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14 Jan 2009 06:46 pm
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Tippership Commander wrote: it was you who referenced THIS pic, when you said that

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First off ,no i didn’t mean fleetway......

fleetway isn’t godo t ouse, no matter what the circumstance...sonic didn’t do THAT muc hthat he isn’t doing here and there....







...No, i was going by SOnic X.....



Which is part of the early issues, which are just full of gag feats, which are not to be taken seriously.


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Tippership Commander wrote: it was you who referenced THIS pic, when you said that




First off ,no i didn’t mean fleetway......

fleetway isn’t godo t ouse, no matter what the circumstance...sonic didn’t do THAT muc hthat he isn’t doing here and there....







...No, i was going by SOnic X.....


What happened in sonic x?


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DN nli wrote:

Tippership Commander wrote:

DN nli wrote: Sonic isn’t FTL. He’s at best hypersonic. Fleetway doesn’t count, if that’s what you’re going by, and some of the early chapters of Archie sonic were just for gags, till it got serious around the later chapters. And as for the Chaos Emeralds, if they’re allowed, then he might have a change, otherwise, this goes to Flash.



funny,. i can quote in your words abotu SOnic beign faster than light...


and...



Yes, that’s before I found out some things about the early chapters of Sonic, and so on. And he’s at best hypersonic, which is just below, or close to lightspeed. Otherwise, things that are shown in the early chapters are actually true, and Sonic is a giant compared to anything on earth.




hm....

Well, he is Easily HyperSonic...



....his bes support for lightspeed speeds ,is SOnic X ,and ....Archie, i think....the comics liek that pic, work.....but they’re not as impressive...

Now, Chaos COntrol ....yea, that AUTOMATICALLY enables it, because of the whole blank check with space and time thing......





.....


as for the fight?

they start zooming, Flash breaks the sound barrier, SOnic does likewise....flas hdoes his instant acceleration (smallville type-speeds)...Sonic ....does the same( i’ll admit, he has it HARD< because he doesn’t like to do this unless it’s a last resort...)//

.....Flash tries speed stealing, SOnic starts generatign it for him to take...


Now, SOnic can try for a one-shotter with Chaos COntrol, time stop variant..


teleporting MIGHT help....but....


If FLash dives into the Speed Force on purpose.....SOnic either has to push his luck, and power, and force a way into it...or turn SUper, and smash in, the wa he did from mobus to earth, etc..

......

as for tryign to fight with punches and kicks....


Sonic has SOME skills, but....having only fought oneopponent atTHOSE speeds( Shadow, Metal SOnic was back when he was pushing higher-super sonic speeds)...

i don’t know if flash can melee at those speeds well.....


Sonic can spin.....adnten, FLash is in a bit of a jam.....


Oh, i know

SOnic can generate speed, but he ......doesn’t steal it, he only builds it as much as he wants...

so, of Flash does his reverse trick, and SPEEDS sonic up past what he thought he was moving at...he’d be forced to re-adjust to the new speed, whic hwill be HARD on him at anything around light speed, whenther above ro below....

OR, he Uses Chaos COntrol to negate that, and fight back....





Flash can vibrate through enemies.....SOnic has done this like.....how many times? not even a dozen....maybe,.,,

But, ...Flash is more used to it......
at least SOnic 's done it more than SUpes....

doesn’t matter, he norm reserves that move for SUper SOnic, so....if Flash tries going thru him...he could heavily damage him....or SOnic could pull the same, .....

the good thing, is that SOnic has power to spare..(chaos force)..and doesn';t have a barrier from his power, like the FLash does( once he hits certain speeds, he loses...)

bad news....FLash knows how to fihthigh speed opponents...and has the experience factor a bit more....


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Tippership Commander wrote:

DN nli wrote:

Tippership Commander wrote:

DN nli wrote: Sonic isn’t FTL. He’s at best hypersonic. Fleetway doesn’t count, if that’s what you’re going by, and some of the early chapters of Archie sonic were just for gags, till it got serious around the later chapters. And as for the Chaos Emeralds, if they’re allowed, then he might have a change, otherwise, this goes to Flash.



funny,. i can quote in your words abotu SOnic beign faster than light...


and...



Yes, that’s before I found out some things about the early chapters of Sonic, and so on. And he’s at best hypersonic, which is just below, or close to lightspeed. Otherwise, things that are shown in the early chapters are actually true, and Sonic is a giant compared to anything on earth.




hm....

