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GodHandTheWorld wrote:

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GodHandTheWorld wrote: Dio would stand a much better chance against Raditz than Kenshiro, and guess what? He’d probably still lose. Kenshiro isn’t doing shit in this fight. Raditz will either kill Kenshiro before he uses Musou Tensei, or he will just fly in the air and start lobbing ki blasts at Kenny, so fast that he wont even be able to dodge. These are the only results of this fight. Ken isn’t tanking ANY hits from Raditz.



Ken won’t be taking hits from Raditz well. If he can get up MT and grab Raditz’s tail, he has a chance. If not, he’s screwed.

Kenshiro isn’t going to use Musou Tensei right off the bat against someone whom he doesn’t even know of. Usually he’ll just strike a few pressure points here and there. Most of the time he lets his no name opponents come at him to attack. I can promise you that if Raditz makes the first move, it’s game over.

In character Kenny just stands there and waits for Raditz to attack. Out of character Kenny goes intangible right off the bat, Raditz flies out of Kenny’s range and waits for his intangibility to run out. So either way it’s gg Kenny,




my don’t you look at the scans when roah is trying to attack him. i love how you say these stupid things. kenshiro would learn in a short time and tell him. he isn’t nothing and end his life


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katana your a joke, the musou tensin is intangible, and he strikes your points from all over. king showed you what happened when he read the ayoi tablet, this is the ki sealing fist destroying tech.

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fucking idiots, hokuto shinken can learn an opponents moves, skills, and copy them in your 1st steps, and then ken can tell you what ur doing wrong, like the souther fight, or any ken fight.

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thanos420 wrote: godhand your a joke, the musou tensin is intangible, and he strikes your points from all over. king showed you what happened when he read the ayoi tablet, this is the ki sealing fist destroying tech.



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funny raoh shot ki blast at ken when they both where flying idiot point blank and ken moved away, shut up jizzhand u dont know shit. can raditz stop ki sealing techs, of fist destroying attacks

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this shows how much of an idiot you are, raditz wont even think much of ken cuz these fools go off of ki sensing, and since ken doesn’t have a level, raditz would do like he did to gohan,underestimate

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kenshiro does feats like this in early hnk

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v17/c201/11.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v17/c201/12.html

destroying mountain tops

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v17/c202/10.html


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GodHandTheWorld wrote: Kenshiro isn’t going to use Musou Tensei right off the bat against someone whom he doesn’t even know of. Usually he’ll just strike a few pressure points here and there. Most of the time he lets his no name opponents come at him to attack. I can promise you that if Raditz makes the first move, it’s game over.



Ken’s pretty durable though.

In character Kenny just stands there and waits for Raditz to attack. Out of character Kenny goes intangible right off the bat, Raditz flies out of Kenny’s range and waits for his intangibility to run out. So either way it’s gg Kenny,



He can still attack if he’s intangible.

thanos420 wrote: this shows how much of an idiot you are, raditz wont even think much of ken cuz these fools go off of ki sensing, and since ken doesn’t have a level, raditz would do like he did to gohan,underestimate



I think Kenshiro can sense/control chi. Yeah, he was surprised that Gohan was that strong since he relied too much on his scouter.


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Kaoru Hanayama wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote: Kenshiro isn’t going to use Musou Tensei right off the bat against someone whom he doesn’t even know of. Usually he’ll just strike a few pressure points here and there. Most of the time he lets his no name opponents come at him to attack. I can promise you that if Raditz makes the first move, it’s game over.



Ken’s pretty durable though.

In character Kenny just stands there and waits for Raditz to attack. Out of character Kenny goes intangible right off the bat, Raditz flies out of Kenny’s range and waits for his intangibility to run out. So either way it’s gg Kenny,



He can still attack if he’s intangible.

thanos420 wrote: this shows how much of an idiot you are, raditz wont even think much of ken cuz these fools go off of ki sensing, and since ken doesn’t have a level, raditz would do like he did to gohan,underestimate



I think Kenshiro can sense/control chi. Yeah, he was surprised that Gohan was that strong since he relied too much on his scouter.

