super 17 can fight forever, steal energy, absorb energy, survived a blast from a ssj4 Goku trying to self distruct which is probably enough to destroy a good part of the universe. Kicked Goku into space from earth. Can react faster than instant, and let’s face it, looks damn awesome. Could be beat superman?
I think this is a good battle actually. Well Superman won’t throw anything out for him to absorb. Though Superman COULD potentially win if he flies through him like Goku did. He was reacting to Goku’s IT because he could hear it so this makes it all the more interesting.
Wasn’t it said the sun couldn’t hurt SSJ4 Goku? If so Super 17 is stronger than the sun as he can do more damage to him than the sun.
Ultraman wrote:
super 17 can fight forever, steal energy, absorb energy, survived a blast from a ssj4 Goku trying to self distruct which is probably enough to destroy a good part of the universe. Kicked Goku into space from earth. Can react faster than instant, and let’s face it, looks damn awesome. Could be beat superman?
Oh my God, this is what he said about Surfer
Ultra wrote:
he’s still slower than a teleporter
So how does 17 > Surfer in speed?
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seed wrote:
WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
Thats just it, 17 doesn’t see in to the future, he actually heard Goku moving(INSTANTLY) which shows 17 has good hearing and the fact he knew exactly where Goku was tells you how good 17’s reflexes are.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Goku’s IT is instant and 17 could follow Goku’s movements and couter attack.
About that. You mean this ability?
Ultra Sensitivity - By concentrating his mind, Super 17 can sense the very changes in the air and sound, which allows him to detect even the stealthiest opponents, such as Goku using the Shunkan Ido. This ability can be disrupted by loud sounds such as explosions.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Goku’s IT is instant and 17 could follow Goku’s movements and couter attack.
About that. You mean this ability?
Ultra Sensitivity - By concentrating his mind, Super 17 can sense the very changes in the air and sound, which allows him to detect even the stealthiest opponents, such as Goku using the Shunkan Ido. This ability can be disrupted by loud sounds such as explosions.
Superman won’t be causing loud sounds when he is trying to speedblitz though. Besides if he could detect instant movements, then Superman is going to be like a turtle to detect.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Thats just it, 17 doesn’t see in to the future, he actually heard Goku moving(INSTANTLY) which shows 17 has good hearing and the fact he knew exactly where Goku was tells you how good 17’s reflexes are.
But how is that better than Surfers?
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seed wrote:
WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Goku’s IT is instant and 17 could follow Goku’s movements and couter attack.
About that. You mean this ability?
Ultra Sensitivity - By concentrating his mind, Super 17 can sense the very changes in the air and sound, which allows him to detect even the stealthiest opponents, such as Goku using the Shunkan Ido. This ability can be disrupted by loud sounds such as explosions.
Superman won’t be causing loud sounds when he is trying to speedblitz though. Besides if he could detect instant movements, then Superman is going to be like a turtle to detect.
Although, there is also another factor, 17 absorbing Superman’s energy. But then again, there’s also a limit to what he can take each time that he absorbs, for example, when he absorbed Goku’s 10x Kamehameha. Didn’t he almost overload?
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Thats just it, 17 doesn’t see in to the future, he actually heard Goku moving(INSTANTLY) which shows 17 has good hearing and the fact he knew exactly where Goku was tells you how good 17’s reflexes are.
But how is that better than Surfers?
Going back in time will lose Surfer the battle because he left the battlefield. What I mean is even if Surfer is moving quick enough to be instant speed, 17 could react.
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