Living Tribunal Vs The Entire Saint Seiya Cast

Please amuse me Itachi.

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Speed of light

Leo Aioria Create after image of him... Titans cant predict it since at this time Aioria already faster than 100,000,000 FTL
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Size alterations of planets (even its living things)
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Now that I think of it, The Gold Saints are beyond planetary level.

Goku has to take great pains and quite some time to gather the living force of living beings into his final Genki Dama and yet he only drains them partially.

A Titan does all that naturally and instantaneously (in the time it takes a Gold Saint to cross a small distance to attack them) and not only taking all the

Cosmo of the planets and the living beings: they cause their Cosmo to burn and expand collectively (see explanation of Cosmo power) and then morph them with

the Dunamis as they please, be it the shield I posted first or these giants that attack autonomously with this planetary power that is expanded:

Using power of the universes... Dunamis able using it anytime the user want...
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Titan Iapetos: “The planets will fight alongside me”

Know what? Shaka can knock these giants back with an imperfect technique (he has his eyes closed, which hides his true power):
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Capricorn Shura Feat
Hitting power has been covered, but what about non-accelerated superstrength such as parrying?

First off, it’s been posted why forces beyond planetary are needed just to hurt a Gold Saint. Kreios, the Titan with the planets shield, uses a divine sickle

that’s been stated to be able to cut stars.

We never see such an example, but it’s up to you to decide whether a guy who slashes a Gold Saint at leisure even in his weakest form, channels planets as

shield over his right arm instantaneously and took part in a war against the strongest Gods in Saint Seiya for a long time is not hyperboling you especially

when he and his brethren have a source of power that can manipulate parallel universes and even destroy them.

In any case, after Kreios got his sickle cut by Gold Saint Shura’s Excalibur (epic cutting power) a second time, he upgraded it with his divine blood into a

sword that’s stated to be his ultimate power, as stated by Kreios and Shura who feels the Cosmo emanating from it:

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Those ice-looking formations Kreios cut in one swing are Orichalcum, the stuff Cloths are made of. Even with his weaker sickle, Kreios was cutting it easily

(as I said, even with the Gold Cloth Shura had to soak the damage and bleed a lot) which Shura couldn’t do right off the bat.

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When cornered, Shura managed to stop the sword with his hands:
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And then he counter-attacked Kreios hitting him in the head redirecting the force Kreios attacked with:

Kreios: “In the moment I attacked him, he stopped that force and used it to counter me”

Kreios: “With that impact he returned all the force I’d attacked him with!!!"

I know for a fact Shura later managed to expand his Cosmo to the point he destroyed that sword and killed Kreios despite his regeneration, but I haven’t seen

it yet. Like I said, bloodlust can make these guys more dangerous if they have half a chance.

In other hand, Shaka was also able to invade the Universes of two Titans via dimension travelling. That was deemed to be impossible without permission by the

Gods.

Dimensions Iapetos

Fighting Shaka and Aioria and take them to his universes
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and shaking Iapetos universes with Tenbu Horin...
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They aren’t in English, and you cannot tell the difference between reflexes and travelling speed, so pulease dude.

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Alright I’ll post some scans about Shaka and Iapetos to prove my case.

Here Iapetos loses it and destroys the planets he protected along with his wife, who lends him her power and techniques. Iapetos is a vast matter/dimensional

manipulator but this glimpses his power better than other similarly impressive showings (they are fighting in Iapetos' universes. BTW, he dragged Aioria and

Shaka there to fight them):

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Then he attacks Aioria and Shaka shields them both with his Khan barrier, which stands up to several of his bloodlusted attacks for a while:

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Shaka: “There’s practically no chance.... to counterattack!!!"

Shaka: “They surpassed the Khan once, even if I do it again.... they are going to pierce it again with that combination”

Aioria: “But even then, we have to do it!! We must defeat them!! To protect all the lives that inhabit the Earth... as Athena’s Saint..... and...."

Since Iapetos is fast and can spam dimensional portals to attack/evade, Shaka opens his eyes to release his power and uses the Tenbu Horin , his maximum

technique, as soon as his barrier is broken:

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Shaka: “First sense taken!!"