Well, he is Easily HyperSonic...



....his bes support for lightspeed speeds ,is SOnic X ,and ....Archie, i think....the comics liek that pic, work.....but they’re not as impressive...

Now, Chaos COntrol ....yea, that AUTOMATICALLY enables it, because of the whole blank check with space and time thing......





.....


as for the fight?

they start zooming, Flash breaks the sound barrier, SOnic does likewise....flas hdoes his instant acceleration (smallville type-speeds)...Sonic ....does the same( i’ll admit, he has it HARD< because he doesn’t like to do this unless it’s a last resort...)//

.....Flash tries speed stealing, SOnic starts generatign it for him to take...


Now, SOnic can try for a one-shotter with Chaos COntrol, time stop variant..


teleporting MIGHT help....but....


If FLash dives into the Speed Force on purpose.....SOnic either has to push his luck, and power, and force a way into it...or turn SUper, and smash in, the wa he did from mobus to earth, etc..

......

as for tryign to fight with punches and kicks....


Sonic has SOME skills, but....having only fought oneopponent atTHOSE speeds( Shadow, Metal SOnic was back when he was pushing higher-super sonic speeds)...

i don’t know if flash can melee at those speeds well.....


Sonic can spin.....adnten, FLash is in a bit of a jam.....


Oh, i know

SOnic can generate speed, but he ......doesn’t steal it, he only builds it as much as he wants...

so, of Flash does his reverse trick, and SPEEDS sonic up past what he thought he was moving at...he’d be forced to re-adjust to the new speed, whic hwill be HARD on him at anything around light speed, whenther above ro below....

OR, he Uses Chaos COntrol to negate that, and fight back....





Flash can vibrate through enemies.....SOnic has done this like.....how many times? not even a dozen....maybe,.,,

But, ...Flash is more used to it......
at least SOnic 's done it more than SUpes....

doesn’t matter, he norm reserves that move for SUper SOnic, so....if Flash tries going thru him...he could heavily damage him....or SOnic could pull the same, .....

the good thing, is that SOnic has power to spare..(chaos force)..and doesn';t have a barrier from his power, like the FLash does( once he hits certain speeds, he loses...)

bad news....FLash knows how to fihthigh speed opponents...and has the experience factor a bit more....


So who wins?


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Then again, I’m possibly wrong about that. He may at best be Supersonic at best, but then again, you never know. But he is not lightspeed, so no reason to count the early comics as fact, otherwise, Sonic is a fucking giant, and this is what I mean.

Notice how in the middle right panel of the scan that he’s seemingly giant while running around the earth.


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some one new wrote:

Tippership Commander wrote: it was you who referenced THIS pic, when you said that




First off ,no i didn’t mean fleetway......

fleetway isn’t godo t ouse, no matter what the circumstance...sonic didn’t do THAT muc hthat he isn’t doing here and there....







...No, i was going by SOnic X.....


What happened in sonic x?




He demonstrated the skill, partly in hsi first race with Sam SPeed( Chris’s uncle), and FULLY , during their OFFICIAL, 2nd race....


After an episode of racing, they’re approachign the finish line...Sam, remembering how the firs time they 'raced(was more fo a police chase)'
sonic broke the sound barrier, then just.....left him in the dust..

he actuvated a specia lpower generator, which pushed his car past SOnic speed, and kept accelerating....

..Sonic.....went ahead and cut loose...

He hit a speed so fast, for him, time stopped(reminds me of smallville/clockstoppers)..


and, .....Sam didn’t even percieve him..

what happened? He managed to accelerate ahead, Cross the finish line, then slowed down to mock the high-speed cameras, then did some poses...

then went BACK onto the course, and put himself in a spinning position, and made it look like he 'tied' with Sam....

he .....shocked the whole planet, as an audience...

No oen had seen the speeds he had mooved at...

if he hadn’t mocked, and made fun of the high-speed cameras, by lettign them see him.....

they wouldn’t have bee nable to percieve that he’s more than won..

and Sam Speed was....shocked....movign at above supersonic speed, and not even percieving SOnic doing this...




— — — — — —
the impressive part? at that time, i’d never seen sonic do speeds liek that.....well, it was hinted, but never shown in full detail, anywhere else....

the metarex..........eggman’s early fights...

the ONLY thing that was similar, was Super SOnic doing moves like that......


