. Break’s steel bar’s to escape prison
. Destroys wrecking ball with one kick
. Stop’s 2 construction digger’s, and slice’s a giant wrecking ball in half with his hand,
. Decimates a tank with a barrage of blow’s causing it 2 blow up.
. Easily shrug’s 3 men aside, then another 16 men in total (count them all when he throw’s them aside 1 take’s awhile to land) try to move him to no avail, he then pick’s all 16 of them above his head and tosses them aside with ease.
. Kenshiro stop’s a man posesing incredible super strength and weighing 500kg’s with only 6 finger’s.
. Kenshiro tear’s down a huge portion of a cliff wall to stop a Dam flooding a village.
. Kenshiro punches a ram in half halting the two motorbike’s that are toeing it in their track’s.
. Ken’s aura disintegrates a man and hold’s up a waterfall.
. Ken stop’s a train in it’s track’s with one arm.
. Ken carry’s a huge boulder with little effort or strain.
Feat’s of speed:
. Ken punche’s a man so fast it practically is seen lifting him into the air.
. Ken dodge’s and catches an arrow at close range with virtual ease
. Ken manages to catch a spear before it kill’s his young friend.
. Ken move’s so fast that he continually take’s the back of a fellow super speedster
. Ken’s reflex’s save him from getting a blade in his face
. Ken punches a man 1000 time’s in one move
. Ken easily defeat’s a monster that move’s so fat it appears to be 5 opponent’s.
. Ken avoids every blow of the 1000 fist strike
. Ken cannot even be seen by a fellow super speedster
. Ken not only dodge’s a weapon so fast it seems invisible but tie’s it in a bow without even moving
. Ken save’s Lynn from a fatal arrow attack at the last second
. Ken manages to strike every vital point without his brother seeing within their first encounter and douse not reveal that he left the last one for fear of killing his brother until after their battle.
. Ken fight’s on par with an opponent who’s fist is said to be as fast as the wind.
. Ken toy’s with a Hokto elite who cannot even see Ken move from 1 place 2 the next
. Ken block’s 1109 attack’s at once.
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Indalecio wrote:
Yes. I do believe he is. Though I will give Kenshiro that he has a more deadly style in physical combat, Raditz is more deadly overall. I mean the guy can destroy mountain ranges and probably the moon.
Technically aren’t mountain ranges harder to destroy than the moon?
Ok, granted its 1/6 the size of Earth but its mass is only 1%...
show me one person in db that punches so fast that they don’t have a shadow. better yet i want to see a db or dbz character have big holes put in their body and still fight
show me one person in db that punches so fast that they don’t have a shadow. better yet i want to see a db or dbz character have big holes put in their body and still fight
Yeah leaving no shadow is pretty slow compared to um...MID TIER Dragonball characters. They don’t even leave an image. In fact, I’d say that’s SLOWER than mid tier Dragonball part 1. Krillin vs Roshi, they are portrayed VERY much faster than “NO SHADOW”.
I still don’t see how Raditz beat’s Ken, no fanboyism just i don’t see what Raditz has that would truely harm Kenshiro.
Raditz is known to be cocky - Kenshiro always go’s for the kill shot.
Raditz has been Known to enter close combat - in physical ability and skill Ken is more than a match for Raditz and using Hakto Shin Ken has a massive advantage.
Raditz Tail is a huge weakness - If Ken get’s hold of that Rad can kiss his ass goodbye.
Statistics:
1. He douse not have the skill (Hokto Shin Ken 6000 years old)
2. He douse not have the strength (Stoping a train with one arm lifting hill sized boulder’s)
3. He douse not have the Speed (1000 blow’s a second stopping 1109 blow’s in a second)
4. He douse not posses the same level of control over his bodies energies. (Can’t seance and douse not have a proper understanding of Chi control)
5. Raditz has alot of dire power but against an opponent who can go intangible, read your every move and copy them, that’s never likely to be the deciding factor in this fight.
6. In close combat The fight is Kenshiro’s because of 2 major factor’s
a, Hakto shin ken, using a variety of move’s Kenshiro can take control of Raditz body and dispose of him using his own bodies chi.
b, Power and strength mean little when using Hakto shin Ken, many is the time Ken has merely tapped an opponent and killed them just from a touch so logically it douse not matter what Raditz can tank for Strength isn’t what seal’s his doom it’s his own bodies Ki.
So realistically aside from power output Kenshiro is set to decimate Raditz both physically and mentally when paring up their statistic’s.
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if ken gets a hit in from close combat yes raditz is dead. But raditz is at least a moon buster , his power level is what 1200 or so , which is far far more then is needed to blow a moon , roshi did it with only a few hundred , although he had to charge for that which probably raised his power a few more hundred , piccolo did it casually while training gohan and he would have been under 1000 at that point too , he was sitting around 300-400 when he faced raditz and he blew the moon not long after that , can kenshiro really take an attack that powerful? So it would seem kenshiro wins in a close combat fight , but if raditz doesnt muck about then hed just blow kenshiro away.
show me one person in db that has a fighting feat that’s better then these
thats really irrelevant. If he cant tank a moon buster then he cant survive the fight. And i really dont know why you make such a big deal about HIS speed over dbz level speed. Ok heres one for you , burta from the ginyu force is incredibly fast he once demonstrates this when effortlessly taking flight at incredible speed to retrieve a Dragon Ball thrown across the horizon by Vegeta, an attempt to keep the artifact from Frieza’s possession. Hes so fast that hes flown , caught the ball flown back and landed back in his spot before vegeta has even landed back on his feet after throwing the ball away. And when the ginyu force fights goku their speed is nothing to him. Hes so fast that he can dodge all their attacks , physical and ki , without appearing to move at all , to all watching him its as if hes simply ethereal and all the attacks are passing through him.
