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I know he isn’t a normal human. But Raditz is thousands of time stronger than normal humans.


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Go2movies wrote:

Nobody said that a pressure point strike to the face is gonna activate one in the arm. I was going by what YOU said (using an arm or hand to block it). Idiot.



Okay, now that you’re done making an ass out of yourself, do you finally agree that Raditz can easily block all of Kenshiro’s punches?

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I got nothing against DBZ.




Sure you do, namely, the Z cast being more powerful than your favorite characters. It’s why you’re saying such stupid things.


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Raditz slow lol im mean in DBZ standars yeah but the guy can easily grab bullets out of the air. Not only that fire them back. How do you catch a bullet by reacting faster then the bullet. He was shown to move even faster in his fight with Goku and Piccolo.
And as for the pressure point attack it can be blocked go learn how to do them yourself try it on someone and see if they cant block or perry it.

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pola wrote: Raditz slow lol im mean in DBZ standars yeah but the guy can easily grab bullets out of the air. Not only that fire them back. How do you catch a bullet by reacting faster then the bullet. He was shown to move even faster in his fight with Goku and Piccolo.
And as for the pressure point attack it can be blocked go learn how to do them yourself try it on someone and see if they cant block or perry it.


A better example would be Master Roshi casually catching machine gun ammo with little effort or Goku dodging multiple machine gun fire with little effort in the beginning of the series and Raditz being many many many times faster.


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Indalecio wrote: I know he isn’t a normal human. But Raditz is thousands of time stronger than normal humans.



I wouldn’t say he’s a “thousands of time stronger” but he is definitely stronger.


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Go2movies wrote:

Indalecio wrote: I know he isn’t a normal human. But Raditz is thousands of time stronger than normal humans.



I wouldn’t say he’s a “thousands of time stronger” but he is definitely stronger.


I would. They said Kami was 1000x stronger than King Piccolo. Kami casually flicked a angry Kid Goku who beat King Piccolo away. I’d say that Raditz is pretty much thousands of times stronger.


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Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

Okay, now that you’re done making an ass out of yourself, do you finally agree that Raditz can easily block all of Kenshiro’s punches?



No I don’t and I wasn’t making an ass out of myself either.

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Sure you do, namely, the Z cast being more powerful than your favorite characters. It’s why you’re saying such stupid things.



Just because I know when they’re not stronger than certain characters (unlike you), doesn’t mean I got something against them.

pola wrote: And as for the pressure point attack it can be blocked go learn how to do them yourself try it on someone and see if they cant block or perry it.



Parrying it is one thing, blocking it is another and unless they got some kind of object, it’s highly unlikely they’ll be able block without getting their arm or hand or whatever kind of body part stuck...because that’s exactly what pressure point attacks are suppose to hit; body parts.


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Go2movies wrote:

No I don’t



Care to explain why?

Go2movies wrote:
Just because I know when they’re not stronger than certain characters (unlike you), doesn’t mean I got something against them.



Oh, I know when they’re not stronger than certain characters, you clearly just have an agenda against Z. It’s why, on this board full of people more than willing to argue against Moses and Z, you’re the only one with this opinion that Kenshiro can defeat Raditz.

Go2movies wrote:
unlikely they’ll be able block without getting their arm or hand or whatever kind of body part stuck



So what you’re saying is, if Kenshiro throws a punch aimed at a pressure point in the neck, and Raditz blocks this punch with his arm, Kenshiro will, somehow, hit a pressure point in it, by aiming for one in the neck?

Really, I think it all comes down to your agenda against Z, the fact that you’re stupid, and not knowing what you’re talking about (which goes back to the whole, you being an idiot thing).

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Moses Morrison wrote:

Care to explain why?



Kenshiro is a much faster puncher, in addition to the fact that Raditz never experience pressure point attacks.

Moses Morrison wrote:

Oh, I know when they’re not stronger than certain characters, you clearly just have an agenda against Z. It’s why, on this board full of people more than willing to argue against Moses and Z, you’re the only one with this opinion that Kenshiro can defeat Raditz.



Then again, there’s hardly anybody arguing this subject either.

Moses Morrison wrote:

So what you’re saying is, if Kenshiro throws a punch aimed at a pressure point in the neck, and Raditz blocks this punch with his arm, Kenshiro will, somehow, hit a pressure point in it, by aiming for one in the neck?



If you saying “in it” as in referring to the arm, then yeah. You know you got pressure points in the arm too, right?

Moses Morrison wrote:
Really, I think it all comes down to your agenda against Z, the fact that you’re stupid, and not knowing what you’re talking about (which goes back to the whole, you being an idiot thing).



It’s clear you’ve lost the debate when you resort to insults and stupid trolling tactics.


