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Daleks are those small robots that shoot lazers in Doctor Who, and it is 1 Dalek.


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this might actuall be good....

alth, you sould have added one million to those two..then there’d be no doubt that it’s the full superman might against whoever


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It travels back in time and kills him when he is near death, Kryptonite, or when he is near a sun that does not give him power. No way of stopping that.


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Before the Dalek can go back in time it is lazered.

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Can superman travel in time?

The Dalek also has an impresive shield that can hold him off while he transports which would take one second(or maybe almost a second.) It can than kill them both at leisure.


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King Boo wrote: Before the Dalek can go back in time it is lazered.



I doubt it. Its heat shield and armour can hold them off while it transports. Anyways, its own beam(which is not a laser) can inflict pain on Superman in order for him to stop him. Plus, as soon as he makes contact with the Heat Shield, He will be in Immense pain.


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Shadow Archon wrote:

King Boo wrote: Before the Dalek can go back in time it is lazered.



I doubt it. Its heat shield and armour can hold them off while it transports. Anyways, its own beam(which is not a laser) can inflict pain on Superman in order for him to stop him. Plus, as soon as he makes contact with the Heat Shield, He will be in Immense pain.


how hot is it? comparable to a sun?


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pre crisis is fast enough to time travel under his own power.


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guy-le wrote: pre crisis is fast enough to time travel under his own power.



What does speed have to do with travel? It could simply travel to a sun that dispels his powers and wait for him.

It disentagrated a human who touched it.(the Heat shield) The armour(without the Heat shield active) helped the Dalek survive the planetary fall to earth. It was in its crater and on fire for three days which was so hot that no one could go near it.


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Shadow Archon wrote:

guy-le wrote: pre crisis is fast enough to time travel under his own power.



What does speed have to do with travel? It could simply travel to a sun that dispels his powers and wait for him.

It disentagrated a human who touched it.(the Heat shield) The armour(without the Heat shield active) helped the Dalek survive the planetary fall to earth. It was in its crater and on fire for three days which was so hot that no one could go near it.


look at his respect thread.
he is fast enough to time travel AND was hit by a planet busting sun eater attack(with red sun) and does suffer much harm.
unless a dalek has .000000000001 reaction time,pre crisis is going to kill him before he can think of time traveling.


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They can calculate one thousand billion calculations in a second. I think they can do one before so.


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guy-le wrote:

Shadow Archon wrote:

guy-le wrote: pre crisis is fast enough to time travel under his own power.



What does speed have to do with travel? It could simply travel to a sun that dispels his powers and wait for him.

It disentagrated a human who touched it.(the Heat shield) The armour(without the Heat shield active) helped the Dalek survive the planetary fall to earth. It was in its crater and on fire for three days which was so hot that no one could go near it.


look at his respect thread.
he is fast enough to time travel AND was hit by a planet busting sun eater attack(with red sun) and does suffer much harm.
unless a dalek has .000000000001 reaction time,pre crisis is going to kill him before he can think of time traveling.



Actually, touching it may be the biggest mistake ever. It can take the Genetic material from a Time traveler to begin Cellular regeneration and gain energy.


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Shadow Archon wrote: They can calculate one thousand billion calculations in a second. I think they can do one before so.


lol,isnt that a trillion?besides their is a super computer that can crunch a quadrillion calculations per second.
also thinking isnt the same as reacting.


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Shadow Archon wrote:

guy-le wrote:

Shadow Archon wrote:

guy-le wrote: pre crisis is fast enough to time travel under his own power.



What does speed have to do with travel? It could simply travel to a sun that dispels his powers and wait for him.

It disentagrated a human who touched it.(the Heat shield) The armour(without the Heat shield active) helped the Dalek survive the planetary fall to earth. It was in its crater and on fire for three days which was so hot that no one could go near it.


look at his respect thread.
he is fast enough to time travel AND was hit by a planet busting sun eater attack(with red sun) and does suffer much harm.
unless a dalek has .000000000001 reaction time,pre crisis is going to kill him before he can think of time traveling.



Actually, touching it may be the biggest mistake ever. It can take the Genetic material from a Time traveler to begin Cellular regeneration and gain energy.


is it going to stop superman?
by the way he has taken heat that would melt a planet.


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guy-le wrote:

Shadow Archon wrote: They can calculate one thousand billion calculations in a second. I think they can do one before so.


lol,isnt that a trillion?besides their is a super computer that can crunch a quadrillion calculations per second.
also thinking isnt the same as reacting.