He’s not more durable than Goku or Piccolo. Both of whom Raditz wtf owned.

Also, he won’t get the chance to use Musou Tensei. Raditz can attack faster than Kenny can activate the tech. Even IF he could get it off before Raditz smokes him, Raditz can always fly off outta range and nuke him from the sky. Kenshiro isn’t winning this.


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He’s not more durable than Goku or Piccolo. Both of whom Raditz wtf owned.



He did at first till Goku did this:

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v17/c204/7.html
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v17/c204/8.html
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v17/c204/9.html

Also, he won’t get the chance to use Musou Tensei. Raditz can attack faster than Kenny can activate the tech.



How fast is Raditz? Ken can just will MT with a though.

Even IF he could get it off before Raditz smokes him, Raditz can always fly off outta range and nuke him from the sky. Kenshiro isn’t winning this.



Muso Tensei gives immunity to ki attacks and physical attacks though. That’s why Kenshiro can’t beat Frieza, Cell, Super Buu, and Kid Buu. They’ll just BFR Ken in MT via nuking the planet. XD


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when they have parts of their bodies explode and keep fighting then talk about durability, ive seen dbz get hurt, blood shows and they act like bitches. gohan got shot by cell and his arm was done.

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when they have a skyscraper fall on their heads only to walk threw it and cut it on half talk to me. jizzhand forgot to talk about the aoyi tablet, that has the hokuto gods secret style in it

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believe me if ken grabs that tail, omg how fucking weak is that, if ken does that its all over, i still havent seen them kill without moving a muscle

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Muso Tensei used differently on Kiaoh. kenshiro in a coma uses the technique.




















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please godhand you just don’t want another lose under you lol


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You say its a no limit fallacy that Kens moves would not work on a being with Raditz level durability, that’s fine so Ill use techs that show why Ken could land the blow&s and use them to damage Raditz body.

First using,

Suieishin: The technique used to absorb other fighting styles. Ken copied a Nanto Koukaku Ken move with this while fighting Shuu.

Using this Ken can learn any ability or move Raditz uses so anything Raditz has Ken will be more than prepared for, as for keeping up and hitting Raditz?,

Kenshiro can use Hokuto Senjukai Ken: Thousand Hand Destruction Fist. Instant thousand-hand punch used on a Kiba Ichizoku member.

Ken can form 1000 fist&s in one instant far surpassing Raditz speed and using this speed Ken can easily strike any point on Raditz, as for damaging him with the blows...using,

Hokuto Juu Hazan: Hokuto Soft-Breaking Slash. This was used to penetrate Hearts flesh to press his pressure point.

Ken could use this to penetrate Raditz tough damenor or,

Daikyoukin: Hikou that made Kiba Daious body soft.

Ken can use this to easily lower Raditz dexterity to make him softer than even a regular human being.

I know what ur thinking HOW douse Kenshiro get close to raditz to use his amazing skills???,

Musou Tensei: The Ultimate Hokuto Attack, this could only be done by completely understanding sadness. Kenshiro was the first one in thousands of years to do it, but Raoul also learned it.

Ken can use this to become intangible to evade any major attacks Raditz could use to harm him, and also use this to read every move Raditz is going to make.

Once he has activated this Ken can use an assortment of moves like,

Kisha: Pressure point that froze Yazaki.

Ken could use this attack to freeze Raditz in his tracks and dispose of him however he pleases or using,

Shinichi: Tsubo that forces one to speak. Used on Fox.

Ken could use this to make Raditz divulge his weak spot or anything else Ken desired, or dispose of his body using,

Hokuto Zankai Ken: Fist of Remorse. Two thumbs hit the temples, striking Toui. This gives its victim three seconds to feel remorse for ones sins.

If Ken chooses he can use this simple and not physically strong tapping of the pressure point to kill Raditz in 3 seconds flat or,

Shinfukumen: Tsubo causes instant destruction upon movement of victim.

