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BIG timer 2.0 wrote: Second, we will continue with the life regeneration ability. Now, if Jak is about to pass out, the light eco can heal his HP back to 16, right? But what would happen if he runs out of light eco and his health is extremely low (let’s say at 2)? Don’t tell me Ratchet’s weapons can’t even take 2HP easily. Those are fully upgraded weapons that at least can take 4-6 HP depending which one is used. Imagine Jak, using his last eco to heal himself when Ratchet, with the Omega Alpha Cannon equipped, incinerating him him just before he can use the Supernova.


he can use the supernova while he slows time down.

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Third, the invisibility ability. Now, if you think Jak prefers to pick up an extremely heavy and bulky statue, just to make him slow and to break his back like a twig, he’s not going to last 5 minutes in the fight.

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BIG timer 2.0 wrote: Third, the invisibility ability. Now, if you think Jak prefers to pick up an extremely heavy and bulky statue, just to make him slow and to break his back like a twig, he’s not going to last 5 minutes in the fight.


who said invisibility was in this?
i said he can SLOW DOWN TIME seriously pay attention and rebut what i say...don’t ramble on making a hypothetical situation where the odds are in your favor.

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And now: the time slowing ability. This, would definitely turn the tables. Unfortunately, Ratchet has a trick under his sleeve (actually, two tricks): the Golden Groovitron. This gadget can and will oblige ANY enemy (turrets, bosses like Emperor Tachyon, etc.) to enter in a dancing trance. The best thing from the Golden Groovitron is that it deploys INFINITE disco balls. The dancing trance is so deep that Jak can get vulnerable enough to get attacked mercilessly by 900 rounds of the RYNO 4EVER. That weapon is so powerful, that Emperor Tachyon can be defeated in seconds. Try to compare the 16HP from a dancing, I-can’t-do-anything-to-save-my-life Jak to the enduring Tachyon. RYNO4EVER.

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how can he use a weapon if he’s dead before he can pull it out?

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J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote: Third, the invisibility ability. Now, if you think Jak prefers to pick up an extremely heavy and bulky statue, just to make him slow and to break his back like a twig, he’s not going to last 5 minutes in the fight.


who said invisibility was in this?
i said he can SLOW DOWN TIME seriously pay attention and rebut what i say...don’t ramble on making a hypothetical situation where the odds are in your favor.


Who cares about invisibility?

Just before Jak activates the slow down time, Ratchet can deploy a Golden Groovitron to make him dance to his death.

One more thing: The odds aren’t in my favor, they are on Ratchet’s side. And who’s talking about hypothetical situations?

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BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote: Third, the invisibility ability. Now, if you think Jak prefers to pick up an extremely heavy and bulky statue, just to make him slow and to break his back like a twig, he’s not going to last 5 minutes in the fight.


who said invisibility was in this?
i said he can SLOW DOWN TIME seriously pay attention and rebut what i say...don’t ramble on making a hypothetical situation where the odds are in your favor.


Who cares about invisibility?

Just before Jak activates the slow down time, Ratchet can deploy a Golden Groovitron to make him dance to his death.

One more thing: The odds aren’t in my favor, they are on Ratchet’s side. And who’s talking about hypothetical situations?




for one you kept saying “if jak did ______ rachet would_____" = hypothetical not including anything that jack could do to counter....

again i’ll say it he can slow down time BEFORE he pulls out his gun. get it?

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J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote: Third, the invisibility ability. Now, if you think Jak prefers to pick up an extremely heavy and bulky statue, just to make him slow and to break his back like a twig, he’s not going to last 5 minutes in the fight.


who said invisibility was in this?
i said he can SLOW DOWN TIME seriously pay attention and rebut what i say...don’t ramble on making a hypothetical situation where the odds are in your favor.


Who cares about invisibility?

Just before Jak activates the slow down time, Ratchet can deploy a Golden Groovitron to make him dance to his death.

One more thing: The odds aren’t in my favor, they are on Ratchet’s side. And who’s talking about hypothetical situations?




for one you kept saying “if jak did ______ rachet would_____" = hypothetical not including anything that jack could do to counter....

again i’ll say it he can slow down time BEFORE he pulls out his gun. get it?


But how the hell can Jak counter a Groovitron if the effects of it starts immediately? Also tell me how can Jak freeze time before Ratchet deploys a disco ball (which is not deployed by a gun)? Tell me also how can Jak survive if Ratchet abruptly throws at him a Mega Leech Bomb if he only has 16HP?

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Jak wins pretty damn fast. Time stop is Jak’s biggest ally here.


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BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote: Third, the invisibility ability. Now, if you think Jak prefers to pick up an extremely heavy and bulky statue, just to make him slow and to break his back like a twig, he’s not going to last 5 minutes in the fight.


who said invisibility was in this?
i said he can SLOW DOWN TIME seriously pay attention and rebut what i say...don’t ramble on making a hypothetical situation where the odds are in your favor.