Shadow never tried to attempt that, although i’m sure he could...

..and, i understand why Sonic doesn’t d ostuff liek that.....

Apparently, that was him actually TRYING, to use his speed...from his expression before he did that..


and what’s funny, is he was.....'forced' to race, in a sense..


i WISH he game sonic would do that, but....they have him at light speed...one cant tell if he’s above it,non-super....

Super Sonic.....that’s a whole other story


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Darth Nihilus wrote: Then again, I’m possibly wrong about that. He may at best be Supersonic at best, but then again, you never know. But he is not lightspeed, so no reason to count the early comics as fact, otherwise, Sonic is a fucking giant, and this is what I mean.

Notice how in the middle right panel of the scan that he’s seemingly giant while running around the earth.


apparently he jas some sort of lightspeed feat in sonic x


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Darth Nihilus wrote: Then again, I’m possibly wrong about that. He may at best be Supersonic at best, but then again, you never know. But he is not lightspeed, so no reason to count the early comics as fact, otherwise, Sonic is a fucking giant, and this is what I mean.

Notice how in the middle right panel of the scan that he’s seemingly giant while running around the earth.


apparently he jas some sort of lightspeed feat in sonic x



It doesn’t really matter until Sonic X is the Sonic that we’re actually using in this thread to date. Other than that, Flash is already above lightspeed. straight


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Darth Nihilus wrote: Then again, I’m possibly wrong about that. He may at best be Supersonic at best, but then again, you never know. But he is not lightspeed, so no reason to count the early comics as fact, otherwise, Sonic is a fucking giant, and this is what I mean.

Notice how in the middle right panel of the scan that he’s seemingly giant while running around the earth.





...well, i didn’t mention his billionth-ring field.....

grin

but, that’s now a bit obsolete by CHaos Powers and such....but it’d matter..

as for that...i’d never seen that...

another indicator which would have him ....at ridiculous speeds.....

of course the yhad to draw him somehow...


he’s a giant in speed...but...

in size, .....not base form... can he do that....

BTW; i’m looking through the SOnic respect thread, and ......

how did you find all of these? these aren’t easy to come by...

Anyway...do you know of Flash’s fighting moveset at speeds like that?


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Darth Nihilus wrote:

some one new wrote:

Darth Nihilus wrote: Then again, I’m possibly wrong about that. He may at best be Supersonic at best, but then again, you never know. But he is not lightspeed, so no reason to count the early comics as fact, otherwise, Sonic is a fucking giant, and this is what I mean.

Notice how in the middle right panel of the scan that he’s seemingly giant while running around the earth.


apparently he jas some sort of lightspeed feat in sonic x



It doesn’t really matter until Sonic X is the Sonic that we’re actually using in this thread to date. Other than that, Flash is already above lightspeed. straight


So speed force>Chaosforce?


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hang on....archie, base comic, and X have him above light speed...

But flash.....he can'
t go above light speed...

well, the CURRENT flash ...if he breaks light speed, the speed force swallows him..then it turns into a rescue mission for sonic...
(which, we CAN do, if we must)

Barry...straining every muscle in his body , hit 10X light speed, before the speed force swallowed him,....



so, FLash’s limit is either light speed, or 10X light speed...


funny, he can time travel tho, at speeds under that..

well, Super Sonic can too...base Sonic.....he’s never doen it without using CHaos powers...

But, Flash has a limit....

current flash= SOnic’s DESIGNATED light speed moves....

Barry........at up to 10X speeds....


look ,SOnic ...doesnt' like doing those above light speeds...

and, Barry had to strain every muscle in his body...


Seriously, this is the point where sonic starts using his powers....speed break...time break..time stop.....

and CHaos Powers, whic hmake things IMMEDIATLY simpler for him.....

he won’t keep pushing himself ...and i doub’t Flash will either


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Tippership Commander wrote: ...well, i didn’t mention his billionth-ring field.....

grin

but, that’s now a bit obsolete by CHaos Powers and such....but it’d matter..

as for that...i’d never seen that...

another indicator which whttp://lounge.moviecodec.com/scripts/posting.php?f=20&t=47058&r=2212657ould have him ....at ridiculous speeds.....

of course the yhad to draw him somehow...


he’s a giant in speed...but...

in size, .....not base form... can he do that....