Ken can let Raditz destroy himself if he feels the need however if merciful Ken could let him live and just use,

Zusetsu: Tsubo below temples that erases memory.

By merely taping Raditz temples Ken could erase Raditz memory, then while confused use,

Doumei: Pressure point that takes away eyesight.

Ken could easily take Raditz sight away leaving the saiyan with no ability to find him as Raditz cannot seance power signatures and would now have no memory of who he was.

And if extra cruel Ken could then simply use,

Hokuto Dankotsu Kin: Self-Destruction Muscles. Used against Jackals boxer. Muscles freak out.

Raditz body would be out of control and Raditz would suffer spasms and be unable to move his body accordingly ever again.

After that ordeal Id use,

Zenha: The Panting Defeat. Stopped Geila from breathing.

This will defeat and kill Raditz no question.

Oh and Just so people know Kenshiro can fly, and tank blow’s witch destroy cities, so Raditz has nowere to hide:



Ken show’s off his beastly skill:

Take’s on an Army


Ken’s beastly endurance


Kenshiro stop’s a train:


Best Pwnage:


And these demonstrate how ken is able to manipulate Chi to weaken and deflect blast’s.






















Any questions cus i think Kenshiro has this won given his skills over Raditz


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thanos420 wrote: when they have parts of their bodies explode and keep fighting then talk about durability, ive seen dbz get hurt, blood shows and they act like bitches. gohan got shot by cell and his arm was done.



thats not durability ( getting injured and fighting on is toughness , different thing )
gohan was also only 11 years old. And ive brought up pleanty of times when dbz toons have fought with massive injuries. When goku fought piccolo in the 23rd tournament he finished the fight with both his legs broken and a big fist sized hole through his chest and he still managed to fight back against piccolo , dodge a finishing ki blast and knock piccolo out. with broken legs and a big hole in him. Or when piccolo fought against raditz and had his arm blown off , yes piccolo grew the arm back , but not untill AFTER the fight when raditz was dead. Tien also lost an half an arm against Nappa and still attacked afterwards.

thanos420 wrote: when they have a skyscraper fall on their heads only to walk threw it and cut it on half talk to me. jizzhand forgot to talk about the aoyi tablet, that has the hokuto gods secret style in it



^ this is durability , taking an attack and not being hurt much by it.


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thanos420 wrote: when they have parts of their bodies explode and keep fighting then talk about durability, ive seen dbz get hurt, blood shows and they act like bitches. gohan got shot by cell and his arm was done.



thats not durability ( getting injured and fighting on is toughness , different thing )
gohan was also only 11 years old. And ive brought up pleanty of times when dbz toons have fought with massive injuries. When goku fought piccolo in the 23rd tournament he finished the fight with both his legs broken and a big fist sized hole through his chest and he still managed to fight back against piccolo , dodge a finishing ki blast and knock piccolo out. with broken legs and a big hole in him. Or when piccolo fought against raditz and had his arm blown off , yes piccolo grew the arm back , but not untill AFTER the fight when raditz was dead. Tien also lost an half an arm against Nappa and still attacked afterwards.

thanos420 wrote: when they have a skyscraper fall on their heads only to walk threw it and cut it on half talk to me. jizzhand forgot to talk about the aoyi tablet, that has the hokuto gods secret style in it



^ this is durability , taking an attack and not being hurt much by it.



Another skyscraper feat lol. Skyscrapers falling on the head is not a big feat since well a few layers of concrete and glass then nothing because well buildings are HOLLOW. Now if the skyscraper was a none hollow full solid steel then it could be a feat.

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the Skyscrapers fell on kenshrios head as he ketp walk it spit in 2. i would say that is a great feat of durability


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heavenly king wrote: the Skyscrapers fell on kenshrios head as he ketp walk it spit in 2. i would say that is a great feat of durability



Yeah, Raditz died when he got shot through the chest. Ken and Raoh had holes through their chests and they still kept fighting. o_O


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