Who cares about invisibility?

Just before Jak activates the slow down time, Ratchet can deploy a Golden Groovitron to make him dance to his death.

One more thing: The odds aren’t in my favor, they are on Ratchet’s side. And who’s talking about hypothetical situations?




for one you kept saying “if jak did ______ rachet would_____" = hypothetical not including anything that jack could do to counter....

again i’ll say it he can slow down time BEFORE he pulls out his gun. get it?


But how the hell can Jak counter a Groovitron if the effects of it starts immediately? Also tell me how can Jak freeze time before Ratchet deploys a disco ball (which is not deployed by a gun)? Tell me also how can Jak survive if Ratchet abruptly throws at him a Mega Leech Bomb if he only has 16HP?


because it’s instant....ratchet has to lob/throw or do what ever he does to use his weapons....Jak just thinks it.


but personally i still like Ratchet and Clank Better than Jak and Daxter....

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J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote: Third, the invisibility ability. Now, if you think Jak prefers to pick up an extremely heavy and bulky statue, just to make him slow and to break his back like a twig, he’s not going to last 5 minutes in the fight.


who said invisibility was in this?
i said he can SLOW DOWN TIME seriously pay attention and rebut what i say...don’t ramble on making a hypothetical situation where the odds are in your favor.


Who cares about invisibility?

Just before Jak activates the slow down time, Ratchet can deploy a Golden Groovitron to make him dance to his death.

One more thing: The odds aren’t in my favor, they are on Ratchet’s side. And who’s talking about hypothetical situations?




for one you kept saying “if jak did ______ rachet would_____" = hypothetical not including anything that jack could do to counter....

again i’ll say it he can slow down time BEFORE he pulls out his gun. get it?


But how the hell can Jak counter a Groovitron if the effects of it starts immediately? Also tell me how can Jak freeze time before Ratchet deploys a disco ball (which is not deployed by a gun)? Tell me also how can Jak survive if Ratchet abruptly throws at him a Mega Leech Bomb if he only has 16HP?


because it’s instant....ratchet has to lob/throw or do what ever he does to use his weapons....Jak just thinks it.


but personally i still like Ratchet and Clank Better than Jak and Daxter....


You’re right about when he just has to think to do it, but Jak won’t know anything else than that he’s throwing an “harmless” disco ball (technically, it is harmless). When does a disco ball harm someone?

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BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote: Third, the invisibility ability. Now, if you think Jak prefers to pick up an extremely heavy and bulky statue, just to make him slow and to break his back like a twig, he’s not going to last 5 minutes in the fight.


who said invisibility was in this?
i said he can SLOW DOWN TIME seriously pay attention and rebut what i say...don’t ramble on making a hypothetical situation where the odds are in your favor.


Who cares about invisibility?

Just before Jak activates the slow down time, Ratchet can deploy a Golden Groovitron to make him dance to his death.

One more thing: The odds aren’t in my favor, they are on Ratchet’s side. And who’s talking about hypothetical situations?




for one you kept saying “if jak did ______ rachet would_____" = hypothetical not including anything that jack could do to counter....

again i’ll say it he can slow down time BEFORE he pulls out his gun. get it?


But how the hell can Jak counter a Groovitron if the effects of it starts immediately? Also tell me how can Jak freeze time before Ratchet deploys a disco ball (which is not deployed by a gun)? Tell me also how can Jak survive if Ratchet abruptly throws at him a Mega Leech Bomb if he only has 16HP?


because it’s instant....ratchet has to lob/throw or do what ever he does to use his weapons....Jak just thinks it.


but personally i still like Ratchet and Clank Better than Jak and Daxter....


You’re right about when he just has to think to do it, but Jak won’t know anything else than that he’s throwing an “harmless” disco ball (technically, it is harmless). When does a disco ball harm someone?


in this situation their pitted against each other...right when the battle starts jak slows time then takes out ratchet for a quick win...

A.K.A speed blitz... haha

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BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote: Third, the invisibility ability. Now, if you think Jak prefers to pick up an extremely heavy and bulky statue, just to make him slow and to break his back like a twig, he’s not going to last 5 minutes in the fight.


who said invisibility was in this?
i said he can SLOW DOWN TIME seriously pay attention and rebut what i say...don’t ramble on making a hypothetical situation where the odds are in your favor.


Who cares about invisibility?

Just before Jak activates the slow down time, Ratchet can deploy a Golden Groovitron to make him dance to his death.

One more thing: The odds aren’t in my favor, they are on Ratchet’s side. And who’s talking about hypothetical situations?




for one you kept saying “if jak did ______ rachet would_____" = hypothetical not including anything that jack could do to counter....

again i’ll say it he can slow down time BEFORE he pulls out his gun. get it?


