Sasuke Uchiha wrote:
And? Kenshrio Has Power So If He Gets In A lot Of Hits On Him And Make Him Tierd Raditz Lose. But If Raditz Gets His Ablities On Him Kenshiro Loses.
lol Raditz won’t get tired that quickly. Physically he outmatches Ken. It will be similar to what he did to his brother and Piccolo only he doesn’t have to worry about two people. Though Ken has advantages Piccolo nor Goku had.
...you do realize Kenshiro is stronger and faster than Raditz is?
He actually isn’t.
Haha i think not
As i remember Raditz lifted a Car, Kenshiro could FLICK over a train carriage and lift up a boulder the size of a hill
In speed he can sure Raditz is fast but Kenshiro can actualy pass through physical form’s of others he is that fast
Kid Goku pushed a giant boulder up a hill before and going by feats he could just stand there and take that train carriage right on without moving. Then we have the fact that not only can Raditz rip through things like that with ease(Let’s face it, throwing shit across countries is more impressive than stopping a train. In the long run.) As for punching through physical forms, that was artistic effect, and Krillin and Roshi’s thing surpassed that because you just saw what you thought was them going passed each other, but they did bunches of shit without anyone noticing. SOnic Booms imply they are only going the speed of sound. That’s far inferior to bullet timing, which is something Kid Goku was doing. So don’t use sonic booms as proof of speed, because it hurts you here.
Sasuke Uchiha wrote:
Indalecio You Got Anything To Say?
Well the argument is absurd, i mean really Goku himself Pre Buu saga struggle’s to lift 40 ton’s base form Kenshiro has lifted that casually no sweat.
Wrong. He was wearing 40 tons on his limbs. MUCH harder than lifting it, and lifting has nothing to do with how hard you can punch anyway. You do realize that it matters about the speed of the punch more right?
But In The Show It Shows How Raditz Is And He Did Lift A lot of Cars And Things But Still Looking At Kenshiro Compared To Like Goku Vegata And The Rest Of Them Raditz Is Extra Weak But Now He Tough Can You Explain To Me How?
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Indalecio wrote:
He can use the same attack, but it wouldn’t have the same level of power, and his control of how powerful it is and such would be low since I don’t think he has expierence with ki energy.Like Goku didn’t when he first did Kamehameha right after seeing it once. That takes some skill, to understand how to do that after just seeing it once when the creator of the tech took him YEARS.
Anyway, Ken may have deadlier techniques as Raditz doesn’t have any of those fancy h2h techs. But he does have immense strength and he took two fighters to the limits and lets be honest,Raditz was defeated by some what of a plot manner. He could have just flown in to the air and not got hit by Masenkepo.
Raditz won’t own him in one hit or anything, but I’m fairly sure Raditz does have the advantage. Though if Ken finds out about Raditz’s tail weaknesses he would win but the only reason they knew about that in the manga was because Goku had one at one point.
Whenever Kenshiro uses someone elses style or technique, he does it perfectly. I don’t see how this any different. Plus, he does have experience at shooting fireballs (he has a technique if his own that shoots a ki blast, even though it’s a little different from a DBZ blast).
Well he was too injured to do any fighting. Flying MAY require using energy that I don’t think he was in a condition to do.
I don’t think Ken will need to use Raditz tail to beat him. That’s just what I think.
But he won’t be using it on the same level of power. For instance, if Raditz shoots a mountain range buster, Ken won’t be doing that, and even if he does, it will drain him of his energy.
Sasuke Uchiha wrote:
But In The Show It Shows How Raditz Is And He Did Lift A lot of Cars And Things But Still Looking At Kenshiro Compared To Like Goku Vegata And The Rest Of Them Raditz Is Extra Weak But Now He Tough Can You Explain To Me How?
To understand how powerful Raditz is, you have to compare him to the characters that are far inferior to him. For instance Tao was able to throw a pillar across country and ride on it. That is pretty many tons of force needed for that. Then we got the fact the air from Goku’s punches knock people out. That would take a lot of force, and he was not meaning to, and he was holding back. Kami flicking Goku which is no easy task to move him by our own standards and it knocked Goku back, and there is the fact Goku became more powerful than that and Raditz is more powerful than Goku.
Raditz is by no means “weak sauce” when compared to Dragonball part 1. In fact, in Dragonball part 1 he would basically be invincible.
