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Teachers VS Students(Jiraiya, Tsunade, Orochimaru VS Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura)

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03 Nov 2009 07:44
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Ok this battle is gonna b With Jiraiya(toad sage)Tsunade(charkra released) Orochimaru(full power)....Naruto(toad sage or four tails) Sasuke(with itachi’s power) Sakura(full power)....who will win and explain why...and if u think this is a one sided battle u can bring in support for the other side to bak them up....


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03 Nov 2009 10:30
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This is how I would match them up:

Jiraiya vs Naruto = winner Naruto by virtue of not getting killed by Pain. *cough**cough*

Orochimaru vs Sasuke = winner Sasuke. It already happened, but Orochimaru could possibly get stronger later on.

Sakura vs Tsunade = winner Sakura since Tsunade held her own against Orochimaru and Sakura needed Chiyo’s help against Sasori.


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03 Nov 2009 11:04
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do u mean tsunade would win??

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Ryusuke2074 wrote: do u mean tsunade would win??



Against Sakura, yes.

Against Naruto and Sasuke, no.


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[Quote] #5
27 Dec 2009 06:32
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THIS IS HOW I WOULD MATCH THEM UP
SASKE VS Jiraiya, TSUNATE,AND OROCHIMARU = SASKE WINS BECAUSE HE HAS ALL OF ITACHIS SHARINGAN POWER AND ITACHI COULD BEAT OROCHIMARU, TSUNATE ,AND JIRAIYA JUST BY LOOKING AT THEM (PROVEN) SO SASKE WOULD DO SAME AND HE WILL NOT NEED SAKURA AND NARUTO BELIVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

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28 Dec 2009 06:44
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Orochimaru @ full power and original body slaughters. His chakra, speed, and durability is unnatural. A non-bloodlusted Oro was able to simultaneously beat TWO Sannin as well as kill 2 kages rather easily. Jaraiya has vast reserves of power, incredible skill/determination and perfected Rasengan more than Naruto has. Tsunade’s vast strength, medical ninjutsu and will as Kage is going to be extremely helpful.

Sakura loses easily. Powerscaling puts Naruto and Sasuke at the same level - they can stalemate a kage each. Orochimaru and Jaraiya are far above kage level.

Team Naruto is fucked.


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28 Dec 2009 07:32
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Morpheus wrote: Orochimaru @ full power and original body slaughters. His chakra, speed, and durability is unnatural. A non-bloodlusted Oro was able to simultaneously beat TWO Sannin as well as kill 2 kages rather easily. Jaraiya has vast reserves of power, incredible skill/determination and perfected Rasengan more than Naruto has. Tsunade’s vast strength, medical ninjutsu and will as Kage is going to be extremely helpful.

Sakura loses easily. Powerscaling puts Naruto and Sasuke at the same level - they can stalemate a kage each. Orochimaru and Jaraiya are far above kage level.

Team Naruto is fucked.



Naruto’s Sage mode puts him way above Jiraiya. He perfected the sage toad training as well as his Rasengan. AS for being as strong as sasuke, no. Madara himself said Naruto was probably stronger than Sasuke.

Oro, is pretty badass but lets not forget a weaker sasuke defrated him rather easily him, the sasuke now will crush him.

Your king of right about sakura. But all she has to to is live long enough for them to help. So team Naruto has this pretty much wrapped up.


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28 Dec 2009 07:39
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Kilik Lunge wrote: Naruto’s Sage mode puts him way above Jiraiya. He perfected the sage toad training as well as his Rasengan. AS for being as strong as sasuke, no. Madara himself said Naruto was probably stronger than Sasuke.


Pein stated the only reason that they won was because they caught Jariaya off guard. Jaraiya has experience and skill far beyond Naruto. Madara stated that when Sasuke could perform only Amaterasu, not Susanoo.