Shaka: “The Tenbu Horin covers both attack and defense and at the same time... it is able to take away the 6 senses one after the other. I’ve just taken the

sense of touch from him and now he’s been immobilized.... but...."

Shaka: “He’ll probably recover instantly thanks to the Dunamis of the Gods. Surely it will only stop him for a millisecond.... but...."

Sure enough, Iapetos recovers but Aioria gets an opening to attack. But the point is, the Dunamis referenced here is a very powerful power that allows the

Titans and other Gods to control matter/energy at the atomic and spiritual level. It goes far beyond just regen (which they already had outside of the

Dunamis). At its top end performance, it’s practically reality warping (at universal scale).

Superman doesn’t have anything of the sort to protect him, on top of the attack being, while not described as magical, as mystical as it can get.The sense of

touch removal will disallow him from moving, then he’ll be blinded, muted, deafened, left tasteless and finally, his brain will be shut down (6th sense).

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Virgo Shaka

Shaka with his best showings all around....

The strongest being he’s so far been shown to be able to affect at all is Titan Dimension Iapetos, who wears an armor forged by one of the oldest SS beings

(the grandmother of Zeus), reigned over a Universes (which disappeared with his death much like Hades universes disappeared with him), whose son Atlas holds

the sky and stars over his shoulders, and absorbed Themis (his wife, a FTL Titaness who turned sins into physical weight and wore the same kind of armor)

into his armor as a sword.

In durability, Shaka took a direct hit by one of Iapetos’ Kaos attacks and survived. His barrier shielded him and another Gold Saint from Iapetos’ serious

techniques (he was already fused with Themis) for a while.

In sheer offensive power, the Tenbu Horin (the union of all universal truth that brings a state of supreme harmony) sent Iapetos flying backwards with an

expression of utter agony and robbed him his sense of touch for a brief amount of time before he recovered it via his God blood (regen) and the Dunamis

(which is treated as superior to Cosmo).

In speed, Shaka’s Cloth traveled from Guidecca to Elysion crossing billions of galaxies in seconds to urgently save Seiya and company from Thanatos. A

Cloth’s inner power can boost even non-7th sense users with FTL reflexes, as proven when Mach 1 Seiya was covered by Aiolos’ Cloth in a far less urgent

situation than the Elysion incident (which was the climax of the original series).

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Saint Seiya revolves around the idea of the Era of human kind coming to an end, and re-establish the era of gods on Earth. The only obstacle to the Gods

invasion is the Goddess Athena and her Saints.

This was established early on in the manga.
Volume 1 pages 11-13
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Humans are able to keep in bay the invasion thanks to the will of the Gods thanks to their cosmo power. (often referred to universe power).

It is also established that as long as Athena is the guardian of Earth. The will of other Gods is weaken over Earth.

This explains their methods of wiping out humanity.

We are not going to see the planet itself being destroyed. That defeats the whole purpose of the story. The Gods or the enimes of Saint Seiya have no reason

to do such a thing. What does occur is they present their power and claim thin in a metaphoric/poetic sense half the time.

I can understand that this 21 year old manga is outdated. And I can understand that the feats are no longer impressive by today’s standards. But at least the

speed feat is well established.

Bronze saints are capable of moving/reacting/attacking up to the speed of light.
This can be seen when Seiya catches every bullet fired from a machine gun with little effort.
Or when Ikky appeared and attacks with Phantom Punch. They needed to replay it in slow motion for the audience to see what had happened.

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And the Living Tribunal pwned the IG /thread.

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The God Apollo Power

I want to make two things clear about Saint Seiya.
One they do back up their claims of power (somewhat).
Two they do move at the speed of light!!!! And fight fluidly at the speed of light!!!

In terms of raw power.
Spoiler:

In Saint Seiya movie/ova #6 Apollo has the power to wipe out all existence all over the universe and start a new one.
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This can be seen when Seiya raised his level and kept it an in infinite state. While Apollo was wiping out all existence. Later on we see a new Existence

where Athena and Seiya meet all over again.
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Also.
It was Athena’s shield that destroyed Saga evil Side. (manga)
It was Athena who re-sealed Poseidon.
It was Athena who take out Hades in his true body.

