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Who’s the strongest opponent Kenshiro can take on?

Kenshiro’s from the brutal martial arts manga, Fist of the North Star.

He’s a bit broken for some manga that’s below DBZ since most of his fights tend to be curbstomps in his favor.

He has Musou Tensei, which makes himself intangable, insane durability, and his broken pressure point techniques.

In case you don’t know, here’s a picture of him:


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dont forget the dbz cast dont need to touch him to kill him, they can blast him away


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Well, according to this thread:

http://lounge.moviecodec.com/testing/krillin-vs-kenshiro-73684/10

Kenshiro >>> Krillin. I wanted to post Krillin feats, but the thread’s locked. I’m not so sure if Kenshiro would beat Krillin that easily.

Krillin feats:

Kills a few Raditz level Saibamen:

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v18/c011/2.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v18/c012/2.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v18/c012/4.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v18/c012/5.html

Almost kills Nappa:

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v19/c005/9.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v19/c005/10.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v19/c005/11.html

Almost kills Vegeta:

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v21/c001/8.html

This is the same Vegeta that curbstomps Goku:

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v20/c236/last.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v20/c237/2.html

And Gohan:

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v20/c242/10.html

And lol Yajirobe:

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v20/c241/12.html

Krillin’s Kaizen tags Frieza’s Second Form. If Frieza didn’t get out the way, Krillin would have won:

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v25/c011/3.html

This was the same Frieza that was stomping Gohan:

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v25/c011/2.html

Krillin holds his own against Frieza:

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v25/c011/6.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v25/c011/7.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v25/c011/9.html

Vegeta lets Killin ki blast him and Krillin almost kills Vegeta. o_O

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v26/c003/11.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v26/c003/14.html

In the Frieza Saga, they both get pwnd by Frieza, but Krillin at least cut Frieza’s tail off while Vegeta was being a chicken.

In other words: Krillin = Vegeta (Frieza Saga)

If we rank the non-saiyan DBZ fighters, they would be:

Mr. Buu
Tien
Piccolo
18
Krillin
Yamcha
Yajoribe
Master Roshi
Chaotzu

Beating Krillin would mean Kenshiro’s stronger than the following:

Vegeta (Saiyan Saga)
Nappa
Raditz
Ginyu Force
Kui
Zarbon
Dodoria
Yamcha
Yajoribe
Master Roshi
Chaotzu


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In other words, it’s safe to say that Krillin can take on Kenshiro. The problem is, the non-saiyan fighters get outclassed during and after the Cell Games arec. :[


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I don’t wanna sound like a nit picker but didn’t Vegeta have to weaken himself in order for Krillin to hurt him?


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That match was not decided.


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Chronic The Hedgehog wrote: I don’t wanna sound like a nit picker but didn’t Vegeta have to weaken himself in order for Krillin to hurt him?



True, but Cell did the same thing when Krillin attacked him, and it didn’t do a thing. That’s shows how strong Krillin is.


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Kaoru Hanayama wrote:

Chronic The Hedgehog wrote: I don’t wanna sound like a nit picker but didn’t Vegeta have to weaken himself in order for Krillin to hurt him?



True, but Cell did the same thing when Krillin attacked him, and it didn’t do a thing. That’s shows how strong Krillin is.



Good point.


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Indalecio wrote: That match was not decided.



Yeah, but it was locked. :[

That’s why I posted Krillin’s feats here to see how Kenshiro would measure up to DBZ.

Chronic The Hedgehog wrote: Good point.



Yeah, Cell let Krillin attack him since he knew that it wouldn’t do anything. :[


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Kaoru Hanayama wrote:

Indalecio wrote: That match was not decided.



Yeah, but it was locked. :[

That’s why I posted Krillin’s feats here to see how Kenshiro would measure up to DBZ.

Chronic The Hedgehog wrote: Good point.



Yeah, Cell let Krillin attack him since he knew that it wouldn’t do anything. :[



I think Vegeta said something about weakening himself though but eh it’s whatever Krillin is awesome though I wish he’d have gotten more glory towards the end of the manga/anime.


