Which is the superior technology base, the Empire or the Federation? Who has the better ships, troops, guns, etc.?
Here´s a few ground rules:
1. The technology base is the Federation and the Empire. Not the Borg, not the Rebellion, not the Care Bears.
2. Assume that all technology is interactively functional. In other words, Imperial stuff works against Federation stuff, and vice versa.
3. No super-beings, gods, etc. So no Q, no Force, etc.
4. `Because it looks better` means nothing. You gotta have a reason that MAKES SENSE.
5. Last, and by no means least. Only films and shows count(Clone Wars being an exception because it is a cartoon, and further is not the Empire). Books, comics, cartoons, etc. are not canon and do not count. If a film or episode doesn`t back your claim, then your claim obviously doesn`t hold water.
Legate wrote:
Which is the superior technology base, the Empire or the Federation? Who has the better ships, troops, guns, etc.?
Here´s a few ground rules:
1. The technology base is the Federation and the Empire. Not the Borg, not the Rebellion, not the Care Bears.
2. Assume that all technology is interactively functional. In other words, Imperial stuff works against Federation stuff, and vice versa.
3. No super-beings, gods, etc. So no Q, no Force, etc.
4. `Because it looks better` means nothing. You gotta have a reason that MAKES SENSE.
5. Last, and by no means least. Only films and shows count(Clone Wars being an exception because it is a cartoon, and further is not the Empire). Books, comics, cartoons, etc. are not canon and do not count. If a film or episode doesn`t back your claim, then your claim obviously doesn`t hold water.
Some book,comics,ect are canon for Star Wars.
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Correction: Some books, comic books, etc. WERE canon, i.e. the Thrawn Trilogy.
But when Lucas began writing the `prequels` and changed the background of Star Wars from the bible that had been established for writers to work from, he yanked the stamp of approval.
In a nutshell, the original idea of the Clone Wars time period was that the clones were the opponents the Republic were faced with.
Clones fulfilled the roles that droids perform post-CW. However, there was a flaw in the cloning process that led to mental instability and insanity in most of the clones, most often manifesting as agression.
Hence, the Clone Wars.
This is part of the background information within which all writers had to frame their work. All stories include THIS history in their context. All stories take place assuming THESE events took place. Using my previous example, the Thrawn Trilogy(and followup duology), THAT history was central to the entire storyline.
Again, once Lucas altered that history, all material written with the old `bible` became non-canon.
Mr. Chee may choose to believe that he can somehow integrate those stories into the current reality, but it simply doesn`t work.
THAT`S why rule 5. It avoids all that clutter and nonsense on both sides and sticks to what`s demonstrable straight from the films and series.
Okay so the Empire’s Star Fleet had several Star Destroyers which were superior to the Star Cruisers of the Alliance, if only by a little bit. Plus the Imperial Star Fleet also had Vader’s Super Star Destroyer, and the Emperor’s Second Death Star, if the Second Death Star is fully operational and fully constructed, which it never was, than it would utterly destroy the entire USS Interprise Star Fleet single handidly, but if it were the first Death Star or an incomplete Second Death Star, or the Star Destroyers and the Super Star Destroyer, the USS Interprise might stand a better chance.
Lets say that the USS Interprise is confronting the entire Fleet of Imperial Star Destroyers and Vader’s Super Star Destroyer. The Star Destroyers can travel faster when they make the jump to hyperspace than the USS Interprise can at Warp 9, it’s maximum speed via Warp Drive, they’re both far faster than light. This doesn’t matter, the USS Interprise and the other USS Spacecraft are more manueverable than the Star Destroyers, but the all of the Imperial Star Destroyers put together have more firepower and more Star Fighters, Tie Fighters which are more manueverable than the USS Interprise and the other USS Spacecraft, but the Star Destroyers themselves are out-numbered. But all togther, the Star Destroyer’s durability and superior firepower, plus their superior shields, would allow them an easy victory over the USS.
Knight_Of_Steel wrote:
Okay so the Empire’s Star Fleet had several Star Destroyers which were superior to the Star Cruisers of the Alliance, if only by a little bit. Plus the Imperial Star Fleet also had Vader’s Super Star Destroyer, and the Emperor’s Second Death Star, if the Second Death Star is fully operational and fully constructed, which it never was, than it would utterly destroy the entire USS Interprise Star Fleet single handidly, but if it were the first Death Star or an incomplete Second Death Star, or the Star Destroyers and the Super Star Destroyer, the USS Interprise might stand a better chance.
Lets say that the USS Interprise is confronting the entire Fleet of Imperial Star Destroyers and Vader’s Super Star Destroyer. The Star Destroyers can travel faster when they make the jump to hyperspace than the USS Interprise can at Warp 9, it’s maximum speed via Warp Drive, they’re both far faster than light. This doesn’t matter, the USS Interprise and the other USS Spacecraft are more manueverable than the Star Destroyers, but the all of the Imperial Star Destroyers put together have more firepower and more Star Fighters, Tie Fighters which are more manueverable than the USS Interprise and the other USS Spacecraft, but the Star Destroyers themselves are out-numbered. But all togther, the Star Destroyer’s durability and superior firepower, plus their superior shields, would allow them an easy victory over the USS.
Dude, there are 200,000 Star destroyers, they aren’t outnumbered.
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Knight_Of_Steel wrote:
Okay so the Empire’s Star Fleet had several Star Destroyers which were superior to the Star Cruisers of the Alliance, if only by a little bit. Plus the Imperial Star Fleet also had Vader’s Super Star Destroyer, and the Emperor’s Second Death Star, if the Second Death Star is fully operational and fully constructed, which it never was, than it would utterly destroy the entire USS Interprise Star Fleet single handidly, but if it were the first Death Star or an incomplete Second Death Star, or the Star Destroyers and the Super Star Destroyer, the USS Interprise might stand a better chance.
Lets say that the USS Interprise is confronting the entire Fleet of Imperial Star Destroyers and Vader’s Super Star Destroyer. The Star Destroyers can travel faster when they make the jump to hyperspace than the USS Interprise can at Warp 9, it’s maximum speed via Warp Drive, they’re both far faster than light. This doesn’t matter, the USS Interprise and the other USS Spacecraft are more manueverable than the Star Destroyers, but the all of the Imperial Star Destroyers put together have more firepower and more Star Fighters, Tie Fighters which are more manueverable than the USS Interprise and the other USS Spacecraft, but the Star Destroyers themselves are out-numbered. But all togther, the Star Destroyer’s durability and superior firepower, plus their superior shields, would allow them an easy victory over the USS.
Dude, there are 200,000 Star destroyers, they aren’t outnumbered.
There were a handful of star destroyers, the exact number was never confirmed.
No it wasn’t, unless you have the source, and it’s reliable. 200,000 is out of the Emperor’s budget, that would require more material than it took to construct the Second Death Star even the Galactic City on Coruscant itself.
Dude, there are 200,000 Star destroyers, they aren’t outnumbered.