My point? Don’t Mess with Athena or Apollo!!
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Also Kami Seiya and Co are at the level of Minor Greek Gods.
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Titans say they have from ancient time the power that expands the Universe infinitely (clear Big Bang allusion) and other statements that indicate a

primordial cosmic force (Gods have certainly showed reality warping on planetary scale even universe scale and casual atomical manipulation before).

Anyway, when in the place where they have their original power, a Titan who specializes in dimensional meddling sucked Aiolia from the giant castle into

another Universe:

Aiolia: The black sphere is.... absorbing my body?!

Aiolia finds himself in a whole new plane of reality (notice the shining stars in the background):

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Themis (third bubble): Each of the Titans has Universes and a planets they rule.

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And a bit later (it’s just text so no need to post the image I think) Themis says: Very pathetic. This Universes that we created... is impenetrable

So, it looks like a Universe, it’s called a Universe, it’s not some “superimposed” image that disappears the next panel, and its subsequent destruction as a

result of Aiolia’s ultimate lethal attack on the Titan that broke him (called an infinite force so as to portray the gravity of the situation) supports the

statement that they created it. Because of the scan limit I can’t post the moment where Themis creates it from the place where Aiolia was originally, all the

Gold Saints feeling it and saying that they’d never felt an immense Cosmo like that before.

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Apollo
Resisting Reality Warp.

When Overture was announced, it was stated to be the continuation to Saint Seiya manga that would eventually lead to the Heaven chapter. It is the only movie

to have been stated, all prior movie are absolutely non cannon.

In Overture, Apollo was fed up with the human and the Goddess resistance. With a hand wave, all creation is undone. Except for Seiya who is resisting the

initial wave. Athena decides to back up Seiya, goes forth to deliver its blow under the second wave of Apollo attack.

If Thanos with IG took out a half population of the universe with a snap, Apollo by waving his hand and all existance all over the universe is undone.

According to the fact that Seiya survive such attack bcoz of power of the universe (Dunamis) and Athena back his ass up as his goddess (Athena went naked lol

).

I think with such facts you can consider that Hades-sama can rivalling even with Living Tribunal. (I mean RIVALLING not DEFEATING)

And I know Beyonder can take out of them... but Living Tribunal solos SS Cast...???

He will got killed by them... (If they combine all their cosmos power together)

*Note: Iapetos is multiversal cosmic beings. Hades and Kronos stronger than him.

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Buster Sword wrote: And the Living Tribunal pwned the IG /thread.

Apollo
Resisting Reality Warp.

When Overture was announced, it was stated to be the continuation to Saint Seiya manga that would eventually lead to the Heaven chapter. It is the only movie

to have been stated, all prior movie are absolutely non cannon.

In Overture, Apollo was fed up with the human and the Goddess resistance. With a hand wave, all creation is undone. Except for Seiya who is resisting the

initial wave. Athena decides to back up Seiya, goes forth to deliver its blow under the second wave of Apollo attack.

If Thanos with IG took out a half population of the universe with a snap, Apollo by waving his hand and all existance all over the universe is undone.

According to the fact that Seiya survive such attack bcoz of power of the universe (Dunamis) and Athena back his ass up as his goddess (Athena went naked lol

).

I think with such facts you can consider that Hades-sama can rivalling even with Living Tribunal. (I mean RIVALLING not DEFEATING)

And I know Beyonder can take out of them... but Living Tribunal solos SS Cast...???

He will got killed by them... (If they combine all their cosmos power together)

*Note: Iapetos is multiversal cosmic beings. Hades and Kronos stronger than him.