Kilik Lunge wrote: Oro, is pretty badass but lets not forget a weaker sasuke defrated him rather easily him, the sasuke now will crush him.


a)Oro never tried to KILL Sasuke or Itachi
b)Oro was so weak that he had a fever and was restricted to his bed
c)Oro couldn’t be killed in taht state despite CS2 Sasuke’s most powerful attacks
d)Sasuke himself mentioned that he only beat Oro because he was weakened
e)Orochimaru killed 2 Kages rather easily yet Raikage fought Sasuke to a stalemate

Kilik Lunge wrote: Your king of right about sakura. But all she has to to is live long enough for them to help. So team Naruto has this pretty much wrapped up.


If she doesn’t get killed by Tsunade, Orochimaru just blitzs her.


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28 Dec 2009 07:55
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Morpheus wrote:

Kilik Lunge wrote: Naruto’s Sage mode puts him way above Jiraiya. He perfected the sage toad training as well as his Rasengan. AS for being as strong as sasuke, no. Madara himself said Naruto was probably stronger than Sasuke.


Pein stated the only reason that they won was because they caught Jariaya off guard. Jaraiya has experience and skill far beyond Naruto. Madara stated that when Sasuke could perform only Amaterasu, not Susanoo.

Kilik Lunge wrote: Oro, is pretty badass but lets not forget a weaker sasuke defrated him rather easily him, the sasuke now will crush him.


a)Oro never tried to KILL Sasuke or Itachi
b)Oro was so weak that he had a fever and was restricted to his bed
c)Oro couldn’t be killed in taht state despite CS2 Sasuke’s most powerful attacks
d)Sasuke himself mentioned that he only beat Oro because he was weakened
e)Orochimaru killed 2 Kages rather easily yet Raikage fought Sasuke to a stalemate

Kilik Lunge wrote: Your king of right about sakura. But all she has to to is live long enough for them to help. So team Naruto has this pretty much wrapped up.


If she doesn’t get killed by Tsunade, Orochimaru just blitzs her.



For one i never said a thing about Pain. Naruto is simply just stronger than Jiraiya based not only of the fact he defeated Pain, but also because he was able to complete the training Jiraiya could not. There no argument for that.

Oro might not have tried to kill Sasuke but we both know he couldn’t if he wanted to. Especially the current Sasuke. There is Susasno or Ameratsu, both witch would easily put him down.

And Oro ain’t blitzing Sakura if he has to deal with Naruto or Saskue who won’t be held up that quickly with their teachers.


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28 Dec 2009 07:59
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e)Orochimaru killed 2 Kages rather easily yet Raikage fought Sasuke to a stalemate



Well for one Gaara’s father didn’t seem that strong. He had no feats telling anyone he was strong. Not to mention Oro had a whole squad their with him so even if he was strong Oro had him in numbers.

Fighting the third easily? He almost had his soul pulled out. He did not killed the third easily. He would have died had it not been for his age and you know it. The third used a suicide move so Oro didn’t even really kill him.


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Kilik Lunge wrote: For one i never said a thing about Pain. Naruto is simply just stronger than Jiraiya based not only of the fact he defeated Pain, but also because he was able to complete the training Jiraiya could not. There no argument for that.


Mastery does not necessarily overcome skill and experience. Paul from GetBackers was known as the “Gale Emperor” in his time and he reverted back to his prime when he had a more powerful body, still got owned as a youth despite a higher mastery of his powers, reverted back to normal and beat his opponent.

Kilik Lunge wrote: Oro might not have tried to kill Sasuke but we both know he couldn’t if he wanted to. Especially the current Sasuke. There is Susasno or Ameratsu, both witch would easily put him down.


That’s a load of shit. Orochimaru killed 2 kages yet Sasuke couldn’t kill even 1...he also needed that heal during the fight with Raikage. Oro is too fast to be hit with Ameratsu, Susanoo is trickier yet he hasn’t been faced with it so we don’t know.

Kilik Lunge wrote: And Oro ain’t blitzing Sakura if he has to deal with Naruto or Saskue who won’t be held up that quickly with their teachers.


Maybe, maybe not.

Kilik Lunge wrote: Well for one Gaara’s father didn’t seem that strong. He had no feats telling anyone he was strong. Not to mention Oro had a whole squad their with him so even if he was strong Oro had him in numbers.


