Okay, that’s cool and all, but they were still faster than the eye can see/zanzoken bullshit during that era. Roshi still was able to knock Krillin the fuck out initially without looking like he even moved.
If you do wanna use that, Kenshiro once tied a whip so fast it he didn’t even move either.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Well, in the 22nd Budokai, Goku managed to move his arms fast enough to fool people into thinking he had 4 arms and equal Tien’s 4 arm technique. Tien was no joke in the speed department either, btw.
I remember that part. You’re kidding right? Kenshiro has basically been doing that every since the beginning of the series. His Hyakuretsu Ken is KNOWN for having rapid punches that looks like he has about 10 or something arms.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
I’ve already fucked this point in the ass. A pressure point strike to the neck won’t activate one in the arm by it being blocked. You’re a fucking idiot. Yadda yadda yadda.
If you’re using your arm to block, the pressure point in it will get struck. How many freakin' times I gotta explain this to you?
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Not really, Raditz managed to disrupt the flurry of punches unleashed at him by Piccolo and Goku at the same time with counter punches.
Umm no, he didn’t disrupt them. All he did was block and dodge.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Uhhh, no, I doubt Kenshiro’s hands move faster than bullets, Raditz easily caught a bullet and moved his thumb fast enough to emulate a gunshot.
So? It’s not like he’s gonna catch Kenshiro, especially since Ken’s can punch faster than him.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Um, you’ve still failed to grasp what a pressure point attack even is. You’re really in no position to cry about myself pointing out that you’re getting fucked up in this thread.
I’m the one who’s constantly explaining to you how a pressure point attack work. You’re doing nothing being slow and can barely even stay on the subject. All of that is enough to show that YOU’RE the one who’s messed up, not me.
Acctualy you really dont seem to know anything about pressure points. Your basicly claiming its imposible to block one because they will just hit the pressure point in your arm or somewhere else. If pressure point attacks were that good every person that knows any matrial arts would spend everyday learning how to do these.
God, I had open up a photoshop to relentlessly mock your interpretation of pressure point attacks with stick figures to give you a visual on how retarded your stance is
but then I realized you’re fucking trolling me and want me to waste my time on that, and rather than being utterly humiliated, you’d actually be turned on by it. Fucking Troll.
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Good job, you’ve successfully proven Kenshiro has 21st budokai speed. That’s substantially slower than Raditz, btw.
...That was a comparison.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Oh, so Kenshiro was moving around looking like an octopus like Goku was walking around looking like Goro? Or was he just punching 10x’s in a second?
What’s the difference?
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
No, it, won’t, you, fucking, retard. If you block a pressure point attack aimed at the neck it’s the same as blocking a normal punch at the neck.
DUDE! It is NOT the same as blocking a regular punch! I explained this to you more than once. Stop ignoring what I’m telling you and actually pay attention for once.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Zero, you need to step back, and actually read the stupidity you’re typing. No fucking way are you THIS retarded, no way.
So you’re trolling some more, I see.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
He blocked, dodged, then punched them in the middle of their flurry stopping it.
You really need to stop lying. Seriously.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
God you’re fucking retarded, you just asked for an instance of Raditz even catching something as fast as Kenshiro can throw punches, I give you an instance of him catching something faster easily and he still can’t catch Kenshiro.
I did NOT ask for an instance. You simply just brought up one and it doesn’t compare to what I brought up.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
No, you’re fucking explaining to me how big of a fuck up you are by repeatedly highlighting that you can’t even understand something as simple as a pressure point attack.
I don’t understand? You’re the one who’s comparing it to regular punch and anyone who knows about pressure point attacks know that they AREN’T just regular punches. Plus, even YOU admitted that they’re mainly pokes, so how can you compare pokes aimed a certain points in the body to a regular punch? There’s hardly any comparison.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
No, u, lololol.
Fucking troll. After reading your posts I’ve deduced that you know you’re fucking wrong and are merely trolling me. It’s the only explanation, no human being can be this fucking dumb and this fucking dense.
You got a nerve calling someone else a troll when just about everyone here know that YOU’RE the troll. Everytime someone argue down your ridiculous, ignorant and bias arguments, you start throwing insults and that’s trolling.
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One is Goku moving his hands so fast, it appears as if he has 4 separate limbs. The other would be the equivalent of Master Roshi catching machine gun fire.
Go2movies wrote:
DUDE! It is NOT the same as blocking a regular punch!
Yes, it, is, you, fucking, retard.
Go2movies wrote:
So you’re trolling some more, I see.