But how the hell can Jak counter a Groovitron if the effects of it starts immediately? Also tell me how can Jak freeze time before Ratchet deploys a disco ball (which is not deployed by a gun)? Tell me also how can Jak survive if Ratchet abruptly throws at him a Mega Leech Bomb if he only has 16HP?


because it’s instant....ratchet has to lob/throw or do what ever he does to use his weapons....Jak just thinks it.


but personally i still like Ratchet and Clank Better than Jak and Daxter....


You’re right about when he just has to think to do it, but Jak won’t know anything else than that he’s throwing an “harmless” disco ball (technically, it is harmless). When does a disco ball harm someone?


Common kinowledge in vs fights dude. That means they know about each other, and also blood lust meaning they do anything to win and full capacity meaning they fight at Full power. Which is why Jak wins.


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Indalecio wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote: Third, the invisibility ability. Now, if you think Jak prefers to pick up an extremely heavy and bulky statue, just to make him slow and to break his back like a twig, he’s not going to last 5 minutes in the fight.


who said invisibility was in this?
i said he can SLOW DOWN TIME seriously pay attention and rebut what i say...don’t ramble on making a hypothetical situation where the odds are in your favor.


Who cares about invisibility?

Just before Jak activates the slow down time, Ratchet can deploy a Golden Groovitron to make him dance to his death.

One more thing: The odds aren’t in my favor, they are on Ratchet’s side. And who’s talking about hypothetical situations?




for one you kept saying “if jak did ______ rachet would_____" = hypothetical not including anything that jack could do to counter....

again i’ll say it he can slow down time BEFORE he pulls out his gun. get it?


But how the hell can Jak counter a Groovitron if the effects of it starts immediately? Also tell me how can Jak freeze time before Ratchet deploys a disco ball (which is not deployed by a gun)? Tell me also how can Jak survive if Ratchet abruptly throws at him a Mega Leech Bomb if he only has 16HP?


because it’s instant....ratchet has to lob/throw or do what ever he does to use his weapons....Jak just thinks it.


but personally i still like Ratchet and Clank Better than Jak and Daxter....


You’re right about when he just has to think to do it, but Jak won’t know anything else than that he’s throwing an “harmless” disco ball (technically, it is harmless). When does a disco ball harm someone?


Common kinowledge in vs fights dude. That means they know about each other, and also blood lust meaning they do anything to win and full capacity meaning they fight at Full power. Which is why Jak wins.


agreed

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J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote:

J peth wrote:

BIG timer 2.0 wrote: Third, the invisibility ability. Now, if you think Jak prefers to pick up an extremely heavy and bulky statue, just to make him slow and to break his back like a twig, he’s not going to last 5 minutes in the fight.


who said invisibility was in this?
i said he can SLOW DOWN TIME seriously pay attention and rebut what i say...don’t ramble on making a hypothetical situation where the odds are in your favor.


Who cares about invisibility?

Just before Jak activates the slow down time, Ratchet can deploy a Golden Groovitron to make him dance to his death.

One more thing: The odds aren’t in my favor, they are on Ratchet’s side. And who’s talking about hypothetical situations?




for one you kept saying “if jak did ______ rachet would_____" = hypothetical not including anything that jack could do to counter....

again i’ll say it he can slow down time BEFORE he pulls out his gun. get it?


But how the hell can Jak counter a Groovitron if the effects of it starts immediately? Also tell me how can Jak freeze time before Ratchet deploys a disco ball (which is not deployed by a gun)? Tell me also how can Jak survive if Ratchet abruptly throws at him a Mega Leech Bomb if he only has 16HP?


because it’s instant....ratchet has to lob/throw or do what ever he does to use his weapons....Jak just thinks it.


but personally i still like Ratchet and Clank Better than Jak and Daxter....


You’re right about when he just has to think to do it, but Jak won’t know anything else than that he’s throwing an “harmless” disco ball (technically, it is harmless). When does a disco ball harm someone?


in this situation their pitted against each other...right when the battle starts jak slows time then takes out ratchet for a quick win...

A.K.A speed blitz... haha


You just don’t get it, don’t you? Even if they’re pitted against each other, the Groovinator is suddenly deployed and the effects begin IMMEDIATELY. Definitely, Jak won’t be ready, even if he knows everything about Ratchet. Therefore, it prevents the time-freezing maneuver (which takes about 11/2 second). Of course they’ll fight Full power. What the hell do you think Ratchet is going to do with his 900 rounds of the RYNO4EVER when Jak is dancing? Rip him a new one. lol

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well jak would freeze time but ratchet would teleport with his warp pad to some where safe until the time freeze is over then he would sneek up behind jak and attack but jak will heal and shield himself but then ratchet will use the r.y.n.o at the same time that jak uses the nuke but if they both survive ratchet will use giant clank and jak will run on the flut-flut then turn invisible and throw a dark bomb and destroy clank but then ratchet will swing and kick jak so their both unstoppable so its a draw.

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jak is awesome!!! (tho ratchet is pretty cool too)

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