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Canon feats only.
(Yes Raditz has his armor, I just liked the picture lol)
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He has a deadlier style (Hokuto Shinken), has Musou Tensei, very fast reaction, and can copy attacks. Plus, he also punches MUCH faster.
Raditz’s only advantage is that he can fly and shoot energy beams but he’s very arrogant and lacks any up close techniques that matches Ken’s.
Um, you do realize that Raditz armor covers up many preasure points, Raditz too has very fast reaction(Even his brother as a kid was dodging multiple machine guns firing at him with ease and I believe that was mid way through. Goku gets faster, and Raditz is even faster than that) Can you prove Kenshiro can copy ki attacks? And even if he can, it wouldn’t be on the same energy power level.
Also like I noted in the previous thread, A Kid Goku who can beat King Piccolo was CASUALLY flicked down by Kami. I don’t think I need to tell you that Piccolo junior is stronger than Kami and that Piccolo junior is weaker the Raditz(Well at the beginning of the series)
Piccolo and Goku were both martial arts experts, so Raditz taking on both of them at the same time casually is pretty damn impressive.
As for his “only” advantages, besides strength,speed, and probably durability, he has more firepower.
Also can you show me Ken’s best strength feat? Because just because you hit a pressure point doesn’t mean it will affect them(For example, would this manuever work on Superman prime?)
I’d say he is just like a typical saiyan. Wants to fight, very prideful,etc.
He was arrofant towards Goku and Piccolo because he was like twice their powerlevel. He could have whooped them any point during the fight and killed them, but he didn’t because a saiyan loves to fight, and of course, Gohan’s sudden surge of power kinda stopped him too.
Indalecio wrote:
Um, you do realize that Raditz armor covers up many preasure points, Raditz too has very fast reaction(Even his brother as a kid was dodging multiple machine guns firing at him with ease and I believe that was mid way through. Goku gets faster, and Raditz is even faster than that) Can you prove Kenshiro can copy ki attacks? And even if he can, it wouldn’t be on the same energy power level.
Also like I noted in the previous thread, A Kid Goku who can beat King Piccolo was CASUALLY flicked down by Kami. I don’t think I need to tell you that Piccolo junior is stronger than Kami and that Piccolo junior is weaker the Raditz(Well at the beginning of the series)
Piccolo and Goku were both martial arts experts, so Raditz taking on both of them at the same time casually is pretty damn impressive.
As for his “only” advantages, besides strength,speed, and probably durability, he has more firepower.
Also can you show me Ken’s best strength feat? Because just because you hit a pressure point doesn’t mean it will affect them(For example, would this manuever work on Superman prime?)
It covers up many pressure points but not all of them. His arms, his legs, his head aren’t covered up and seeing how Gohan manage to crack his armor, I’m pretty sure Kenshiro can too. As for copying ki attacks, that’s one of the many techniques of Hokuto Shinken; after witnessing an attack, they would later do it themselves. Ken even copied an energy blast too.
Indalecio wrote:
Um, you do realize that Raditz armor covers up many preasure points, Raditz too has very fast reaction(Even his brother as a kid was dodging multiple machine guns firing at him with ease and I believe that was mid way through. Goku gets faster, and Raditz is even faster than that) Can you prove Kenshiro can copy ki attacks? And even if he can, it wouldn’t be on the same energy power level.
Also like I noted in the previous thread, A Kid Goku who can beat King Piccolo was CASUALLY flicked down by Kami. I don’t think I need to tell you that Piccolo junior is stronger than Kami and that Piccolo junior is weaker the Raditz(Well at the beginning of the series)
Piccolo and Goku were both martial arts experts, so Raditz taking on both of them at the same time casually is pretty damn impressive.
As for his “only” advantages, besides strength,speed, and probably durability, he has more firepower.
Also can you show me Ken’s best strength feat? Because just because you hit a pressure point doesn’t mean it will affect them(For example, would this manuever work on Superman prime?)
It covers up many pressure points but not all of them. His arms, his legs, his head aren’t covered up and seeing how Gohan manage to crack his armor, I’m pretty sure Kenshiro can too. As for copying ki attacks, that’s one of the many techniques of Hokuto Shinken; after witnessing an attack, they would later do it themselves. Ken even copied an energy blast too.
Also the feats with Kenshiro, while impressive is nothing Raditz couldn’t deal with. This anime scene happened in the manga. So it’s fair game
We also get a glimpse at how fast he flies. He says 1000 some kilometers IIRC in the manga to Kame house. But anyway, we got Piccolo here, the guy who in his previous incarnation was wrecking cities and during the budikai Piccolo nuked an island pretty much. Anyway, We got all this power concentrated on Raditz.
I’d say Raditz’s armor is pretty durable wouldn’t you? Gohan cracked it because his sudden surge in power was greater than Raditz’s.
Then of course we got the mountain range level of power, possibly moon level(Piccolo one shots the moon a few hours later easily.)
And some other strength feats, I remember Tao Pai Pai gently hitting a pillar and it collapsed and he proceded to launch and use it for cross country travel. Throwing shit across countries of the weight of pillars is pretty impressive. Goku exceeds him in strength by the end of part one for sure, and he exceeds Kami. Raditz exceeds 23rd budokai Goku in raw strength too.
Yes. I do believe he is. Though I will give Kenshiro that he has a more deadly style in physical combat, Raditz is more deadly overall. I mean the guy can destroy mountain ranges and probably the moon.
Eternal Darkness wrote:
I must say Kenshiro if he touches Raditz the fight could be decided there and then
Just because that stuff happens to lower level dudes doesn’t mean it will happen to Raditz. Remember General Blue’s paralizing thing didn’t work on Tao and Tao killed him with his tongue? It’s somewhat the same concept here.
Also the feats with Kenshiro, while impressive is nothing Raditz couldn’t deal with. This anime scene happened in the manga. So it’s fair game
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We also get a glimpse at how fast he flies. He says 1000 some kilometers IIRC in the manga to Kame house. But anyway, we got Piccolo here, the guy who in his previous incarnation was wrecking cities and during the budikai Piccolo nuked an island pretty much. Anyway, We got all this power concentrated on Raditz.
That blast unlikely equaled a nuke. Heck, it wasn’t even Piccolo’s strongest attack.
Indalecio wrote:
I’d say Raditz’s armor is pretty durable wouldn’t you? Gohan cracked it because his sudden surge in power was greater than Raditz’s.
Then of course we got the mountain range level of power, possibly moon level(Piccolo one shots the moon a few hours later easily.)
And some other strength feats, I remember Tao Pai Pai gently hitting a pillar and it collapsed and he proceded to launch and use it for cross country travel. Throwing shit across countries of the weight of pillars is pretty impressive. Goku exceeds him in strength by the end of part one for sure, and he exceeds Kami. Raditz exceeds 23rd budokai Goku in raw strength too.
It’s impressive but lifting boulders are pretty impressive too.
I’m not sure how durable his armor is, even though it has helped Vegeta. But I would say that Kenshiro can at least put some cracks on it too.
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