BTW; i’m looking through the SOnic respect thread, and ......

how did you find all of these? these aren’t easy to come by...

Anyway...do you know of Flash’s fighting moveset at speeds like that?



This is what I’m talking about.

Red Exodus wrote: The reason why it’s being dismissed is easy. He is physically touching
his shadow and claiming that it requires faster than light speed to do so.

You can just as easily touch your own shadow. Does that make you faster
than light? The answer is no, it doesn’t. What a lot of people seem
to ignore is the utter stupidity of him being able to DAMAGE his own
shadow.

Furthermore, any INTELLIGENT AC Sonic reader can tell you that the early
issues of the series before issue #19 were strictly cartoony and childish.
Akin to a Disney Adventures comic book.

As it is, only select few characters or instances are brought up in the current
serious series. Most other stuff is either non-canon, or written off as comedic,
and therefore has no real relevance (much less credibility) to the current storyline.


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some one new wrote:

Darth Nihilus wrote:

some one new wrote:

Darth Nihilus wrote: Then again, I’m possibly wrong about that. He may at best be Supersonic at best, but then again, you never know. But he is not lightspeed, so no reason to count the early comics as fact, otherwise, Sonic is a fucking giant, and this is what I mean.

Notice how in the middle right panel of the scan that he’s seemingly giant while running around the earth.


apparently he jas some sort of lightspeed feat in sonic x



It doesn’t really matter until Sonic X is the Sonic that we’re actually using in this thread to date. Other than that, Flash is already above lightspeed. straight


So speed force>Chaosforce?




I don’t see how..

the Speed FOrce is .....infinite, in terms of how many times the flas hcan fraw from it...same for chaos force..

lets start with the speed force...




SOurce of MOST speeders in All of DC......with exceptions like Superman(who does things his wa)....and ppl like....dr ZOom?


......the speed force....is the speed force, it’s ....ridiculous

if a flas hdies, their spirit resides in it....

can time travel with it....

i’m not too familiar with the cosmic treadmill



the BAD news....it LIMITS a speeder’s speed.......

it’ll suck you up , if you push it too much..

also, you can use IMP(infinite mass punches), but....from what i gathered ,it only works on others connected with the speed force..

ill do chaos forc in next post


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Darth Nihilus wrote:

Tippership Commander wrote: ...well, i didn’t mention his billionth-ring field.....

grin

but, that’s now a bit obsolete by CHaos Powers and such....but it’d matter..

as for that...i’d never seen that...

another indicator which whttp://lounge.moviecodec.com/scripts/posting.php?f=20&t=47058&r=2212657ould have him ....at ridiculous speeds.....

of course the yhad to draw him somehow...


he’s a giant in speed...but...

in size, .....not base form... can he do that....

BTW; i’m looking through the SOnic respect thread, and ......

how did you find all of these? these aren’t easy to come by...

Anyway...do you know of Flash’s fighting moveset at speeds like that?



This is what I’m talking about.

Red Exodus wrote: The reason why it’s being dismissed is easy. He is physically touching
his shadow and claiming that it requires faster than light speed to do so.

You can just as easily touch your own shadow. Does that make you faster
than light? The answer is no, it doesn’t. What a lot of people seem
to ignore is the utter stupidity of him being able to DAMAGE his own
shadow.

Furthermore, any INTELLIGENT AC Sonic reader can tell you that the early
issues of the series before issue #19 were strictly cartoony and childish.
Akin to a Disney Adventures comic book.

As it is, only select few characters or instances are brought up in the current
serious series. Most other stuff is either non-canon, or written off as comedic,
and therefore has no real relevance (much less credibility) to the current storyline.




.....it’s NOT non-canon...i can assure him that/..


but, it ....

he’s not wrong....Archie....had a TON of comedic this’s and thats..

his feats were never 'eraser'..

but that doesn’t matter.....those early issues DIDN"t detail his highest feats..

the fights with mammoth mogul, and Enerjak, who were ...omnipotents.....


thatwas a serious storyline , and....it STICKS..

also, thats how it was revealed that these characters were destined t obecome...... like gods....

hence, CHaos Knux, Titan tails...

