Bitches dont know this but...Karin>Amaterasu.Fact. In all seriousness, Amaterasu is not that great. Some notable people has survived it. Raikage dodged it easily and Oz is faster than the raikage.
Hiruma Yoichi wrote:
Skip to 9:55 of this video. Here we see how Sanji not only shows amazing speed switching into Diable Jambe and getting off three kicks. But he also shows us amazing power by deflecting 'Both' of Oz’s fist. Something Itachi could never in a million years do.
this should basically be the winning feat for sanji but i’m sure someone will put up bull crap.
The problem with that is the amount of PIS..if it wasnt for that robin would have been dead..We all know OZ is fast he could have obliterated robin in a second but in that scene nami and ussop gets to say something for a few seconds before OZ even launch an attack..i mean OZ already was going to crush robin but nami and ussop managed to say a few words before OZ launch..
In a bloodlusted fight sanji wouldn’t have enough time to deflect OZ attack and save robin..
I definitely agree that Diable is a strong attack no way that itachi can take that direct hit he will get obliterated..
But it hasn’t been proven that it can break susano..Susano protected itachi faster than sanji can launch diable at that scene..
Raikage pretty much just broke through a wall of amaterasu thats why he got sasuke and lost his arm in the process..
When sasugay got gank thats when a full complete susano protected him..i’m sure all those attack that gank him does more damage than raikage’s simple arm attack or what ever u call it..they are all going for the kill so i doubt they where holding back..gaara’s sand defence manage to save sasugay before raikage lands a K.O hit on sasugay....so i doubt the sand that gaara use to attack sasugay is weak..(but without PIS i say sasugay should have been dead)
It’s all really pretty much how long can sanji last while susano is up as it drains so much chakra..
OniG wrote:
Bitches dont know this but...Karin>Amaterasu.Fact. In all seriousness, Amaterasu is not that great. Some notable people has survived it. Raikage dodged it easily and Oz is faster than the raikage.
Sasugay is different from itachi..Sasugay is a way weaker version of itachi..the only reason sasugay owns itachi is because of PIS (just like how nami owns kalifa) and he lets him to save weakling sasugay from slimy orochimaru curse seal..itachi could have pawn sasugay effortlessly..but he push cry baby sasugay to the limit to release the curse mark..
amaterasu is not meant for instant destruction..it’s a fire that u cant put out..unless put out by the caster or killing the caster..
What a retarded response. How old are you? 6? I’m pretty fucking sure people laughed at this comeback and called you a retard then, too.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Its pathetic you have to come to an internet forum and flame people who disagree with you as a way of “entertaining” yourself.
It’s almost as pathetic as coming to an internet forum soley to cry about e-etiquette and refusing to admit when you’re wrong because of your e-pride while deleting topics you don’t like, just because your e-feelings were e-hurt. E-faggot.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Akatsuki just had trouble dodging a fricking pencil being thrown at him.
Because he’s a good marksman.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Maybe in bizarro world.
No, in this one.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Then why do you continually bring up the fact he was fighting with only one sword?
Because he sucks ass with one sword. He must be even WORSE with his hands to use a technique he sucks ass with.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
When I say shit like maybe Ichigo got a random powerup then I’m making up excuses. I’m just telling the truth. If thats what you wanna believe.
Can you please tell me what this response has to do with anything?
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
I didn’t say that. The manga itself did.
Post the scans, thanks.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Never said Jiraiya wouldn’t beat Kakashi...
No, you merely proclaimed that if Itachi was as powerful as I’m claiming, he shouldn’t be running from Jiraiya. When, in all actuality, Jiraiya would be just as dominant against Jounin as Itachi if he decided to go on a killing spree.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
This is what you said to try and come up with an excuse and claim that Itachi wiped out the clan by himself.
Yeah, that’s what I said, now what does that have to do with anything you’re saying? You’re the one retardedly implying that one must have supreme physical power to be a respected leader. Or something, I don’t know what you’re implying. Are you trying to say Madara did the majority of the physical work in wiping out the Uchiha clan?
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Cause there bullshit.
Correct statements =/= bullshit.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
The scans I posted already in this thread ass....
Where in these scans does it give you ANY indication of time taken?
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
I don’t have one.
