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Living Tribunal vs The Beyonder vs Thanos with HOTU vs Nemesis vs Spectre vs Monitor (both)

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Which is the strongest and where do 'real' personifications like the Brahman,Vishnu and Shiva,Zeus,Odin,Eru,Aku,Jesus and the Messiah fit in? What about personifications of the personifications e.g. Krishna or Gods from Journey to the West? Do Watchers/Celestials/Eternals fit in lower down the scale? What about Galactus and Abraxas?

Can any of the above (and if the above in the above paragraph are different) take on the big,good, YHWH/Allah/Brahman if they team up?

So...just put it on a scale on who’s the strongest/ which can beat the other in a fight. Thanks.

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Between Thanos W/HOTU and Pre retcon beyonder most likely


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aren’t those threads banned?


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Rider of Havoc wrote: Pre retcon beyonder most likely



this

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If it is pre retcon then he solos.


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great thread


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Well let’s see.

Beyonder solo’s if this is Pre-Retcon.

He may have a little trouble with HOTU Thanos though.


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Thanos pimp slaps. and stalemates Beyonder.
Thanos is basically TOAA with HOTU.


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Thanos with the HOTU is the strongest on this list.

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Sorry, forgot to add Phoenix but I didn’t think she was as strong as the above. How do the characters in the title fit into this/ what is the distance between them in power. I assume that Phoenix and Galactus are second best and Celestials/Watchers/Eternals third best. With today’s Gods, I assume the big/major God is TOAA level, semi Gods like the Hindu Trinity in between TOAA and those on the list and incarnations like Jesus,Krishna,etc. the same as those second best.
Why did they write it so that Greek/Norse/Hindu Gods in Marvel not be as strong as the above? Isn’t that the whole point of Gods?

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ronki23 wrote: Sorry, forgot to add Phoenix but I didn’t think she was as strong as the above. How do the characters in the title fit into this/ what is the distance between them in power. I assume that Phoenix and Galactus are second best and Celestials/Watchers/Eternals third best. With today’s Gods, I assume the big/major God is TOAA level, semi Gods like the Hindu Trinity in between TOAA and those on the list and incarnations like Jesus,Krishna,etc. the same as those second best.
Why did they write it so that Greek/Norse/Hindu Gods in Marvel not be as strong as the above? Isn’t that the whole point of Gods?




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Please don’t bring up deities that are featured in the modern Religions unless its only the comic version (or etc.) of that deity.

It’s far too controversial to bring up the actual deities and usually makes threads end up debating the existence of God or etc., which is not the purpose of the Versus Section.

Edited 10-03-2011 04:32 PM by Marquess
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ok, but why is it Marvel have written those Gods in as weaker than their Gods/anti Gods? Doesn’t it defeat the purpose of modern Gods being Gods?

Anyway, which of the above is the strongest?

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Do people not know what the HOTU is? Having it litteraly gives you part of TOAA’s Omnipotent’s.

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Rider of Havoc wrote: Between Thanos W/HOTU and Pre retcon beyonder most likely



This.... Only those two are the factors here


But I have a brief question. Didn’t marvel retconn Thanos HOTU adsorptions of Living Tribunal? Didn’t they retconn that Living Tribunal as only Living Tribunal’s M-body, and the real Living Tribunal could have destroy that universe Thanos messed-up if it shall affect other universe? Besides, I am not sure if that’s one of Marvel inconsistencies, but according to the Marvel’s official hand book. Only One-Above-All is superior to Living Tribunal, no one else.


I still believe Thanos with HOTU and pre-retconn Beyonder are the top dogs base on feats.

Edited 10-03-2011 06:54 PM by toyota1929
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rayn1984 wrote:

Rider of Havoc wrote: Between Thanos W/HOTU and Pre retcon beyonder most likely



This.... Only those two are the factors here


But I have a brief question. Didn’t marvel retconn Thanos HOTU adsorptions of Living Tribunal? Didn’t they retconn that Living Tribunal as only Living Tribunal’s M-body, and the real Living Tribunal could have destroy that universe Thanos messed-up if it shall affect other universe? Besides, I am not sure if that’s one of Marvel inconsistencies, but according to the Marvel’s official hand book. Only One-Above-All is superior to Living Tribunal, no one else.


I still believe Thanos with HOTU and pre-retconn Beyonder are the top dogs base on feats.



They didn’t retcon Thanos with HOTU absorbing LT.

I think the data book was made before that issue actually.

Yeah, it’s between Thanos with HOTU and Pre-Retcon Beyonder. I say Beyonder could win, but it’d be a good fight.


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Omniwhatever wrote:

rayn1984 wrote:

Rider of Havoc wrote: Between Thanos W/HOTU and Pre retcon beyonder most likely



This.... Only those two are the factors here


But I have a brief question. Didn’t marvel retconn Thanos HOTU adsorptions of Living Tribunal? Didn’t they retconn that Living Tribunal as only Living Tribunal’s M-body, and the real Living Tribunal could have destroy that universe Thanos messed-up if it shall affect other universe? Besides, I am not sure if that’s one of Marvel inconsistencies, but according to the Marvel’s official hand book. Only One-Above-All is superior to Living Tribunal, no one else.


I still believe Thanos with HOTU and pre-retconn Beyonder are the top dogs base on feats.



They didn’t retcon Thanos with HOTU absorbing LT.

I think the data book was made before that issue actually.

Yeah, it’s between Thanos with HOTU and Pre-Retcon Beyonder. I say Beyonder could win, but it’d be a good fight.




Actually it was retconn, someone in the comicvine.com provided something to prove that. Anyway, about the hand book vs. the end.



vs...





and in that handbook, it says



The handbook was made after the last Marvel: The end.

Edited 10-03-2011 07:29 PM by toyota1929
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ronki23 wrote: Sorry, forgot to add Phoenix but I didn’t think she was as strong as the above. How do the characters in the title fit into this/ what is the distance between them in power. I assume that Phoenix and Galactus are second best and Celestials/Watchers/Eternals third best. With today’s Gods, I assume the big/major God is TOAA level, semi Gods like the Hindu Trinity in between TOAA and those on the list and incarnations like Jesus,Krishna,etc. the same as those second best.
Why did they write it so that Greek/Norse/Hindu Gods in Marvel not be as strong as the above? Isn’t that the whole point of Gods?



LOL those are real religions' gods alredy

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so atm it’s a battle between Thanos, Living Tribunal and Beyonder. I thought Nemesis would be powerful as she has the power of ALL the infinity gems?
Would characters like Galactus,Monitors,Eternity/Infinty, Death/Oblivion be put below the above or on the same level?Big G CAN destroy Universes you know!

Would The Watchers, Eternals and Celestials be put below these?


Anyway, why did Marvel write in modern/pre Marvel Gods e.g. Norse/Greek/Hindu but not put them very high power wise?

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Ronki-23 wrote: so atm it’s a battle between Thanos, Living Tribunal and Beyonder. I thought Nemesis would be powerful as she has the power of ALL the infinity gems?
Would characters like Galactus,Monitors,Eternity/Infinty, Death/Oblivion be put below the above or on the same level?Big G CAN destroy Universes you know!

Would The Watchers, Eternals and Celestials be put below these?


Anyway, why did Marvel write in modern/pre Marvel Gods e.g. Norse/Greek/Hindu but not put them very high power wise?



A battle between Thanos W/HOTU and Beyonder.

Didn’t HOTU actually effect LT?

And PreRetBeyonder is above LT.


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Edited 10-04-2011 07:02 PM by GoodGamerSambo
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