Super SOnic nevr chose to tap into that power pool yet..

which is why archie sucks..they’re keeping us waiting for his TRUE FORM(hypersonic, is strictly game...it WORKS. , but....is lacking on the feats, like SS4 GOgeta)..

Solar sonic, etc....yea, it’s stronger.....but....he only did what was necessary

so, Super Sonic can become ....more powerful, by tapping into the chaos force...

and, it’s offically part of the main storyline'

its sad for me to say this, but...,.that’s actually oen of the few godo storylines of archie.....at leas they don’t abuse his rea lpower.....



but, he’s hitting something there...


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Yeah, he and another member who collects Sonic books said this some time ago, and I thought that he was actually FTL till I had seen these quotes which did stick. You can usually tell in comics and manga when something isn’t needed to be taken seriously. Other than that, till Chaos Force is allowed, or even the rings, it’s just Sonic as said by TC. sad


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SOrry, my typing is sufferign BADLY..

but, im typing REALLY fast...

this isnt the only thing im typing, anyway...




THE CHAOS FORCE..

what you need to know....It’s ....source of all power, infinite....


when those with a connection(ppl like the GUARDIANS<echidnas b4 knux, [you want to talk ridiculous , yet canon OMNIPOTENTS; these are the guys you go to, not titan tails, the 'new” one]>wink such as Sonic, knux, etc......are 'defeated' (happened to Super Knuckles), they enter the chaos force..

this si similar to the flashes entering the speed force ,in that they dont have a body, BUT

1. they do become omnipotent.
2. they can return to their previous forms if they choose to do so, whic his what happened for knux...

anyway, they can ALSO asborb the Chaos Force into them.....whic his why Knu was a 'living' chaos emerald..


titan tails......he did the asborbing thing, and.....TECHNICALLY was the ...'strongest' good guy..yes, an omnpotent...


SO, it’s insurance, ONE of the three sonic has..

second, it allows Chaos COntrol..

i Do NOT want to explain Chaos Control..

call it this: blank check of space and time control...

it’s been used, by ppl like Shadow, to perma-lock down ime...

it’s bee nused to create artifacts out of nothing..

it’s...punched through dimensions like NOTHING.....(makes super sonic and “hyper” knuckles’s dimension collapsing punch look bad..) >sad
it’s NOT the source of SPEED....

.....the chaos emeralds are connected...

so is the master emerald.....

er....

what you dont need to know:

Sonic doesn’t prefer doing it, he 's WAY moe a fan of his own speed powers ,unless the going gets truly tough....

He’s a BIT uneas ywith Chaso Control, it seems...

even more than shadow, who does fear it’s power...

— — — —
misc:

Super Forms are ...counted as tapping into the Chaos Energy,...

Super FOrm ppl don seem to have restrictions, or hold back, ......

almost no inhibitions(strictly archie’s ones) ( YES, i know this sounds like SSJ syndrome.....)

...ugh


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Darth Nihilus wrote: Yeah, he and another member who collects Sonic books said this some time ago, and I thought that he was actually FTL till I had seen these quotes which did stick. You can usually tell in comics and manga when something isn’t needed to be taken seriously. Other than that, till Chaos Force is allowed, or even the rings, it’s just Sonic as said by TC. sad


Well, is he full power?

if so, his BIGGEST ..advantage is the Chaos Force ,and his.....3-way(3 reason) invnerabilitity/immoratilitity..

his bigest weakness?
this is SONIC, not Supes....

and, ....he only fights FTL in Chaos COntrol, or ...super forms...

never fought a FTL enemy , truly in base form....


Look, yes, i support sonic

ill admit it..

but, Flash....

his character has him doing tons of speed fights/feats....

.....besides, 75% of the time, Sonic sticks to around the sound barrier...
Flash.....does anything from that, to seemingly hypersonic speeds, which sonic doesnt touch, NORMALLY, ..

and ,neither likes doing the super-light speed stuff...

beyond that....flash is limited, and SOnic....hates it..



so, as far as a fight...flash may VERY well, knock him around...

AND, flash’s one-hit-kills are neutralized....but while SOnic’s arent....

Flash is immortal, thru the speed force ,anyway, REMEMBER?
so...unless Sonci does the omni route, then ....chases him , and has the chaos force rape the speed force....SOnic’s not beating flash either..


so tell me, DN, how does either of these guys win? by knockout?