And i know people have shown scans of the fight between krillin and master roshi during the martial arts tournament in dragonball. Their is one clash in that fight that appears to the crowd to simply have been one blow between the combatants , but when questioned they reveal that there had been several and also that master roshi and krillin had time to play rock paper scissors ( which roshi initiated as a distraction ) they also have time to spit and blow their noses at each other and then for roshi to leap up behind krillin while he was distracted from the rockpaper and spit ruse and kick him across the ring. all this occurred in a split second. And this is all low level speed in dragonball and dbz
AND that scan doesnt say his movements have no shadow , it says " moves so quick none can SEE its shadow " that doesnt mean alot , it could be those watching are slow and cant see well , id say your overestimating the speed comparasion. Goku was capable as a child during the tournaments of moving so fast that he appeared to vanish completely. Having blurring arms is not so impressive , the eyes ability to track movement is pathetic compared to the speed the rest of the body is capable of functioning at.
ok also goku has fought with incredible injuries. During his fight against piccolo ( not king piccolo ) he suffered broken legs and a large hole through his chest and still managed to dodge piccolos ki blast and fly up into the sky and dive bomb piccolo and take him down. For a guy who says hes a DBZ fan you seem to rate them fairly low heavenly king.
Can Kenshiro tank a city buster level attack? Because King Piccolo blew up a city with little effort that even Kid Goku had to dodge with the help of Tien’s flight.
Go2movies wrote:
Who do you know in DB that can carry a boulder?
Umm I dunno oh wait yes I do Goku as a child so that trumps his stregnth.
Krillin as a child and Roshi left no Images when they were fighting so that trumps his speed.
Also a person who could level a city and bust multiply moons is going to have no trouble with Kenshiro
Stop wanking.
Stop lying. Goku as a child never lifted a boulder.
Kenshiro left no shadows when he punched so no, their speed doesn’t trump it.
Also, those blasts won’t hurt Ken if he’s using Musou Tensei.
Stop wanking.
Yes kid goku straped a boulder to his back and even swam with it to be able to put on his weighted vest.
Your shadow moves as fast as you do so if i cant see your arm i will not be able to see your shadow. The whole shadow thing is irrelevent.
KatanaX wrote:
LOL wow now I see where moses is coming from you are stupid Kid goku did lift and move boulders so did kid Krillin.
Hmmm whats better not seeing a shadow or not seeing the person? It must be the Shadow thats sooooooo much more impressive LOL.
Wow so what he just stays intangible? Because the second he goes solid he is going to get stomped.
Stop wanking please your embarrassing yourself.
Okay prove it then. Stop trolling and show me where Goku was lifting a boulder.
You said not seeing “images”. THAT’S suppose to be more impressive than Kenshiro’s speed? lol
pola wrote:
Yes kid goku straped a boulder to his back and even swam with it to be able to put on his weighted vest.
Your shadow moves as fast as you do so if i cant see your arm i will not be able to see your shadow. The whole shadow thing is irrelevent.
I don’t think you necessarily understand the feat but okay.
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KatanaX wrote:
LOL wow now I see where moses is coming from you are stupid Kid goku did lift and move boulders so did kid Krillin.
Hmmm whats better not seeing a shadow or not seeing the person? It must be the Shadow thats sooooooo much more impressive LOL.
Wow so what he just stays intangible? Because the second he goes solid he is going to get stomped.
Stop wanking please your embarrassing yourself.
Okay prove it then. Stop trolling and show me where Goku was lifting a boulder.
You said not seeing “images”. THAT’S suppose to be more impressive than Kenshiro’s speed? lol
pola wrote:
Yes kid goku straped a boulder to his back and even swam with it to be able to put on his weighted vest.
Your shadow moves as fast as you do so if i cant see your arm i will not be able to see your shadow. The whole shadow thing is irrelevent.
I don’t think you necessarily understand the feat but okay.
ok heres some of gokus training as a child , like hes only 11 or 12 here at most. Skipping for miles and miles and miles ect and if you skip to about 7 min you’l see goku push a HUGE rock.
or heres goku training on his way to namek with increased gravity due to a artifical gravity machine on the ship. He builds up from 20 times the gravity of earth and maxes out at 100 times. Plus all the exercises hes doing ( if youve seen the actual episodes ) hes doing 10,000 reps of each before he changes exercise. He also survives being right next to a sun after a meteor knocks his ship off course and has enough power in his kameaha wave to escape the stars gravity.
ANd you people keep craping on about kenshiros speed and his lack of shadow rubbish, his speed is mid dragonball speed , not even z speed. Goku as a child was able to move so fast that he disappeared entirely. AS in he was invisible. AS A CHILD. Thats much more impressive then just throwing fast punches .
Also during dragonball kami takes goku for special training to get him ready to face piccolo reborn. He starts this training as 13 years old and hes doing things such as running up mountains dragging huge boulders behind him , or swimming in the ocean with rocks tied to him , or dodging lightning strikes with a lightning conductor on his head.
Kenshiro ftw he can move so fast he go’s invisable just like Raditz and has shown much better feat’s of strength here
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