I know you don’t, the anime doesn’t contradict the manga, like I’ve stated. You’re just too fucking stupid to ever admit to being wrong, mostly because arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Ichigo doesn’t magically get to wear his mask longer until he goes to rescue Orihime....
That’s what it looks like.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Thus proving my point they weren’t slower, less durable, etc...
So seeing nothing to indicate they have equal physical stats proves your point? You’re fucking stupid as shit.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
BTW this is a video not a scan. Hmm, it appears you’re right in away. But since you like using the anime look how long it took him to point, by then Sanji is already behind him.
What the fuck, he was only having a conversation with him. Again, stop being a fucking retard, thanks.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Coby using Soru is able to dodge Luffys attack, disappear from his vision and appear behind him.
I like how Coby is invisible to Luffy and this somehow helps your argument.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Thats only 8 but so what?
7, Killer Bee isn’t a villain. Being one of the 7 most powerful criminals on the planet is a big fucking deal, moron. He isn’t some random Chuunin/Anbu jobber.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
To bad for you Ifm not lying. Unless you think Oz is weaker than Sasuke?
No, but I know Sasuke would fucking wreck him with his ninjutsu and shit.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Um cause he can?
No he can’t, you goddamn retard. Stop fucking trolling, kid.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Gai and Kakashi are equals
Then why does Gai never get brought up in Hokage talks?
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Also that was way in the beginning before Sanji got stronger.
Prove Sanji got noticeably stronger, thanks.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Okay if thatfs how you wanna play I can say Sanji can take anything Sasuke could.
Sure. Though, Sanji isn’t as powerful as Sasuke and would simply get wrecked by Genjutsu and shit.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Other than the statements that theyfve all not realized it but theyfve gotten stronger?
A .1% increase is getting stronger. Which is what I was fucking trying to tell you earlier but the point went right over your retarded head.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Other then beating stronger enemies up each arc?
Son, you’ve just conceded that all of Luffy’s enemies stay in the same general area for power. Now why am I supposed to believe Sanji’s enemies are any different?
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Other then developing new moves? Yeah...
In all actuality, that new move is probably what they were referring to when they said Sanji got stronger.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
Faggot this faggot that. Grow the fuck up.
Son, I’m probably older than you, and I know for certain I’ve seen more shit and am far more mature than some straight to college faggot.
Yujiro Hanma wrote:
I concede when I’m proving wrong. Bullet dodging isn’t impressive if itfs an incredibly strong person dodging them. If it’s a weakling hell yes it is.
Hiruma Yoichi wrote:
Skip to 9:55 of this video. Here we see how Sanji not only shows amazing speed switching into Diable Jambe and getting off three kicks. But he also shows us amazing power by deflecting 'Both' of Oz’s fist. Something Itachi could never in a million years do.
this should basically be the winning feat for sanji but i’m sure someone will put up bull crap.
The problem with that is the amount of PIS..if it wasnt for that robin would have been dead..We all know OZ is fast he could have obliterated robin in a second but in that scene nami and ussop gets to say something for a few seconds before OZ even launch an attack..i mean OZ already was going to crush robin but nami and ussop managed to say a few words before OZ launch..
In a bloodlusted fight sanji wouldn’t have enough time to deflect OZ attack and save robin..
I definitely agree that Diable is a strong attack no way that itachi can take that direct hit he will get obliterated..
But it hasn’t been proven that it can break susano..Susano protected itachi faster than sanji can launch diable at that scene..
Raikage pretty much just broke through a wall of amaterasu thats why he got sasuke and lost his arm in the process..
When sasugay got gank thats when a full complete susano protected him..i’m sure all those attack that gank him does more damage than raikage’s simple arm attack or what ever u call it..they are all going for the kill so i doubt they where holding back..gaara’s sand defence manage to save sasugay before raikage lands a K.O hit on sasugay....so i doubt the sand that gaara use to attack sasugay is weak..(but without PIS i say sasugay should have been dead)
It’s all really pretty much how long can sanji last while susano is up as it drains so much chakra..
See not this isn’t bull crap. This is a reasonable argument.
Raikage did managed to break part of Susano. If you look closely you can see a rib flying away from Susano. Now Raikage must be strong yes, but sanji has shown his regular kicks surpass Raikage’s attack. I think he could break it. And if he uses Diable Jambe it’s over.