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Go2movies wrote:

Kenshiro is a much faster puncher



Care to prove this?

Go2movies wrote:
in addition to the fact that Raditz never experience pressure point attacks.



Which is irrelevant. Also, the Z senshi have complete control of the ki in their body, and Hokuto no Shinken is manipulation of the ki in your body. There’s a chance that by focusing, they could even negate the effects of having their power points struck. Though, Ken’s not quick enough to do such.

Go2movies wrote:
Then again, there’s hardly anybody arguing this subject either.



Because it’s accepted that Kenshiro is 23rd Budokai level.

Go2movies wrote:
If you saying “in it” as in referring to the arm, then yeah. You know you got pressure points in the arm too, right?



And you’re too stupid to realize that aiming for a pressure point in the neck, chest, or head area will NOT activate one in the arm.

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It’s clear you’ve lost the debate when you resort to insults and stupid trolling tactics.




No, your stupidity is just frustrating, so I flame for the lulz and to let you know how I feel.


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Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

Care to prove this?



During his fight with Han, he was punching so fast he didn’t look like he was moving.

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

Which is irrelevant. Also, the Z senshi have complete control of the ki in their body, and Hokuto no Shinken is manipulation of the ki in your body. There’s a chance that by focusing, they could even negate the effects of having their power points struck. Though, Ken’s not quick enough to do such.



No, it’s relevant. He has no way to counter such attacks as he’s never experienced it so he has a disadvantage there. Also, I’m pretty all of Kenshiro’s opponent have complete control their ki too but that didn’t stop him from hitting their pressure points.

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Because it’s accepted that Kenshiro is 23rd Budokai level.



You can’t speak for everybody.

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
And you’re too stupid to realize that aiming for a pressure point in the neck, chest, or head area will NOT activate one in the arm.



Unfortunately, you got bad reading problems, as I never said anything like that.

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No, your stupidity is just frustrating, so I flame for the lulz and to let you know how I feel.



A petty excuse for someone who claims to be an adult.


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Go2movies wrote:

During his fight with Han, he was punching so fast he didn’t look like he was moving.



So he’s as fast as Goku and company in the 21st Budokai?

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No, it’s relevant. He has no way to counter such attacks



Yes, he does, it’s called moving his hand in the area of where Ken’s moving his hand. Or moving his body away from where Ken’s moving his body.

Go2movies wrote:
Unfortunately, you got bad reading problems, as I never said anything like that.



Yes, it is, it’s why you believe pressure point attacks cannot be blocked. You think that by throwing a punch aimed at the pressure point in the neck, Raditz will have a pressure point in his hand somehow activated by catching the punch and crushing Ken’s hand.

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A petty excuse for someone who claims to be an adult.



Who’s making excuses? Do you know what excuses are? I don’t care that you’re getting your feelings hurt over e-insults.


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Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

So he’s as fast as Goku and company in the 21st Budokai?



Nah, he’s faster.

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

Yes, he does, it’s called moving his hand in the area of where Ken’s moving his hand. Or moving his body away from where Ken’s moving his body.



But seeing how fast Kenshiro can punch, it’s highly unlikely he’ll do that for long.

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

Yes, it is, it’s why you believe pressure point attacks cannot be blocked. You think that by throwing a punch aimed at the pressure point in the neck, Raditz will have a pressure point in his hand somehow activated by catching the punch and crushing Ken’s hand.



You said nothing about catching his hand until now. Also, what makes you think Raditz is gonna catch Kenshiro’s hand? Chances are, Raditz will probably think it’s a regular punch (as do anyone who doesn’t know Hokuto Shinken), in addition to the fact that Raditz isn’t really that fast.

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Who’s making excuses? Do you know what excuses are? I don’t care that you’re getting your feelings hurt over e-insults.



Hey, my feelings aren’t hurt. You’re the one who’s mad because you can’t come up with any better arguments.


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Go2movies wrote:

Nah, he’s faster.



How?

Go2movies wrote:
But seeing how fast Kenshiro can punch, it’s highly unlikely he’ll do that for long.



Kenshiro doesn’t punch faster than Goku did at that point in the series, and Raditz managed to easily block himself and Piccolo’s double team.

Go2movies wrote:
You said nothing about catching his hand until now.



Which is no different from blocking with his arm or hand.

Go2movies wrote:
Also, what makes you think Raditz is gonna catch Kenshiro’s hand? Chances are, Raditz will probably think it’s a regular punch (as do anyone who doesn’t know Hokuto Shinken), in addition to the fact that Raditz isn’t really that fast.



If Raditz thinks it’s a regular punch, he’ll effortlessly dodge it and probably punch a hole in Ken. Or he’ll catch his fist, crush his hand, and punch his head off.