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Chronic The Hedgehog wrote: I think Vegeta said something about weakening himself though but eh it’s whatever Krillin is awesome though I wish he’d have gotten more glory towards the end of the manga/anime.



That’s the thing though. The non-saiyan fighters didn’t get much stronger since only the saiyans get zenkai boosts ie get stronger after being healed from battles. Humans don’t get powerups from near death since their lucky to even be alive in the first place.


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Kaoru Hanayama wrote:

Chronic The Hedgehog wrote: I think Vegeta said something about weakening himself though but eh it’s whatever Krillin is awesome though I wish he’d have gotten more glory towards the end of the manga/anime.



That’s the thing though. The non-saiyan fighters didn’t get much stronger since only the saiyans get zenkai boosts ie get stronger after being healed from battles. Humans don’t get powerups from near death since their lucky to even be alive in the first place.



Yeah but still I mean they could get stronger from training I mean it takes them longer than the saiyans for sure but idk it honestly wouldn’t have bothered me if Toriyama pulled out a plot device in order to make the humans stronger because some of the more awesome characters got thrown to the wayside.


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Chronic The Hedgehog wrote: Yeah but still I mean they could get stronger from training I mean it takes them longer than the saiyans for sure but idk it honestly wouldn’t have bothered me if Toriyama pulled out a plot device in order to make the humans stronger because some of the more awesome characters got thrown to the wayside.



Yeah, like Tien and Piccolo for instance. Past Cell Games saga, they became jobbers, as well as the other human fighters. :[


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Kaoru Hanayama wrote:

Chronic The Hedgehog wrote: Yeah but still I mean they could get stronger from training I mean it takes them longer than the saiyans for sure but idk it honestly wouldn’t have bothered me if Toriyama pulled out a plot device in order to make the humans stronger because some of the more awesome characters got thrown to the wayside.



Yeah, like Tien and Piccolo for instance. Past Cell Games saga, they became jobbers, as well as the other human fighters. :[



I know I mean shit they couldn’t have at least made Piccolo on par with the saiyans. I heard that Piccolo was originally supposed to be taken over by Babidi instead of Vegeta.


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Chronic The Hedgehog wrote: I know I mean shit they couldn’t have at least made Piccolo on par with the saiyans.



He was on par with the saiyans in the Frieza Saga and Android Saga at least. After that...

I heard that Piccolo was originally supposed to be taken over by Babidi instead of Vegeta.



Majin Piccolo!!!! XD


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Yeah that would have been awesome I also think that they should have had him reunite with Piccolo Daimao.


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Ignore that thread, everyone with a brain figured Krillin would beat the shit out of Kenshiro.

Go2movies was really butthurt during that time period because Krillin was given odds over Wonder Woman AND Kenshiro was also given odds over Wonder Woman.

And, thus, went on a meltdown of epic proportions.


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Ravishing Moses Rude wrote: Ignore that thread, everyone with a brain figured Krillin would beat the shit out of Kenshiro.

Go2movies was really butthurt during that time period because Krillin was given odds over Wonder Woman AND Kenshiro was also given odds over Wonder Woman.

And, thus, went on a meltdown of epic proportions.



I agree with you on this, but how would you rank Kenshiro in Dragonball Z?

Like I posted above, if Kenshiro can beat Krillin it means that he’s on par with Frieza, even though Frieza blows up planets with a pinky. o_O


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Well, I think Kenshiro would rank pretty high were it not for the Z-senshi’s high end and efficient use of Superspeed and long range energy attacks. So he’d probably be the top guy until the King Piccolo arc.


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Ravishing Moses Rude wrote: Well, I think Kenshiro would rank pretty high were it not for the Z-senshi’s high end and efficient use of Superspeed and long range energy attacks. So he’d probably be the top guy until the King Piccolo arc.



I think he can beat King Piccolo at least, since he has Musou Tensei. That would make him top tier Dragonball at least.

In DBZ, however, there’s no way he’ll beat Krillin. Krillin’s not that weak, it’s just that everyone else blows up planets with their finger. Krillin just got surpassed too quickly, that’s all.


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