Another thing is i hear people saying that if sanji kicks him while he’s covered is ameratsu he’ll lose his leg. Even if he does(Witch i doubt) he would still win after one kick.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
What a retarded response. How old are you? 6? I’m pretty fucking sure people laughed at this comeback and called you a retard then, too.
Sure......
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
It’s almost as pathetic as coming to an internet forum soley to cry about e-etiquette and refusing to admit when you’re wrong because of your e-pride while deleting topics you don’t like, just because your e-feelings were e-hurt. E-faggot.
If I deleted topics I didn’t like then there would be no Goku vs Superman topics(and yet they are still open). Funny because I’m not crying and my feelings aren’t hurt in the slighest.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Because he’s a good marksman.
Concession accepted. Kisame who is practically Itachi’s equal couldn’t dodge a pencil.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Because he sucks ass with one sword. He must be even WORSE with his hands to use a technique he sucks ass with.
Is that why all of his Ittôryû attacks(which are with one sword) are all his fininshing techniques that he has worked on to improve his skill?
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Can you please tell me what this response has to do with anything?
You claim I make excuses yet you just said maybe Ichigo got a random powerup to try and explain why he in the anime it took 5 minutes for him to do what he did and it was clearly 11 seconds.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Post the scans, thanks.
I already provided you with a description of the technique. Infact why don’t you go look for the scans to prove me wrong.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
No, you merely proclaimed that if Itachi was as powerful as I’m claiming, he shouldn’t be running from Jiraiya. When, in all actuality, Jiraiya would be just as dominant against Jounin as Itachi if he decided to go on a killing spree.
Prove it. It depends largely on the Jonin he fights.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Yeah, that’s what I said, now what does that have to do with anything you’re saying? You’re the one retardedly implying that one must have supreme physical power to be a respected leader. Or something, I don’t know what you’re implying. Are you trying to say Madara did the majority of the physical work in wiping out the Uchiha clan?
You’re the one being retarded and claiminig that Itachi wiped out the Uchihas by himself when it was shown he had Madara. Madara is clearly stronger than Pein so.....
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Where in these scans does it give you ANY indication of time taken?
It doesn’t. Anyway Hiruma already posted a vid showing Sanji not taking nearly as long as you make it seem.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
I know you don’t, the anime doesn’t contradict the manga, like I’ve stated. You’re just too fucking stupid to ever admit to being wrong, mostly because arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall.
The anime drags scenes out(hell not just for one Piece,practically EVERY anime). I can’t admit to being wrong? Oh the irony of that statement.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
That’s what it looks like.
Its funny you say I can’t admit to being wrong...
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
So seeing nothing to indicate they have equal physical stats proves your point? You’re fucking stupid as shit.
Other then the fact that its the description for the jutsu.....
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
What the fuck, he was only having a conversation with him. Again, stop being a fucking retard, thanks.
Sanji and Jyabura were having conversations. You used that to undermine their fight in everyway possible.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
I like how Coby is invisible to Luffy and this somehow helps your argument.
I like how Luffy reacts to his attack and knocks him on his ass(but ofcourse you seem to miss that)
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
7, Killer Bee isn’t a villain. Being one of the 7 most powerful criminals on the planet is a big fucking deal, moron. He isn’t some random Chuunin/Anbu jobber.
Notice I said IF you count Killer Bee. Also funny since I never said he was some random Chuunin Anbu jobber....
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
No, but I know Sasuke would fucking wreck him with his ninjutsu and shit.
This is fucking hilarious
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
No he can’t, you goddamn retard. Stop fucking trolling, kid.
No one’s trolling kid.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Then why does Gai never get brought up in Hokage talks?
IDK ask them. Its frequently noted they are equals however(Gai even claims to be better but we know this is bullshit)
This is just so....dude what do you smoke? Where can I get some? Do you honestly think Sanji would be able to do what he did to Oars at the beginning of the series or survive his punches?
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Sure. Though, Sanji isn’t as powerful as Sasuke and would simply get wrecked by Genjutsu and shit.
LMAO. The Raikage Sasuke fought and couldn’t beat Sanji would have fucked up.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
A .1% increase is getting stronger. Which is what I was fucking trying to tell you earlier but the point went right over your retarded head.
