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Sounds like what Kid Goku did in the preliminary rounds. Regardless, Krillin was just a kid then. By the time Saiyan saga rolls around, he would be even faster. Kenshiro has skill, and really nice abilities, I will give him that, but we have martial arts masters like Master Roshi who I’m sure taught Krillin how to guard against attacks to the pressure points. If he didn’t, I’m sure Kami did. Anyways, if you want me to find the scan of Kami casually flicking an angry Kid Goku I can.

We also have Goku, not meaning to, holding back even, knock ChiChi away with just the AIR from his punches. ChiChi is no pushover(In comparison to normal people of course)

Also, IIRC, Ken is at the disadvantage of not being able to fly. I’m sure people like Raditz, who is a mountain buster at the very least(We see Piccolo, the same night afterwards, blow up a moon casually with no charge time) would beat Kenshiro.



Actually it’s possible Kenshiro can fly since he fought Souther who could, but he’s never actually done it so I don’t know. But Kenshiro’s got Musou Tensei, which makes him intangible and seeing how DBZ fighters like to fight up close, they’ll be at a disadvantage as that’s how Ken normally fights.


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Sounds like what Kid Goku did in the preliminary rounds. Regardless, Krillin was just a kid then. By the time Saiyan saga rolls around, he would be even faster. Kenshiro has skill, and really nice abilities, I will give him that, but we have martial arts masters like Master Roshi who I’m sure taught Krillin how to guard against attacks to the pressure points. If he didn’t, I’m sure Kami did. Anyways, if you want me to find the scan of Kami casually flicking an angry Kid Goku I can.

We also have Goku, not meaning to, holding back even, knock ChiChi away with just the AIR from his punches. ChiChi is no pushover(In comparison to normal people of course)

Also, IIRC, Ken is at the disadvantage of not being able to fly. I’m sure people like Raditz, who is a mountain buster at the very least(We see Piccolo, the same night afterwards, blow up a moon casually with no charge time) would beat Kenshiro.



Actually it’s possible Kenshiro can fly since he fought Souther who could, but he’s never actually done it so I don’t know. But Kenshiro’s got Musou Tensei, which makes him intangible and seeing how DBZ fighters like to fight up close, they’ll be at a disadvantage as that’s how Ken normally fights.


So it’s just an assumption he can? That’s fine and dandy, about the intangibility thing, but DBZ characters also usually fight all over the place. I’ll give you that Ken can avoid harm with intangibility, but Krillin could as well with rapid zooming movements and flying in the air.


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How? He’s aiming for the head. He doesn’t even know if Krillin’s going to dodge, parry with his forearm or simply catch the fist. He has no way of even calculating the exact location as to where Krillin will actually throw his arm. You’re just talking out your ass now.



Again, he doesn’t have to always aim for the head. He can aim at almost anywhere. If Krillin goes on the offense (in which he normally does) and try attacking Ken, Ken will catch him off guard (he’s got fast reaction speed) and strike his pressure points.


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Indalecio wrote:
So it’s just an assumption he can? That’s fine and dandy, about the intangibility thing, but DBZ characters also usually fight all over the place. I’ll give you that Ken can avoid harm with intangibility, but Krillin could as well with rapid zooming movements and flying in the air.



It is an assumption but I’m not gonna say he can because he’s never actually done it. As for Krillin’s speed, that can’t last too long. If Ken’s not using Musou Tensei, he would sense Krillin’s movements and counter.


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How? He’s aiming for the head. He doesn’t even know if Krillin’s going to dodge, parry with his forearm or simply catch the fist. He has no way of even calculating the exact location as to where Krillin will actually throw his arm. You’re just talking out your ass now.



Again, he doesn’t have to always aim for the head. He can aim at almost anywhere. If Krillin goes on the offense (in which he normally does) and try attacking Ken, Ken will catch him off guard (he’s got fast reaction speed) and strike his pressure points.



No, son, he won’t.

For one, if Krillin goes on offense, that the end for Kenshiro. Krillin’s faster and hits significantly harder.

For two, if he goes on the offense, Krillin can easily block and parry all his attacks and end him in a single hit.

Kenshiro would be a good Piccolo Jr. arc level fighter.


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No, son, he won’t.

For one, if Krillin goes on offense, that the end for Kenshiro. Krillin’s faster and hits significantly harder.