It could do it (without stating hes going to use EMERGENCY TEMPORAL SHIFT.) in the allowed time. Actually, that’s what it said how many calculations it could do in the show. The Dalek also has the capability to download the entire internet in mere seconds. Which Super computer does that?

The daleks heat shield can hold off Superman while he only needs time to transport.


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Shadow Archon wrote:

guy-le wrote:

Shadow Archon wrote: They can calculate one thousand billion calculations in a second. I think they can do one before so.


lol,isnt that a trillion?besides their is a super computer that can crunch a quadrillion calculations per second.
also thinking isnt the same as reacting.



It could do it (without stating hes going to use EMERGENCY TEMPORAL SHIFT.) in the allowed time. Actually, that’s what it said how many calculations it could do in the show. The Dalek also has the capability to download the entire internet in mere seconds. Which Super computer does that?

The daleks heat shield can hold off Superman while he only needs time to transport.


and the daleks heat shield could hold off a guy who can easily move planets,and threw a compressed neutron star?how powerful is that sheild.
by the way,some links would be nice,like a dalek using a temporal shift,atleast to an episode.


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guy-le wrote:

Shadow Archon wrote:

guy-le wrote:

Shadow Archon wrote: They can calculate one thousand billion calculations in a second. I think they can do one before so.


lol,isnt that a trillion?besides their is a super computer that can crunch a quadrillion calculations per second.
also thinking isnt the same as reacting.



It could do it (without stating hes going to use EMERGENCY TEMPORAL SHIFT.) in the allowed time. Actually, that’s what it said how many calculations it could do in the show. The Dalek also has the capability to download the entire internet in mere seconds. Which Super computer does that?

The daleks heat shield can hold off Superman while he only needs time to transport.


and the daleks heat shield could hold off a guy who can easily move planets,and threw a compressed neutron star?how powerful is that sheild.
by the way,some links would be nice,like a dalek using a temporal shift,atleast to an episode.



No Nanobot could injure Pre-Crisis Superman at all.

He can move a planet using air molecules that were stored in his lungs, by this logic he could melt neutron-degenerate matter with nothing but heat alone.

Any machine would be pathetic.


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Its not a robot or a cyborg. It is a metal shell controlled by a true Dalek.

Temporal shift was shown in Daleks in Manhattan.

Daleks can change their genetic structure to the cellular level. They can also use a human body and genetically make them self a human/Dalek hybrid.

Once Supe(Pre-crisis) touches him, it has a genetic sample of Supe and all the temporal energy from when supe has every time traveled. This is much more energy than what Rose had in that episode. While using the New found energy to regenerate it self (if it was damaged by Supe)and power its heat shield to a level that can hold Supe off. Than using Supe’s genetic sample, it can change itself into a Superman/Dalek Hybrid. Than it can capture Supe(it is shown in Dalek in Manhatten, where he encased a human in a cocoon and merged with the human in order to become a Dalek/human hybrid.) and after that , with his new powers as superman does, he can merge much more quickly than before and there fore become a true Superman/Dalek hybrid and kill Prime. Was he has supes dna from being punched, there is nothing they can do.


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Dalek wins either using the method i just stated or by time travel. Explain how Supe can stop it from doing this.


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Shadow Archon wrote: Its not a robot or a cyborg. It is a metal shell controlled by a true Dalek.

Temporal shift was shown in Daleks in Manhattan.

Daleks can change their genetic structure to the cellular level. They can also use a human body and genetically make them self a human/Dalek hybrid.

Once Supe(Pre-crisis) touches him, it has a genetic sample of Supe and all the temporal energy from when supe has every time traveled. This is much more energy than what Rose had in that episode. While using the New found energy to regenerate it self (if it was damaged by Supe)and power its heat shield to a level that can hold Supe off. Than using Supe’s genetic sample, it can change itself into a Superman/Dalek Hybrid. Than it can capture Supe(it is shown in Dalek in Manhatten, where he encased a human in a cocoon and merged with the human in order to become a Dalek/human hybrid.) and after that , with his new powers as superman does, he can merge much more quickly than before and there fore become a true Superman/Dalek hybrid and kill Prime. Was he has supes dna from being punched, there is nothing they can do.



1) i doubt that a dalek can change its entire structure in less than .000001 seconds.

2) its only gonna have his physiology,the dalek would still need solar energy

3) he could just use concentrate his heat vision.

4) i dont think prime is going to just sit their and let it happen,the sheild would most likely break under the strength of the supes.


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