People get made kage based on their strength, morals and charisma. He had to have plenty of all 3. This is also the man who fathered powerful shinobi like Gaara. Squad? Rofl @ Sound 4! The Sound 5 were defeated by KIDS. Kabuto is strong but I highly doubt he interfered in a 1 on 1 match. Not to mention the fact that the Kage’s personal guard includes elite black ops jonin.

Kilik Lunge wrote: Fighting the third easily? He almost had his soul pulled out. He did not killed the third easily. He would have died had it not been for his age and you know it. The third used a suicide move so Oro didn’t even really kill him.


I agree that Orochimaru would’ve died had the 3rd been younger. Also that old man third is the strongest hokage known to Konoha. With that said, it would take the STRONGEST kage so far except maybe Hanzo to use a last ditch, desperation move to kill Oro because he couldn’t do it otherwise. Orochimaru gave Sarutobi fatal wounds with his blade fyi. You also have to remember that Oro didn’t TRULY want to kill his master - hell he was CRYING at one point as well as pissed when 3rd didn’t dodge his Kusanagi blade. He only stopped having regret once 3rd sealed his arms and jutsu.


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I’m going to focus the three points you gave me there.

1. Mastery my not overcome skill and Exp but lets be frank. Not only did he get that form Jiraiya but he also earned that through fights he himself has been in. So, i while i agree he might not be -AS- exp as Jiraiya that with his current exp and skill added with the fact he’s more powerful will give him a win.

2. Oro killing Gaara’s father still doesn’t prove much. And about raising Gaara. that just funny. This is a man who grew fear of his own child and sent others to kill his one child who he was to afraid to kill? Gaara got where he is with no help from his father at all. And as for him being a kage for all we know he could have been the most weak ass Kage of them all. And then we have the sound five.

Yes they were defeated by kids but you say this as if these were just weak asses. Konoha is known for it’s great strength. These kids go around normally beating the shit out of adults. Not to mention most of those kids nearly died. Plus the bone guy was defeated by sickness. Your point really ain’t helping you there.

3. Sasuke nearly losing to the Raikage means nothing. So far he’s proved strong as shit so I would think that would be better for Sasuke’s case. Plus Amarastu and Susano would be able to handle Oro pretty easily.


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Kilik Lunge wrote: 1. Mastery my not overcome skill and Exp but lets be frank. Not only did he get that form Jiraiya but he also earned that through fights he himself has been in. So, i while i agree he might not be -AS- exp as Jiraiya that with his current exp and skill added with the fact he’s more powerful will give him a win.


No since Jaraiya is still MUCH smarter, faster and more durable.

Kilik Lunge wrote: 2. Oro killing Gaara’s father still doesn’t prove much. And about raising Gaara. that just funny. This is a man who grew fear of his own child and sent others to kill his one child who he was to afraid to kill? Gaara got where he is with no help from his father at all. And as for him being a kage for all we know he could have been the most weak ass Kage of them all. And then we have the sound five.


I find it funny that you bring up this guy yet completely ignore Sarutobi. Gaara’s dad might, MIGHT have been a bitch ass kage but Sarutobi was a BEAST. And Oro would make Sarutobi use a desperation move, even in his prime.

Kilik Lunge wrote: Yes they were defeated by kids but you say this as if these were just weak asses. Konoha is known for it’s great strength. These kids go around normally beating the shit out of adults. Not to mention most of those kids nearly died. Plus the bone guy was defeated by sickness. Your point really ain’t helping you there.


It doesn’t matter if they nearly died. The Sound 5 lost to mere CHUNIN in their CS2 states. A kage is bound to be surrounded by black ops - elite jonins. The only strong one was Kimmimaro but his body failed him when he tried to take on Gaara and Lee at the same time.

Kilik Lunge wrote: 3. Sasuke nearly losing to the Raikage means nothing. So far he’s proved strong as shit so I would think that would be better for Sasuke’s case. Plus Amarastu and Susano would be able to handle Oro pretty easily.


Actually I believe Sasuke would’ve won since Raikage sacrificed an ARM. Again Amaratsu couldn’t TOUCH Oro...Susanoo tires Sasuke a lot by the way and you act like it’s weak - it held 2-3 kages at bay simultaneously. Again, every attack has its flaw as Danzo, Madara or Naruto will show when they fight Sasuke.