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Dimension Iapetos
Dimension Iapetos (???????? Jigen no Iapetosu?) is the second Titan released from Tartarus by Pontus. Unlike all the other Titans, Iapetos shows a very childish personality.
He is easily angered, very cocky, and proud of his power – and likes to show it off. He is sarcastic, rude, and sadistic, even with his siblings. He has an androgynous appearance, and is sometimes depicted like he’s wearing lipstick[54][55]. Iapetos, despite his personality, is incredibly strong. In his fight against Mu, though interrupted by Cronus, he left the battle without a single scratch and has not yet even used all of his powers[56], while the Aries Saint, considered one of the strongest Gold Saints, is covered in his own blood[57].
Despite being completely loyal to Cronus, Iapetos can act on his own if he thinks necessary. Doing this, he is once discovered by Cronus and then offers his own life as a payment, but he is “saved” by Hyperion’s arguments[58]. Even so, Iapetos seems to hold a grudge against Hyperion and Coeus, treating them as stubs. However, this may be due to his cocky and somewhat childlike personality, at odds with the calm and collected one of his siblings.
He is also the one who kidnapped Lithos in order to lure Aiolia to Cronus’ Labyrinth. There he challenged the Leo Saint alongside with Themis, but was almost defeated by Aiolia with Virgo Shaka’s aid. It is there that he showed his true powers, killing his own wife in the process and turning into a berserker and demonic version of himself (not too different, albeit with a pair of horns on his head). Using both his and Themis' powers he proved to be a formidable foe, but was nonetheless defeated and restored to his senses, where he granted his opponents his Ichor to heal their wounds and then threw himself into the depths of Tartarus, Themis in his embrace. By far, he is the first Titan that was defeated in the manga.
Although all the Titans – or most of them, at least – can create dimensional portals to travel from Cronos’ Labyrinth to some place on Earth, Iapetos seems to be the only one who can fully control the dimensional portals. He can open and expand them with a single movement of his arms (or even without it) and can use them very effectively in battle. Also, he is a master of the strange ink-like substance known as “Khaos”, a mixture of every one of the elements and a very potent force, with which he can conjure his most powerful techniques. The name of this energy and his composition suggest that it is indeed what existed before the creation of the universe, as Iapetos himself states.
He can also control Hecatonchires telepathically[59], using them as tools of war. It’s still unknown if his telepathic control can be applied to other beings inferior to him. As in mythology, in Episode G, Iapetos is Themis' husband and Atlas’ father, but Atlas has not played a role in the story, although he has been mentioned by Themis. Iapetos' Soma has the shape of a double-edged sword xiphos.
His special techniques, so far, are:
- Khora Temnein (Space Cut) (???? - ????·????? Kukan Setsudan - Kora Temunein?): Moving an arm, Iapetos creates a dimensional rift. It expands extremely fast and everything in its way is engulfed by it, and completely devastated in the same instant or, at least, locked in another dimension. This attack can be potentialized by opening many dimensional rifts instead of just one, making the expansion speed and range much greater. The technique can be also be used in conjunct with the Hecatonchire.
- Hekatonkheir Kalein (Hecatonchire Summon) (???? - ???????·???? Hyakute Shokan - Hekatonkeiru Karein?): In this move, Iapetos opens a dimensional portal and summons an Hecatonchire from it[60]. The Hecatonchire completely obeys Iapetos, who seems to control him telepathically in order to erase any vestige of its will. It is unknown how many Hecatonchires Iapetos can control at the same time. It is possible that he has just one of them being controlled. It is also possible that he can dispose of all the three (Briareus, Cottus and Gyges). The Hecatonchires are giant creatures with fifty minor heads on the top of the giant one and two immense arms that can split into a hundred more. Their bodies are very resistant: Iapetos normally uses them in conjunction with the Khora Temnein, ripping their arms to make them reappear in other place. Even after the hundred arms are ripped by Iapetos, they still can be fully controlled in order to attack an enemy and, after that, fuse again with the body of the Hecatonchire.
The Hecatonchire can use Hekaton Menis (Rage of Hecatonchire) (???? - ????·??? Hyaku no Gekido - Hekaton Menisu?) in which the bracelets on one of the arms are destroyed by the muscles expansion and the arm suddenly divides itself into fifty minor arms. They wall attack the enemy at the same time causing major damages. Hekaton Molybdaina (Lead-strength Hecatonchire) (?? - ????·??????? Hyakutama - Hekaton Moryubudaina?), another of the Hecatonchire’s attacks. This time, both arms divide into one hundred more and they all attack the enemy with extreme speed and power.
- Melas Planetes (Black Planets) (???? - ???·?????? Yami no Wakusei - Merasu Puranetesu?): As Iapetos and Themis stated, a Titan’s Cosmos is so explosively powerful and enormous that it can command entire star system or even parallel universes. This technique creates a whole planet complete with its own population, an immeasurable quantity of Cosmos energy devoted to protect the Titan and attack its foes. The planet itself can attack with gigantic surges of Dunamis, similar to jet-black water, and it is the source of power for the Hex Aster Xiphos technique.
- Hex Aster Xiphos (Six Star Xiphos) (???? ??? ???? ???? Rokusei no Yaiba - Hekusu Asuteru Kushiposu?): Summons 6 Cyclops and arms them with swords. These are no ordinary Cyclops: in fact they are massive humanoids made of some sort of obsidian-like matter, with no faces and a single glowing galaxy-like eye on their foreheads. The giant swords they wield are also covered with runes. They are summoned from the energy gained through the Melas Planetes technique, and Iapetos can absorb their whole power if they’re crushed, forming six long tentacle-like appendages with which access to his most powerful techniques.
- Khaos Kyklos (Chaos Cycle) (?): This is the first step necessary to unleash the Khaos Prosbole technique, with which Iapetos creates in front of him a circle of Khaos.
- Khaos Blade (Chaos Blade) (?): Using the black circle created with the Khaos Kyklos technique as a sort of gate, Iapetos can swing his armblades and coat his arm-blades with Khaos, enabling him to execute the Khaos Prosbole technique.
- Khaos Prosbole (Chaos Transference) (?): The final step that unleashes all the power of Khaos upon Iapetos' foes, it has the Titan use his arm-blades coated with Khaos to unleash monstrously powerful blows, able to break defenses such as Virgo Shaka’s Kahn with ease.