No, your idiocy is just mind numbing.
Go2movies wrote:
You really need to stop lying. Seriously.
Go2movies wrote:
I did NOT ask for an instance. You simply just brought up one and it doesn’t compare to what I brought up.
You’re correct, you didn’t ask for an instance, you merely stated:
“Plus, he has to have really go reaction to catch Kenshiro’s hand. Reaction that he’s never shown”
I fucked this bullshit in the ass by pointing out an instance of himself EASILY catching something faster than Kenshiro’s hand.
Go2movies wrote:
You’re the one who’s comparing it to regular punch
Because that’s what the fuck they are, retard. Regular punches aimed in more specific places.
Go2movies wrote:
so how can you compare pokes aimed a certain points in the body to a regular punch? There’s hardly any comparison.
Are you fucking kidding me? Seriously? I can’t believe there’s ANYBODY THIS FUCKING STUPID. Jesus Christ.
Go2movies wrote:
Everytime someone argue down your ridiculous, ignorant and bias arguments, you start throwing insults and that’s trolling.
No, anytime someone argues my well together points with blatant retardation, I start addressing them as such. You retard, you don’t even know what a pressure point attack is, roflmao.
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For your information, that wasn’t Ken’s fastest feat and it beats out Raditz’s speed feats.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
One is Goku moving his hands so fast, it appears as if he has 4 separate limbs. The other would be the equivalent of Master Roshi catching machine gun fire.
So either way, it still has the look as if they have more than one arm.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Yes, it, is, you, fucking, retard.
No it’s not, stupid!
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
No, your idiocy is just mind numbing.
No, that’s just your stupidity.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
*snip*
That video doesn’t even show how he interrupted their hits. Once again, stop lying.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
You’re correct, you didn’t ask for an instance, you merely stated:
“Plus, he has to have really go reaction to catch Kenshiro’s hand. Reaction that he’s never shown”
I fucked this bullshit in the ass by pointing out an instance of himself EASILY catching something faster than Kenshiro’s hand.
How would you know it’s faster than Kenshiro’s hand?
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Because that’s what the fuck they are, retard. Regular punches aimed in more specific places.
They’re mainly POKES! Ken is just strong enough to them with his punches!
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Are you fucking kidding me? Seriously? I can’t believe there’s ANYBODY THIS FUCKING STUPID. Jesus Christ.
No actual rebuttal because you know I’m right.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
No, anytime someone argues my well together points with blatant retardation, I start addressing them as such. You retard, you don’t even know what a pressure point attack is, roflmao.
If I don’t know what pressure point attacks are then why did you first say they were pokes and then changed it and said they punches? Then compare them to regular punches? With BS like that, it’s obvious to everyone that you don’t know what pressure attacks are.
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In what way did he demonstrate greater than 21st budokai speed?
Go2movies wrote:
No, they were heading straight at them and THEN he kicked them in their chins. They didn’t throw punches yet.
Because he had dropped and kicked them in the face before they could swing.
Go2movies wrote:
It’s funny I asked YOU for proof and then turn right back around and asked me for it. lol
God you’re an idiot. You asked for proof Raditz could catch Ken’s hand, I showed you Raditz effortlessly catching bullets. You claimed Ken punches faster than gun fire, I asked for proof.
Go2movies wrote:
Again, refer back to his fight with Han.
The one where they were moving at speeds comparable to people in the 21st budokai?
Go2movies wrote:
Unless it’s aimed for a pressure point.
Stop trolling, thanks.
Go2movies wrote:
You’re really delusional.
And you’re trolling.
Go2movies wrote:
But somehow they can be “blocked”?
Uhhh, yeah, they’re just like normal punches and kicks. Notice how anytime Kenshiro fights someone of comparable speed they’re able to block each other’s punches and kicks? It’s because a pressure point attack aimed at the chest isn’t going to activate one in the arm.
Go2movies wrote:
Nobody is doing that because I’m not stupid.
Oh, you’re quite clearly the dumbest motherfucker to post here, now that Never Give Up has left.
In what way did he demonstrate greater than 21st budokai speed?
He was punching so fast he didn’t look like he was moving.
Moses Morrison wrote:
Because he had dropped and kicked them in the face before they could swing.
Yes, BEFORE they could swing, not while they were swinging.
Moses Morrison wrote:
God you’re an idiot. You asked for proof Raditz could catch Ken’s hand, I showed you Raditz effortlessly catching bullets. You claimed Ken punches faster than gun fire, I asked for proof.