For two, if he goes on the offense, Krillin can easily block and parry all his attacks and end him in a single hit.

Kenshiro would be a good Piccolo Jr. arc level fighter.



Bull crap. Krillin’s got no punching feats or any kind of deadly techniques that can match Ken’s.

You really don’t know much about Kenshiro, do you? You gotta be crazy to think Krillin can take out Kenshiro in one punch. There’s no way Krillin can punch harder than Kenshiro. No proof of that at all.


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No punching feats? He one hit ko’d one of Frieza’s goons when he got off the ship on Namek. The same goons who thought that the Nameks were wimps with their Raditz level surpressed fighting power. By the end of the series, he’s powerful enough to do the same to Nappa level fighters. That’s WAYYYYY too much for Kenshiro.


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No, son, he won’t.

For one, if Krillin goes on offense, that the end for Kenshiro. Krillin’s faster and hits significantly harder.

For two, if he goes on the offense, Krillin can easily block and parry all his attacks and end him in a single hit.

Kenshiro would be a good Piccolo Jr. arc level fighter.



Bull crap. Krillin’s got no punching feats or any kind of deadly techniques that can match Ken’s.

You really don’t know much about Kenshiro, do you? You gotta be crazy to think Krillin can take out Kenshiro in one punch. There’s no way Krillin can punch harder than Kenshiro. No proof of that at all.


No deadly techs? How about the Destructo Disc? That would cleave him in half.


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Ravishing Moses Rude wrote: No punching feats? He one hit ko’d one of Frieza’s goons when he got off the ship on Namek. The same goons who thought that the Nameks were wimps with their Raditz level surpressed fighting power. By the end of the series, he’s powerful enough to do the same to Nappa level fighters. That’s WAYYYYY too much for Kenshiro.



How do you know it was “Raditz surpressing” fighting power? And even if it was, explain why is that so impressive? Kenshiro can beat Raditz too.

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No deadly techs? How about the Destructo Disc? That would cleave him in half.



I was talking about up-close.


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How do you know it was “Raditz surpressing” fighting power?



Because the scouters read 1000.

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Kenshiro can beat Raditz too.



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Because the scouters read 1000.



Which wasn’t Raditz level.

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lol no.



lol yes.


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Which wasn’t Raditz level.



Holy crap a 17% power difference, you’re right, they weren’t.


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lol yes.



Well, that’s your asinine opinion. It’s not based on fact or anything resembling such, more or less, your irrational agenda against Dragonball.


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Well, that’s your asinine opinion. It’s not based on fact or anything resembling such, more or less, your irrational agenda against Dragonball.



No, it’s based on feats from both of them.


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Kenshiro is a push-over he doesn’t have what it takes to take on son-goku or even vegeta, if he can’t get past ubuu, gohan, trunks he’s a complete push over, all the hype about his thousand crack fist is full of it.


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D.W. wrote: Kenshiro is a push-over he doesn’t have what it takes to take on son-goku or even vegeta, if he can’t get past ubuu, gohan, trunks he’s a complete push over, all the hype about his thousand crack fist is full of it.



Nobody’s saying he can beat Goku or Gohan or Trunks(well it is a possibility he can beat Trunks) but he’s darn sure not a pushover. Don’t underestimate him because his world isn’t full of that “planet busting” mess. Kenshiro is one powerful dude.


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Well, that’s your asinine opinion. It’s not based on fact or anything resembling such, more or less, your irrational agenda against Dragonball.



No, it’s based on feats from both of them.




Liar.


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D.W. wrote: Kenshiro is a push-over he doesn’t have what it takes to take on son-goku or even vegeta, if he can’t get past ubuu, gohan, trunks he’s a complete push over, all the hype about his thousand crack fist is full of it.



Nobody’s saying he can beat Goku or Gohan or Trunks(well it is a possibility he can beat Trunks) but he’s darn sure not a pushover. Don’t underestimate him because his world isn’t full of that “planet busting” mess. Kenshiro is one powerful dude.



He’s a pushover compared to the main fighters on Dragonball.


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Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

Liar.



No it’s true.

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He’s a pushover compared to the main fighters on Dragonball.



Prove it.


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He can’t even defeat Raditz, that’s chump shit.


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Ravishing Moses Rude wrote: He can’t even defeat Raditz, that’s chump shit.



Yes he can. If you think otherwise then prove it.


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