynboy wrote:

Axl the reploid 2.0 wrote:

LordMarluxia wrote: Each of them specializes in different things.

You must master all three to be truly great at Martial Arts.


Yes, you are correct about that(my old man told me that 3 years back). It’s just to ask anyone’s opinion about what technique is best to learn alone.



You gotta master a lot more than just those styles to be good. lol Or you can master just one style and be good too. Chung Moo Doe mixes many different styles of martial arts along with many different weapons.

Anyway, Tae Kwon do and Karate are too linear.

Kung Fu is more rounded and was practiced by Shaolin Monks, Buddhist Monks, and so forth. Kung Fu incorporates many many many different styles of fighting while Tae Kwon Doe and Karate are very limited.

Kung Fu also allows you to really center your chi and actually use energy (Nae Gong) in attacks. I’ve studied many different forms and Kung Fu is far beyond tae kwon doe and karate.

Hope this helps. smiley



Wow. That’s pretty arrogant. Far beyond? Sir, the Gracie’s would like to have a word with you.





Bro, NONE of the Gracie’s could jump off a ten story building and live. lol

GrandMaster Iron Kim, founder of Chung Moo Doe did it twice and survived without injury. Check out his achievements. He’s amazing.

Sorry, don’t mean to be arrogant. I’ve studied martial arts for 16+ years. And Kung Fu and its elements have been the best styles I have encountered and learned and have been most effective with physically, mentally and especially spiritually. You can only go so far with karate and tae kwon do.

Kung Fu is limitless.


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Come on dude! YOu’re gonna tell me Gracie would take Bruce Lee?

It wouldn’t even be close.

But I have MAD respect for the Gracies and what they have done for martial arts.

GrandMaster Iron Kim just possessed super human like abilities. Im serious. Do some research. I remember when he pulled a van by a cable with his teeth, and at the same time with his left arm, was pulling a car attached by a cable.

Look up Nae Gong Energy. Its really cool stuff.


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12-05-2008 10:51 AM
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I’d tied in between karate and kung-fu here. But I guess karate is sort of my choice mainly because I was first borned to learned that in my earliest age.

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Karate is a defensive style that capitalizes on mistakes being made by the opponent. Although it has the greatest chance of winning against the other styles it is hardly as effective if it is forced to attack


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Chaos Theory wrote: Karate is a defensive style that capitalizes on mistakes being made by the opponent. Although it has the greatest chance of winning against the other styles it is hardly as effective if it is forced to attack



I’m pretty sure TKD is a defensive style as well.

By looks, Kung-Fu seems the 'coolest.'


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LordMarluxia wrote:

Chaos Theory wrote: Karate is a defensive style that capitalizes on mistakes being made by the opponent. Although it has the greatest chance of winning against the other styles it is hardly as effective if it is forced to attack



I’m pretty sure TKD is a defensive style as well.

By looks, Kung-Fu seems the 'coolest.'


I wasn’t sure about the other styles but I digress yes Kung Fu looks the coolest of teh three


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It all depends who’s faster and more adept at offense and defense.


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supersaynboy wrote: Come on dude! YOu’re gonna tell me Gracie would take Bruce Lee?

It wouldn’t even be close.

But I have MAD respect for the Gracies and what they have done for martial arts.

GrandMaster Iron Kim just possessed super human like abilities. Im serious. Do some research. I remember when he pulled a van by a cable with his teeth, and at the same time with his left arm, was pulling a car attached by a cable.

Look up Nae Gong Energy. Its really cool stuff.



I don’t think the Gracies could take on Lee. But its not because of their art styles, its because Bruce was simply a beast. That dude was FAST, and his punches hurt. Bad. Not to mention he was well rounded overall (did greco-wrestling and western fencing), obsessively studied MAs, and constantly reinvented his diet. He was a dedicated athlete. Anyhow, Kung fu is a general term designating chinese martial arts, while Karate is a distinct martial style with several variations, and TKD is a very specific Korean Martial art. You can see why it’s hard to compare them. I think sanda is high up there with kyokushin. I’m interested in seeing real Lei Tai, though. You know, the real matches in folk China. Those should be interesting.

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This is unfair. There are many more forms of what we call Kung Fu than there are of Karate or TKD.

Karate has a lot of open defenses in it’s hand techniques, such as chambered punches, and it would be true to say that TKDs kicking techniques leave it open. Many Kung Fu styles also possess deficiencies in stance and defense, having decayed into a more art-like form from an original effective fighting technique. However, many Kung Fu styles are more simple and straight forward. The Shaolin Monks master many art like forms, such as the five form animal styles, but they also have a more effective fighting technique that is similar to Muay Thai. I forget the name at the moment though(San Shou?).

Anyway, I’m going to say Kung Fu, and on top of that, it’s the most pleasing of the three in a visual sense.


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Chaos Theory wrote: Karate is a defensive style that capitalizes on mistakes being made by the opponent. Although it has the greatest chance of winning against the other styles it is hardly as effective if it is forced to attack



Karate does NOT have the greatest chance of winning against Kung Fu, against Tae Kwon Doe, I agree, but not Kung Fu.

A Master in Karate would lose against a Master in Kung Fu.


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supersaynboy wrote:

Chaos Theory wrote: Karate is a defensive style that capitalizes on mistakes being made by the opponent. Although it has the greatest chance of winning against the other styles it is hardly as effective if it is forced to attack



Karate does NOT have the greatest chance of winning against Kung Fu, against Tae Kwon Doe, I agree, but not Kung Fu.

A Master in Karate would lose against a Master in Kung Fu.


Very probable in a likely case


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Mola Ramm wrote: This is unfair. There are many more forms of what we call Kung Fu than there are of Karate or TKD.

Karate has a lot of open defenses in it’s hand techniques, such as chambered punches, and it would be true to say that TKDs kicking techniques leave it open. Many Kung Fu styles also possess deficiencies in stance and defense, having decayed into a more art-like form from an original effective fighting technique. However, many Kung Fu styles are more simple and straight forward. The Shaolin Monks master many art like forms, such as the five form animal styles, but they also have a more effective fighting technique that is similar to Muay Thai. I forget the name at the moment though(San Shou?).

Anyway, I’m going to say Kung Fu, and on top of that, it’s the most pleasing of the three in a visual sense.


Agreed.


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