No I said he hasn’t shown the reaction to catch Ken’s hand, you brought up the bullet part, then I asked how would you know the bullet’s faster than Ken’s fists.
Moses Morrison wrote:
The one where they were moving at speeds comparable to people in the 21st budokai?
Joke moments are irrelevant.
Moses Morrison wrote:
Stop trolling, thanks.
Stop talking to yourself.
Moses Morrison wrote:
And you’re trolling.
No I’m not.
Moses Morrison wrote:
Uhhh, yeah, they’re just like normal punches and kicks. Notice how anytime Kenshiro fights someone of comparable speed they’re able to block each other’s punches and kicks? It’s because a pressure point attack aimed at the chest isn’t going to activate one in the arm.
Dude, I never said that! I never said that a pressure point aimed at the chest activates one in the arm! I said if you USE your arm to block pressure point strike, a pressure point in your arm will be struck instead.
Moses Morrison wrote:
Oh, you’re quite clearly the dumbest motherfucker to post here, now that Never Give Up has left.
Once again, you’re delusional.
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that pressure point hoopla wouldnt work on anything but humans sayain only look like humans and have the same organs unless you can prove they have pressure points
He was punching so fast he didn’t look like he was moving.
Yeah, that’s a Master Roshi level feat. What’s your point?
Go2movies wrote:
Yes, BEFORE they could swing, not while they were swinging.
Okay, whatever, point being, he could just fuck Kenshiro up while he’s in the process of attacking, like he fucked Piccolo and Goku’s shit up.
Go2movies wrote:
No I said he hasn’t shown the reaction to catch Ken’s hand, you brought up the bullet part, then I asked how would you know the bullet’s faster than Ken’s fists.
The onus of proof is on you to prove Kenshiro punches faster than a bullet. So far, you haven’t even proven Kenshiro punches faster than Master Roshi.
Go2movies wrote:
Joke moments are irrelevant.
Mmmkay, that still doesn’t change the fact that Roshi knocked Yamcha out with the same speed, and put a big ass bruise on Krillin’s with Krillin being unable to see him move. Also Goku and Master Roshi were using the same Zanzoken’s Han was using.
Go2movies wrote:
Stop talking to yourself.
How old are you? 6?
Go2movies wrote:
Dude, I never said that! I never said that a pressure point aimed at the chest activates one in the arm! I said if you USE your arm to block pressure point strike, a pressure point in your arm will be struck instead.
Except that’s not how pressure points work, at all. Kenshiro aims at a specific spot in the body, if you use your arm to block the attack aimed at the specific part of the body, your arms not going to explode. You’re too stupid to realize this, however, and I expect another horrid misinterpretation to further laugh at.
Go2movies wrote:
Once again, you’re delusional.
Yeah, you’re right, heavenly king still posts here, I guess you’ll have to settle for #2.
Holy shit, after reading GO2movies posts in this thread I’ve come to the conclusion that he is just a better grammar version of Heavenly King. He’s just as hopeless and ignorant as HK is. Moses, I don’t see how you can even continue going with this guy. I don’t even think anyone’s taking him serious, you’ve pretty much proven your point.
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Holy shit, after reading GO2movies posts in this thread I’ve come to the conclusion that he is just a better grammar version of Heavenly King. He’s just as hopeless and ignorant as HK is. Moses, I don’t see how you can even continue going with this guy. I don’t even think anyone’s taking him serious, you’ve pretty much proven your point.
So, where do you think Kenshiro would rank in DB/DBZ?
Yeah, that’s a Master Roshi level feat. What’s your point?
Prove it.
Moses Morrison wrote:
Okay, whatever, point being, he could just fuck Kenshiro up while he’s in the process of attacking, like he fucked Piccolo and Goku’s shit up.
No he can’t. Raditz won’t be able to interrupt the Hyakurestu Ken.
Moses Morrison wrote:
The onus of proof is on you to prove Kenshiro punches faster than a bullet. So far, you haven’t even proven Kenshiro punches faster than Master Roshi.
YOU made the claim of bullets being faster than Ken, why don’t YOU prove it?
Moses Morrison wrote:
Mmmkay, that still doesn’t change the fact that Roshi knocked Yamcha out with the same speed, and put a big ass bruise on Krillin’s with Krillin being unable to see him move. Also Goku and Master Roshi were using the same Zanzoken’s Han was using.
Prove all of this.
Moses Morrison wrote:
Except that’s not how pressure points work, at all. Kenshiro aims at a specific spot in the body, if you use your arm to block the attack aimed at the specific part of the body, your arms not going to explode.
