MIKE TYSON VS MUHAMMAD ALI (in their prime)

RealTalker wrote:

Gplex wrote:

RealTalker wrote: I can claim since I was in a few live fights of Ali.And about the hard punching.Yes if you use the hips then it will be a harder punch.But even if you land a punch and your hand goes forward you mostly push the opponent.So the punch isn´t as hard.Again you can´t prove that Tyson had a harder punch than Foreman.You can claim he has but you can´t prove it.It´s like me.I have been in live fights of Ali and I can claim that he is faster than Tyson but until they invent a machine that can show you my memory I can´t prove it.So in this debate you actually have more proof than me.But if you look at the video I posted at the end when Ali throws that combo.The camera couldn´t even catch some of the punches.

I don�t accept antidotal evidence, and eye witness accounts are extremely unreliable. You may say he is faster, but your memories can be construed over time.
I cannot find any videos of alis �great� speed.
Anyone who is experience can tell who has a good punch, without see it knock someone out. Was that the foot work video? Because the first video didn�t seem all that fast to me.
Yes I do have more evidence on my side; it is the entire reason why I hold my position.

Like the first video.The end when he knocks London out.The camera couldn´t follow his punches.And let me ask you.Do you have any knowledge of punching in boxing?Because when I look at Ali´s punches I see a much better technicly correct punch than when I see Mike punching.So by your logic that means Ali has more power.So you still have to show some evidence that Mike had a good punch.So I correct my early statement that you have more proof than me.

I’ll be uncapped in 5 days, Ill go video hunting then.

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its funny how you herbs only remember tyson cause it was more recent, buster douglas was a no name underdog to call him a great fighter from the era is jsut wrong, thats why it was such a big deal tyson lost, tyson had no style just skill that wasnt contained or used correctly in nearly any way, liston foreman and many others could swing and hit as hard as tyson, he doesnt have the hardest punch ever, or the fastest, ali is the greatest, he beat other greats and was just as dominate in a better era then tyson, as iron mike what he ever did after say the 5th round, where as ali beat people with boxing and was great in every round, coming out swinging like a retarted monkey and hoping to connect doesnt work against all time greats like ali, yea and a rod is as good as mickey mantle......in ur dreams

gplex your a joke, who obviously doesn’t know boxing at all, ok i guess young george foreman(6’3” 265) doesn’t hit hard. same foreman that destroyed joe fraizer in 5 rds, same george foreman that at 45 or so ko’d current champ at the time mike moore. please, tyson lost to buster douglas, go ahead and again say tyson was going threw shit( he raped someone, his own fault), ali went to jail to dodge the draft, then came out and won the title. tyson came out and beat mc nealy(who has never been heard from sense) then got his ass beat every fight after that, specially from lenox, bites holyfields ear, and says he’s gonna eat kids that don’t exist, and fuck reporters, all while getting a tat, and getting his ass beat by botha, wow. ali was like 40 when it went bad for him, tyson was 25.