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Hey, my feelings aren’t hurt. You’re the one who’s mad because you can’t come up with any better arguments.



I’ve pretty much been raping you in this thread, I’d say I’m more annoyed with your mental ineptitude.


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Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

How?



Are you still referring to that joke moment? Because if you do, you know I don’t take that seriously.

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

Kenshiro doesn’t punch faster than Goku did at that point in the series, and Raditz managed to easily block himself and Piccolo’s double team.



Explain how Kenshiro doesn’t punch faster than Goku?

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

Which is no different from blocking with his arm or hand.



Not when it’s a pressure point strike.

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

If Raditz thinks it’s a regular punch, he’ll effortlessly dodge it and probably punch a hole in Ken. Or he’ll catch his fist, crush his hand, and punch his head off.



That would be really stupid if Raditz attempts punch back when a flurry of punches is coming at him. Plus, he has to have really go reaction to catch Kenshiro’s hand. Reaction that he’s never shown.

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
I’ve pretty much been raping you in this thread, I’d say I’m more annoyed with your mental ineptitude.



Just like the previous thread, you know you can’t come up with any good arguments and yet somehow deluded enough to think you’re winning.


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Go2movies wrote:

Are you still referring to that joke moment? Because if you do, you know I don’t take that seriously.



Okay, that’s cool and all, but they were still faster than the eye can see/zanzoken bullshit during that era. Roshi still was able to knock Krillin the fuck out initially without looking like he even moved.

Go2movies wrote:
Explain how Kenshiro doesn’t punch faster than Goku?



Well, in the 22nd Budokai, Goku managed to move his arms fast enough to fool people into thinking he had 4 arms and equal Tien’s 4 arm technique. Tien was no joke in the speed department either, btw.

Go2movies wrote:

Not when it’s a pressure point strike.



I’ve already fucked this point in the ass. A pressure point strike to the neck won’t activate one in the arm by it being blocked. You’re a fucking idiot. Yadda yadda yadda.

Go2movies wrote:
That would be really stupid if Raditz attempts punch back when a flurry of punches is coming at him.



Not really, Raditz managed to disrupt the flurry of punches unleashed at him by Piccolo and Goku at the same time with counter punches.


Go2movies wrote:
Plus, he has to have really go reaction to catch Kenshiro’s hand. Reaction that he’s never shown.



Uhhh, no, I doubt Kenshiro’s hands move faster than bullets, Raditz easily caught a bullet and moved his thumb fast enough to emulate a gunshot.


Go2movies wrote:
Just like the previous thread, you know you can’t come up with any good arguments and yet somehow deluded enough to think you’re winning.



Um, you’ve still failed to grasp what a pressure point attack even is. You’re really in no position to cry about myself pointing out that you’re getting fucked up in this thread.


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Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

Okay, that’s cool and all, but they were still faster than the eye can see/zanzoken bullshit during that era. Roshi still was able to knock Krillin the fuck out initially without looking like he even moved.



If you do wanna use that, Kenshiro once tied a whip so fast it he didn’t even move either.

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

Well, in the 22nd Budokai, Goku managed to move his arms fast enough to fool people into thinking he had 4 arms and equal Tien’s 4 arm technique. Tien was no joke in the speed department either, btw.



I remember that part. You’re kidding right? Kenshiro has basically been doing that every since the beginning of the series. His Hyakuretsu Ken is KNOWN for having rapid punches that looks like he has about 10 or something arms.

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
I’ve already fucked this point in the ass. A pressure point strike to the neck won’t activate one in the arm by it being blocked. You’re a fucking idiot. Yadda yadda yadda.



If you’re using your arm to block, the pressure point in it will get struck. How many freakin' times I gotta explain this to you?

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

Not really, Raditz managed to disrupt the flurry of punches unleashed at him by Piccolo and Goku at the same time with counter punches.



Umm no, he didn’t disrupt them. All he did was block and dodge.

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

Uhhh, no, I doubt Kenshiro’s hands move faster than bullets, Raditz easily caught a bullet and moved his thumb fast enough to emulate a gunshot.



So? It’s not like he’s gonna catch Kenshiro, especially since Ken’s can punch faster than him.


Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

Um, you’ve still failed to grasp what a pressure point attack even is. You’re really in no position to cry about myself pointing out that you’re getting fucked up in this thread.



I’m the one who’s constantly explaining to you how a pressure point attack work. You’re doing nothing being slow and can barely even stay on the subject. All of that is enough to show that YOU’RE the one who’s messed up, not me.


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Go2movies wrote:

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

Okay, that’s cool and all, but they were still faster than the eye can see/zanzoken bullshit during that era. Roshi still was able to knock Krillin the fuck out initially without looking like he even moved.