Yes it will because you have pressure points in your arms too.
Moses Morrison wrote:
Yeah, you’re right, heavenly king still posts here, I guess you’ll have to settle for #2.
He’s got more sense than you too.
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Holy shit, after reading GO2movies posts in this thread I’ve come to the conclusion that he is just a better grammar version of Heavenly King. He’s just as hopeless and ignorant as HK is. Moses, I don’t see how you can even continue going with this guy. I don’t even think anyone’s taking him serious, you’ve pretty much proven your point.
Why don’t you stop being a cheerleader and actually say something pertaining to the topic?
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Yeah, that’s a Master Roshi level feat. What’s your point?
Prove it.
Moses Morrison wrote:
Okay, whatever, point being, he could just fuck Kenshiro up while he’s in the process of attacking, like he fucked Piccolo and Goku’s shit up.
No he can’t. Raditz won’t be able to interrupt the Hyakurestu Ken.
Moses Morrison wrote:
The onus of proof is on you to prove Kenshiro punches faster than a bullet. So far, you haven’t even proven Kenshiro punches faster than Master Roshi.
YOU made the claim of bullets being faster than Ken, why don’t YOU prove it?
Moses Morrison wrote:
Mmmkay, that still doesn’t change the fact that Roshi knocked Yamcha out with the same speed, and put a big ass bruise on Krillin’s with Krillin being unable to see him move. Also Goku and Master Roshi were using the same Zanzoken’s Han was using.
Prove all of this.
Moses Morrison wrote:
Except that’s not how pressure points work, at all. Kenshiro aims at a specific spot in the body, if you use your arm to block the attack aimed at the specific part of the body, your arms not going to explode.
Yes it will because you have pressure points in your arms too.
Moses Morrison wrote:
Yeah, you’re right, heavenly king still posts here, I guess you’ll have to settle for #2.
He’s got more sense than you too.
GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Holy shit, after reading GO2movies posts in this thread I’ve come to the conclusion that he is just a better grammar version of Heavenly King. He’s just as hopeless and ignorant as HK is. Moses, I don’t see how you can even continue going with this guy. I don’t even think anyone’s taking him serious, you’ve pretty much proven your point.
Why don’t you stop being a cheerleader and actually say something pertaining to the topic?
Go look at pressure points and tell me how many there are in the arm and what locatins. Chances are there located on the inside of the arm and need to be grabbed and held to pose effect.
Go look at pressure points and tell me how many there are in the arm and what locatins. Chances are there located on the inside of the arm and need to be grabbed and held to pose effect.
I’m not sure how many there are but I believe they are some that are located ON the arm.
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GodHandTheWorld wrote:
Holy shit, after reading GO2movies posts in this thread I’ve come to the conclusion that he is just a better grammar version of Heavenly King. He’s just as hopeless and ignorant as HK is. Moses, I don’t see how you can even continue going with this guy. I don’t even think anyone’s taking him serious, you’ve pretty much proven your point.
So, where do you think Kenshiro would rank in DB/DBZ?
IMO:
Dragonball : God tier
DBZ : High Low Tier
I respect your opinion, but the fact of the matter is, he’d get done in by King Piccolo.
He wouldn’t even last a second in Saiyan Saga DBZ, Raditz would destroy him.
Krillin: That-that hit, I didn’t even see it. How can I beat him if I can’t even see him?
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Master Roshi: It’s rare that I find a fighter that can even follow my movements.
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Go2movies wrote:
No he can’t. Raditz won’t be able to interrupt the Hyakurestu Ken.
Sure he could, blasting him in the fucking face works.
Go2movies wrote:
YOU made the claim of bullets being faster than Ken, why don’t YOU prove it?
I’ve never seen anything that shows Ken punches faster than bullets, show me something that proves Ken punches faster than bullets.
Also, I haven’t seen anything that suggests Ken is faster than Master Roshi, Master Roshi is a snail to Raditz. You’ve yet to prove your substance-less claims of superior Ken speed. More or less just posted ad nauseum, “Ken’s faster and I don’t care what the facts show, nyah nyah."
Go2movies wrote:
Prove all of this.
Jackie knocks a fat dude out faster than Yamcha can even see his technique. I provided the other scene above, and you know damn well about Goku and Roshi’s use of Zanzoken.
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Go2movies wrote:
Yes it will because you have pressure points in your arms too.
How will Ken activate a pressure point in the arm by aiming for one in the face?
Go2movies wrote:
He’s got more sense than you too.
LOL
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