No its just you grasping at whatever you can to make Sanji look weak for this fight. I’ve never heard retarded shit like this before. They got a .1% increase? Yeah cause all their enemies are clearly that close in strength....
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Son, you’ve just conceded that all of Luffy’s enemies stay in the same general area for power. Now why am I supposed to believe Sanji’s enemies are any different?
I never said anything like that at all...
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
In all actuality, that new move is probably what they were referring to when they said Sanji got stronger.
Now you’re really just saying stupid shit...
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
Son, I’m probably older than you, and I know for certain I’ve seen more shit and am far more mature than some straight to college faggot.
Mature people do shit with their lives. Mature people don’t call people faggots at the end of every sentence to show how tough they are. Mature people also don’t get on the internet talking about how they would kick your ass if they met you in real life.
Some random Genin dodges bullets. Everyone in Naruto verse can now. That would really help your point. Keep on at it. It shows how pathetic you really are.
Ravishing Moses Rude wrote:
What the fuck? He was ping ponging from mirror to mirror at speeds Sanji comes nowhere near replicating, faggot.
Not sure about Amaterasu, though. It did work well against the 8-tails.
And Karin lol
Irrelevant. Amaterasu would still fuck Oz up, and badly. It’ll definitely connect. Also, knowing Oz, he’ll just stand there and get hit by the move anyway. He won’t die from pain, but, his body will probably be rendered immobile.
Also, if we use Sanji how he’s consistently portrayed in the anime, when the battle starts he’ll probably just stand there with a cigarette in his mouth looking all cool. By then he’ll already be trapped in Itachi’s illusion. gg Sanji
KatanaX wrote:
OZ would crush him before the fire did any irreparable damage.
Sure, if we use an out of character OZ he’ll do that. Oz was rather slow in dealing with the straw hats. He never out right speed blitz them. Usually it was him letting them hit him and dodging here and there. With Itachi, Oz will probably just stare at him for a bit, waiting for him to do something. By then he’ll already be engulfed by the flames. And Itachi would definitely use the technique after seeing how fucking huge Oz is.
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KatanaX wrote:
Yes but the second oz was hit he would crush him and yes it is in his character to do so then the fire would go out and that would be it.
Lol, if the straw hats could dodge Oz then I’m pretty sure Itachi can. He’d dodge while interrupting Oz’s advances with some ninjutsu. Eventually though the flames of Amaterasu would render Oz’s body immobile. gg Oz.
Chronic The Hedgehog wrote:
Itachi hasn’t shown speed on the level that the straw hats have. Sanji speedblitzed a guy who was dodging Franky’s bullets while dicking around.
No, but he’s wtf pwnd other Ninja’s who could be argued to be as quick as the straw hats. I.e Gai and Kakashi, iirc. Also, Luffy is the only one in the entire crew who’s show any kind of impressive speed. And that’s ONLY in his gear 2nd. Other than that the straw hats really aren’t that fast.
Zoro and Sanji have to not as fast as gear 2 of course but still wayyyyyyyyy above anything I have seen in Naruto or Shippuden. Sooooooo yea maybe you need to touch up on your OP knowledge
KatanaX wrote:
Yea and they didn’t dodge Oz they deflected his attacks which no one in Naruto would be able to do maybe you need to go reread your OP.
Oh, they did plenty of dodging here and there. And they also did plenty of attacking. Oz never “speedblitz” any of the straw hat crew. If Oz was as deadly as you are trying to make him out to be then he would have simply killed all the straw hats on the spot.
Chronic The Hedgehog wrote:
Itachi hasn’t shown speed on the level that the straw hats have. Sanji speedblitzed a guy who was dodging Franky’s bullets while dicking around.
No, but he’s wtf pwnd other Ninja’s who could be argued to be as quick as the straw hats. I.e Gai and Kakashi, iirc. Also, Luffy is the only one in the entire crew who’s show any kind of impressive speed. And that’s ONLY in his gear 2nd. Other than that the straw hats really aren’t that fast.
Wanze dodged Franky’s bullets at close range and Sanji kicked him more times than he (Wanze) could see. Also they all react to and keep pace with soru users.
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