If you do wanna use that, Kenshiro once tied a whip so fast it he didn’t even move either.

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

Well, in the 22nd Budokai, Goku managed to move his arms fast enough to fool people into thinking he had 4 arms and equal Tien’s 4 arm technique. Tien was no joke in the speed department either, btw.



I remember that part. You’re kidding right? Kenshiro has basically been doing that every since the beginning of the series. His Hyakuretsu Ken is KNOWN for having rapid punches that looks like he has about 10 or something arms.

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
I’ve already fucked this point in the ass. A pressure point strike to the neck won’t activate one in the arm by it being blocked. You’re a fucking idiot. Yadda yadda yadda.



If you’re using your arm to block, the pressure point in it will get struck. How many freakin' times I gotta explain this to you?

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

Not really, Raditz managed to disrupt the flurry of punches unleashed at him by Piccolo and Goku at the same time with counter punches.



Umm no, he didn’t disrupt them. All he did was block and dodge.

Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:

Uhhh, no, I doubt Kenshiro’s hands move faster than bullets, Raditz easily caught a bullet and moved his thumb fast enough to emulate a gunshot.



So? It’s not like he’s gonna catch Kenshiro, especially since Ken’s can punch faster than him.


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Um, you’ve still failed to grasp what a pressure point attack even is. You’re really in no position to cry about myself pointing out that you’re getting fucked up in this thread.



I’m the one who’s constantly explaining to you how a pressure point attack work. You’re doing nothing being slow and can barely even stay on the subject. All of that is enough to show that YOU’RE the one who’s messed up, not me.




Acctualy you really dont seem to know anything about pressure points. Your basicly claiming its imposible to block one because they will just hit the pressure point in your arm or somewhere else. If pressure point attacks were that good every person that knows any matrial arts would spend everyday learning how to do these.

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pola wrote:

Acctualy you really dont seem to know anything about pressure points. Your basicly claiming its imposible to block one because they will just hit the pressure point in your arm or somewhere else. If pressure point attacks were that good every person that knows any matrial arts would spend everyday learning how to do these.



Only if pressure point attacks were that easy to use and master. In addition, obviously because it’s fictional, Hokuto Shinken and it’s users don’t hit pressure points in a realistic way so I think you’re a little confuse here.


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Go2movies wrote:

If you do wanna use that, Kenshiro once tied a whip so fast it he didn’t even move either.



Good job, you’ve successfully proven Kenshiro has 21st budokai speed. That’s substantially slower than Raditz, btw.

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I remember that part. You’re kidding right? Kenshiro has basically been doing that every since the beginning of the series. His Hyakuretsu Ken is KNOWN for having rapid punches that looks like he has about 10 or something arms.



Oh, so Kenshiro was moving around looking like an octopus like Goku was walking around looking like Goro? Or was he just punching 10x’s in a second?

Go2movies wrote:
If you’re using your arm to block, the pressure point in it will get struck.



No, it, won’t, you, fucking, retard. If you block a pressure point attack aimed at the neck it’s the same as blocking a normal punch at the neck.

Go2movies wrote:
How many freakin' times I gotta explain this to you?



Zero, you need to step back, and actually read the stupidity you’re typing. No fucking way are you THIS retarded, no way.

Go2movies wrote:
Umm no, he didn’t disrupt them. All he did was block and dodge.



He blocked, dodged, then punched them in the middle of their flurry stopping it.

Go2movies wrote:
So? It’s not like he’s gonna catch Kenshiro, especially since Ken’s can punch faster than him.



God you’re fucking retarded, you just asked for an instance of Raditz even catching something as fast as Kenshiro can throw punches, I give you an instance of him catching something faster easily and he still can’t catch Kenshiro.

Are you fucking trolling me? Seriously? I think you’re fucking trolling me. Because your stupidity is filling me with rage. I don’t normally get angry at stupidity, I laugh. Hahaha, hehehe, your stupidity is fucking pissing me off. You MUST be trolling me.


Go2movies wrote:
I’m the one who’s constantly explaining to you how a pressure point attack work.



No, you’re fucking explaining to me how big of a fuck up you are by repeatedly highlighting that you can’t even understand something as simple as a pressure point attack.


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All of that is enough to show that YOU’RE the one who’s messed up, not me.



No, u, lololol.

Fucking troll. After reading your posts I’ve deduced that you know you’re fucking wrong and are merely trolling me. It’s the only explanation, no human being can be this fucking dumb and this fucking dense.

However, if you aren’t, please do myself and my species a favor and off yourself. Jesus Christ, it’s amazing that you haven’t become a victim of survival of the fittest yet. Fucking idiot.


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