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Pre-Retcon Beyonder Vs. The Presence

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03-21-2011 11:14 PM
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The One Above All = Primal Monitor > Pre-Retcon Beyonder = Ellaine Bellock > The Living Tribunal = The Presence = Great Evil Beast > Lucifer Morning Star = Michael Demiurgos.

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Morph nli wrote: The One Above All = Primal Monitor > Pre-Retcon Beyonder = Ellaine Bellock > The Living Tribunal = The Presence = Great Evil Beast > Lucifer Morning Star = Michael Demiurgos.



I agree, for the most part.


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Primal monitor itself has nothing saying it’s omnipotent. For now it’s only nigh omni.


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Well, to be fair though, TOAA’s Omnipotence is debatable.


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03-21-2011 11:23 PM
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..Shit, the autocorrect changed Morningstar to Morning Star shocked

Eternal wrote: I agree, for the most part.


Enlighten me as to which parts aren’t agreeable so I can fix my chart if need be.

Shoddragon wrote: Primal monitor itself has nothing saying it’s omnipotent. For now it’s only nigh omni.


Perhaps that’s true but he’s obviously even more powerful than Elaine who shits on The Presence and Great Evil Beast so meh.

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The Over-monitor/Overvoid/Primal-monitor is to the Monitors what the Monitors are to creatures of the universes.

The Over-monitor has examined the Monitor’s world by probing it. He isn’t Madara, deal with it.


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Morph nli wrote: ..Shit, the autocorrect changed Morningstar to Morning Star shocked

Eternal wrote: I agree, for the most part.


Enlighten me as to which parts aren’t agreeable so I can fix my chart if need be.


The only one I don’t agree with is Bollock, she’s only universal, not multiversal, unlike the Beyonder.


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Morph nli wrote: Neither TOAA nor PM are actually omnipotent; they’re just the closest thing to it in fiction.

@Eternal: Even Lucy and Mike are multiversal and she becomes a lot more powerful after replacing Yahweh.



Conceded; though what puts her on the level of P.R. Beyonder?

You can’t kill the Beyonder without his consent.


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03-21-2011 11:55 PM
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The fact that he can be killed for one thing.
Even the Sentry can do that.
Elaine’s blatantly superior to everyone in DC aside from the elusive Primal Monitor.

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Morph nli wrote: The fact that he can be killed for one thing.
Even the Sentry can do that.
Elaine’s blatantly superior to everyone in DC aside from the elusive Primal Monitor.



I really don’t feel like debating, and I’m too lazy to debate, so I don’t care, it’s accurate.


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03-22-2011 12:11 AM
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Monster Cock wrote: The Over-monitor/Overvoid/Primal-monitor is to the Monitors what the Monitors are to creatures of the universes.

The Over-monitor has examined the Monitor’s world by probing it. He isn’t Madara, deal with it.



yeah hed make madaras vag bleed

narutard LOL what a faggot anime/manga

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Eternal wrote:

Morph nli wrote: ..Shit, the autocorrect changed Morningstar to Morning Star shocked

Eternal wrote: I agree, for the most part.


Enlighten me as to which parts aren’t agreeable so I can fix my chart if need be.


The only one I don’t agree with is Bollock, she’s only universal, not multiversal, unlike the Beyonder.


Haha, that made my day.


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Morph nli wrote: The One Above All = Primal Monitor > Pre-Retcon Beyonder = Ellaine Bellock > The Living Tribunal = The Presence = Great Evil Beast > Lucifer Morning Star = Michael Demiurgos.



So PM is Omni? And who is this Elaine? She must be packing some serious stuff to be considered Pre-Retcon Beyonder level.

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The Presence i think.


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03-22-2011 06:21 PM
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the beyonder is millions of times stronger than the living tribunal,thanos,galactus,eternity,all the celestails, combine with the HOTU,IG, power cosmic,and every thing in marvel combine

the pressence is probablly stronger than everything in DC combined IMPO i think overall DC > marvel so prresnce

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03-22-2011 06:22 PM
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and TOAA and Primal mpniter are stil weaker then pre recton algam brothers because its bin proven

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DC > Marvel? Really?

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The Presence is the DC top dog. It is their version of TOAA. So no the Beyonder doesn’t win.

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03-23-2011 03:47 PM
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Buuhan wrote: DC > Marvel? Really?

just my opinion

#39
04-23-2011 05:13 PM
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Morph nli wrote: The One Above All = Primal Monitor > Pre-Retcon Beyonder = Ellaine Bellock > The Living Tribunal = The Presence = Great Evil Beast > Lucifer Morning Star = Michael Demiurgos.


no

great evil beast=pressence > ellane
and spectre=living tribunal
and pre recton beyonder would loose because lucifer morning star is stronger then the the whole DC omniverse COMBINED he took an omniversral big bang and it didnt even effect him he is waeker then elaine and she is FAR weaker than the pressence and is waeker then the primal moniter who is waeker than the DC brother

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Beyonder.

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