Sasuke Uchiha wrote:
So Raditz Is Weaker But Ken Loses This Match.
Raditz is not weaker. Even if Ken outmatched him in strength, Raditz always has his mountain range busting power, which if it hits Ken, I’m sure he’d be done for. If not from one useage, Raditz could spam it. It doesn’t seem to take much of his energy, it didn’t seem to take much of Piccolo, who is weaker, to blow up the moon either.
Well you tell me, Goku and Piccolo are both martial arts experts, both destroyed the top martial artists in the world easily. Goku was trained by Kami and Roshi, and Piccolo basically matched him. So they are very trained, and Raditz matched them BOTH at the same time with ease. Raditz has more skill than BOTH of them by this point and they are the most skill and most powerful heroes on earth at this time.
Sasuke Uchiha wrote:
And? Kenshrio Has Power So If He Gets In A lot Of Hits On Him And Make Him Tierd Raditz Lose. But If Raditz Gets His Ablities On Him Kenshiro Loses.
lol Raditz won’t get tired that quickly. Physically he outmatches Ken. It will be similar to what he did to his brother and Piccolo only he doesn’t have to worry about two people. Though Ken has advantages Piccolo nor Goku had.
...you do realize Kenshiro is stronger and faster than Raditz is?
He actually isn’t.
Haha i think not
As i remember Raditz lifted a Car, Kenshiro could FLICK over a train carriage and lift up a boulder the size of a hill
In speed he can sure Raditz is fast but Kenshiro can actualy pass through physical form’s of others he is that fast
Kid Goku pushed a giant boulder up a hill before and going by feats he could just stand there and take that train carriage right on without moving. Then we have the fact that not only can Raditz rip through things like that with ease(Let’s face it, throwing shit across countries is more impressive than stopping a train. In the long run.) As for punching through physical forms, that was artistic effect, and Krillin and Roshi’s thing surpassed that because you just saw what you thought was them going passed each other, but they did bunches of shit without anyone noticing. SOnic Booms imply they are only going the speed of sound. That’s far inferior to bullet timing, which is something Kid Goku was doing. So don’t use sonic booms as proof of speed, because it hurts you here.
Edit: thought id make this easier
Adult Goku cannot lift more than 40 ton’s fact my friend Kenshiro has Flicked that over and lifted many time’s that weight.
When did Raditz stop a train in it’s track’s?
Master Roshi and Krillin were moving to fast to see they did not however move while time itself appeared frozen, put it this way Kenshiro’s opponent himself was a super speedster and not even HE could follow Kenshiro’s movements.
After saying all of that Kenshiro actually passing through solid substance is faster than any feat in dragonball, he douse this again when fighting Roah.
I’m not kidding have u seen Kenshiro’s arsenal of abilities thus far, very admirable.
Kenshiro
Kisha: Pressure point that froze Yazaki.
Goshi Retsu Dan: Five Finger Fury Bullets Explodes fingers. Used on Club.
Hokuto Souryuu Ha: Hokuto Twin Dragon Wave Two fists to the chest; killed Gouda.
Ryuusei Hagan Kyaku: Kick that split Saitou’s head.
Honsha Bakuretsu: Circle kick that took out the Taisan soldiers.
Hokuto Koushu Gyakusetsu: Twisted a Taisan guy’s head around.
Hokuto Hyakuretsu Dan: Hundred Crack Snap Killed Baiken.
Hokuto Hyakuretsu Ken: Hundred Crack Fist “Atatatatatatatata!". Kenshiro’s standard rapid punch. First used on Zeed.
Nishi Shinkuu Ha: Two-Finger Nil-Space Grasp Kenshiro used this to flick Spade’s arrow into his eye.
Ganzan Ryouzan Ha: Mountain Split Fissure Wave Splits one’s skull in half. First used on a Spade soldier, then Kiba Daiou.
Hokuto Zankai Ken: Fist of Remorse. Two thumbs hit the temples, striking Toui. This gives its victim three seconds to feel remorse for one’s sins.
Koushu Hagan Ken: Face Breaking Fist Breaks face in half.
Zusetsu: Tsubo below temples that erases memory.
Meimon: Gate of Life. Tsubo that contracts muscles into snapping one’s spine.
Hokuto Juu Hazan: Hokuto Soft-Breaking Slash. This was used to penetrate Heart’s flesh to press his pressure point.