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24 Jan 2010 21:44
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i think...

tsunade vs sakura: Tsunade cuz she probley has much more charka saved with her sealing jutsu

Naruto Vs Jiriya: mm i think jirya would win olny because he doesnt have to relie on the nine tailed fox

sasuke vs orchimaru: umm why would orochimaru want to transer into saukes body if he was stronger than him? smiley

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KevinKJ wrote: tsunade vs sakura: Tsunade cuz she probley has much more charka saved with her sealing jutsu


Sakura has moer potential though...

KevinKJ wrote: Naruto Vs Jiriya: mm i think jirya would win olny because he doesnt have to relie on the nine tailed fox


I agree. Naruto is still a beast though.

KevinKJ wrote: sasuke vs orchimaru: umm why would orochimaru want to transer into saukes body if he was stronger than him? smiley


a) Oro’s body was failing
b) His original body was the strongest
c) Oro just wanted Sasuke’s sharingan - nothing else


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18 Feb 2010 09:46
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SASKE WOULD TAKE DOWN OROCHIMARU IN A SEC BECAUSE HE DID IT WHEN HE DID NOT HAVE MANGEKYO SHARINGAN AND NOW HE HAS IT AND HE ALSO HE HAS ITACHIS SHARINGAN POWERS AND AMATERASU COULD KILL ORO AND TSUNATE IN 1 MIN BECAUSE WHEN TSUNATE STARTED FIGHTING WHITH ORO SHE NEARLE LOST AND SASKE ACTUALLY DESTROYED ORO AND HE WOULD DO THE SAME TO TSUNATE BUT IF HIS EYE GETS OVER USED HE WOULD NOT BEAT JIRAYA THAT EASILY BUT IT WOULD NOT GET OVER USED BECAUSE IT WILL BE OVER USED IF HE USES FOR MORE THEN 14 MINITS AND IF IT TAKES 1 MIN TO KILL TSUNATE AND ORO HE HAS 13MIN LEFT SO HE WOULD KILL JIRAYA AND I THINK HE WOULD KILL JIRAYA IN 10 MIN OR LESS

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18 Feb 2010 09:58
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SASKE WOULD TAKE DOWN OROCHIMARU IN A SEC BECAUSE HE DID IT WHEN HE DID NOT HAVE MANGEKYO SHARINGAN AND NOW HE HAS IT AND HE ALSO HE HAS ITACHIS SHARINGAN POWERS AND AMATERASU COULD KILL ORO AND TSUNATE IN 1 MIN BECAUSE WHEN TSUNATE STARTED FIGHTING WHITH ORO SHE NEARLE LOST AND SASKE ACTUALLY DESTROYED ORO AND HE WOULD DO THE SAME TO TSUNATE BUT IF HIS EYE GETS OVER USED HE WOULD NOT BEAT JIRAYA THAT EASILY BUT IT WOULD NOT GET OVER USED BECAUSE IT WILL BE OVER USED IF HE USES FOR MORE THEN 14 MINITS AND IF IT TAKES 1 MIN TO KILL TSUNATE AND ORO HE HAS 13MIN LEFT SO HE WOULD KILL JIRAYA AND I THINK HE WOULD KILL JIRAYA IN 10 MIN OR LESS

I AGREE

ACTUALLY I THINK SASKE WOULD TAKE DOWN TSUNATE, JIRAIA,ORO,
AND SAKURA ADDED TOGETHER AT SAME TIME BECAUSE BEFORE HE GOT ITACHI’S POWERS HE WAS STRONGER THEN NARUTO AND SKURA AND CAPITAN SOMETHING PUT ALTOGETHER AND NOW THAT HE GOT ITACHI’S POWER HE WOULD KILL NEARLY EVERYONE EXEPT MADARA AND NARUTO BECAUSE PEOPLE SAY THEY ARE QUTE STRONG BUT MADARA WOULD BEAT SASKE AND NARUTO SEPARATED BUT IF SASKE AND NARUTO WHERE TOGETHER THEY WOULD KILL ENYONE

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