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This is why you are fanwanking, because you believe it requires an omnipotent being to beat SS, when that is absolute bull.

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Buster Sword wrote: This is why you are fanwanking, because you believe it requires an omnipotent being to beat SS, when that is absolute bull.

all you can do is denying...

IG = Apollo

Hades >>>> Apollo

If they combine their power together... I doubt LT could survive that...

Hades
Apollo
Artemis
Athena
Hera
Kronos
Ares
11 titans
9 Gigas (if I’m not mistaking - Dunamis -)
12 Gold sainst with Dunamis (Virgo Shaka battle againts Iapetos shaking entire universe)
Seiya (Dunamis)
Shiryu (Dunamis)
Hyouga (Dunamis)
Shun (Dunamis)
Ikki (Dunamis)
Hakurei (dunamis)
Virgo Asmita (Dunamis)
Douko (Universe destroyer)
Shion (Universe creator)
El Cid (Dunamis)
Abel
Eris
Poseidon
Thanatos
Hypnos
Pontos
Atlas (Carrying out universes on his shoulder)

and many more...



actually the previous holy war the saints have dunamis too
you can count their power then...

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How many universe has any SS character destroyed?
See again this is why you are one of the most stubborn and hypocritical posters.

The IG limit is not half a universe. It is more powerful than something that has already destroyed the multiverse.
Multiverse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SS characters.

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Buster Sword wrote: How many universe has any SS character destroyed?
See again this is why you are one of the most stubborn and hypocritical posters.

The IG limit is not half a universe. It is more powerful than something that has already destroyed the multiverse.
Multiverse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SS characters.

Eh...???

Virgo Shaka shaking Iapetos multiverses...

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Odin made the multiverse tremble, that doesn’t mean he can destroy it, he can’t even destroy a universe.

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Buster Sword wrote: Odin made the multiverse tremble, that doesn’t mean he can destroy it, he can’t even destroy a universe.

Pocket of universe right...???

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What?

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