Hokuto Hiei Ken: Hokuto Flying Defensive Fist. The counter to Shin’s “Nanto Gokusatsu Ken”.
Hokuto Juuji Zan: Hokuto Cross Kill. Put the tsubo bloody cross on Shin.
Hokuto Goukin Bundan Kyaku: Steel Muscle Cutting Kick. Used on the thug outside Johnny’s bar; weakens muscles.
Meiken: Tsubo hit by the “Hokuto Soukin Jizai Kyaku” to the head. Used on Golan Commando to pull his hands apart to behead himself.
Teishin: The calming pressure point, used on Rima.
Kuukyoku Ryuubu: Empty Ultimate Flow Dance. Destroyed the Golan Colonel’s boomerangs.
Doumei: Pressure point that takes away eyesight, leaving the Colonel in darkness.
Hokuto Kaikotsu Ken: Bone Crushing Fist. Two fingers to the forehead; destroyed the Colonel.
Hokuto Kyomu Shidan: Hokuto Nothingness Finger Snap. Ken used this to erase the memories of Toyo’s water hole from Jackal’s men.
Hokuto Dankotsu Kin: Self-Destruction Muscles. Used against Jackal’s boxer. Muscles freak out.
Shinichi: Tsubo that forces one to speak. Used on Fox.
Tenryuu Kokyuu Hou: Art of the Dragon’s Breath. Apparently Kenshiro’s standard jacket-ripping muscle flex
Hokuto Shichishisei Ten: Seven Star Points of Death. The seven points in the Hokuto shape. Killed Devil Rebirth.
Shinfukumen: Tsubo causes instant destruction upon movement of victim. Used on a Kibi Ichizoku.
Hokuto Senjukai Ken: Thousand Hand Destruction Fist. Instant thousand-hand punch used on a Kiba Ichizoku member.
Kyounai: This Hikou locked Madara’s jaws permenantly open.
Seikyokurin: Holy Rings. This stance Ken took when he was forced to fight Rei.
Hokuto Ryuu Geki Ko: Hokuto Dragon Attacks Tiger. Stance Ken took to counter Rei’s Nanto Ko Ha Ryuu.
Daikyoukin: Hikou that made Kiba Daiou’s body soft.
Kenmei: Pressure point that restored Airi’s sight.
Hokuto Hachimon Kyuudan: Eighth Agony, Ninth Break. Kenshiro almost killed Jagi with this.
Seieikou: Ougi used to touch the Hikou Ryuugan.
Hikou Kyoutsui no Ryuugan: Killed Jagi
Zankai Sekiho Ken: Ougi hits Hikou Shitsugen, caused Amoeba to walk backwards.
Hokuto Kouretsu Ha: Hokuto Steel-rending Grasp. Destroyed Wiggul’s shoulder with six fingers only
Zushou: Pressure point that killed one of Ken-Ou’s Elite Guards.
Hokuto Shichishi Kihei Zan: Seven Death Cavalry Kill. Ken first wounded Raoul with this, cutting his face and breaking his helmet.
Keichuu kara Kafutou: Pressure points pushed on Dagarl to cause him great pain.
Suieishin: Water Shadow Spirit. The technique used to absorb other fighting styles. Ken copied a Nanto Koukaku Ken move with this while fighting Shuu.
Jikyuukyou: Hikou that caused Beji and Giji to throw their knives at each other.
Jinchuukyoku: Hikou that did not work on Souther.
Tenha no Kamae: Heaven Breaking Stance. Resembles the Hokuto constellaton
Tenha Katsu Satsu: “Touki” blast that shot the Hokuto symbol through Souther
Hokuto Ujou Moushouha: Hokuto Ujou Fierce Flying Rip. Toki’s merciful attack that Ken finished Souther with.
Musou Tensei: Nil-thought Reincarnation. The Ultimate Hokuto Attack, this could only be done by completely understanding sadness. Kenshiro was the first one in thousands of years to do it, but Raoul also learned it.
Zenha: The Panting Defeat. Stopped Geila from breathing
Jouketsukai: Ken disabled his right leg with this tsubo to match Falco.
Kaketsu: Pressure point pressed on Falco, which Falco self-cauderized.
Shihourin: Hikou that Ken pressed on himself to read the inscription at Taiseiden.
Kentou Shadan: Fist-Stealing Sacrifice Judgment. Went through Kaiou’s block and weakened his hands.
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