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Darth Nihilus wrote: Yeah, he and another member who collects Sonic books said this some time ago, and I thought that he was actually FTL till I had seen these quotes which did stick. You can usually tell in comics and manga when something isn’t needed to be taken seriously. Other than that, till Chaos Force is allowed, or even the rings, it’s just Sonic as said by TC. sad


Well, is he full power?

if so, his BIGGEST ..advantage is the Chaos Force ,and his.....3-way(3 reason) invnerabilitity/immoratilitity..

his bigest weakness?
this is SONIC, not Supes....

and, ....he only fights FTL in Chaos COntrol, or ...super forms...

never fought a FTL enemy , truly in base form....


Look, yes, i support sonic

ill admit it..

but, Flash....

his character has him doing tons of speed fights/feats....

.....besides, 75% of the time, Sonic sticks to around the sound barrier...
Flash.....does anything from that, to seemingly hypersonic speeds, which sonic doesnt touch, NORMALLY, ..

and ,neither likes doing the super-light speed stuff...

beyond that....flash is limited, and SOnic....hates it..



so, as far as a fight...flash may VERY well, knock him around...

AND, flash’s one-hit-kills are neutralized....but while SOnic’s arent....

Flash is immortal, thru the speed force ,anyway, REMEMBER?
so...unless Sonci does the omni route, then ....chases him , and has the chaos force rape the speed force....SOnic’s not beating flash either..


so tell me, DN, how does either of these guys win? by knockout?


I thought it was only a race.

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full power= it’s a tie, with both having this and that for invincibilitity...unless SOnic goes omni(whic hisnt allowed), and has Chaos Force....destroy SPeed Force, which kills flash’s immortality..

no chaos force....but chaos control= SOnic can pursue flash wherever he goes...but, he couldn’t go omni, this time

no speed force or chaos control=
what??

er....

then Flash has no power ,really...
sonic’s faster, now...

super sonic vs Barry...

barry’s got a speed limit, Super SOnic...is too much

full power, take away the Chaos force’s power to rape dimensions= TRUE DRAW - they’re both immortal in certain ways..and tis time, SOnic CAN’t go to finish him off...

experience=Flash has the edge

TOp feat..

COmic=SOnic fighting off omnipotents
Game=Sonic making solaris his b****, and SOlaris...is the highest abstract ever

Flash= please insert

technique=Sonic’s are ...varied...Flash’s are...classic, and he KEEPS them..

vibrating thru walls=Flash actually does it better
immortality:
Flash
1. SPeed FOrce, going into it by death, or running too fast

SOnic
1. Billionth ring-aura
2. CHaos Force entry upon defeat as a super(which isnt happening)
3. His spirit connection to the wind, shown in game SOnic 06
winner=Sonic has 3 types of insurance

best overpowered force on your team=

Flash= 1. speed force

Sonic= 1. Chaos Force

Best SSj look alike0 transformations
flash=none
Sonic= ....he’s got more than SUper SOnic, but ANYTHING above it is unncessary since Super SOnic has no limits anymore sad

buddies= ....SOnic has more powerhouses

flash =the JLA, and ALL the flashes
SOnic= .....comon...from babylon rogues, to the EGGMAN empire..to the epic guardians.....

Abilitity to take on omnipotents=

Sonic as a super, hasn’t done the omni thing yet,...only his best friends..
flash can’t fight omnipotents, no matter WHAT he’s done....speed force spirits weren’t omni

Sonic...

award for overpoweredness=Sonic


Original top speeds, before the......forces....hit the fan=

SOnic’s original was 800MPH
Sound is 764 at sea level, 660 in altitude

light is 670 million mph

FLash’s original speed- idk, cant find it...




Current top Speed=
using their NORMAL running methods....

1 SOnic=above light, unknown how far

2 Super SOnic= .........yea, you think i’ll answer this?

3 Chaos control= SOnic gets the win, whi is this up here?

Flash-


=light speed(670 million mph, 3.0*10^8)
TOday, the SPeed Force nabs ya if you touch, OR approach, light speed.....previous flash pushed it to 10X speed, but.....wally or Bart will NOT push their luck(or the speed force)

Nihilus, what is this? KO, or killing the other guy, or vaporizing, what????






— -pending NIHIL


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1indainfinite wrote:
I know the Flash will win but I love seeing people trying to prove that Sonic could beat the Flash.

RACE



...i like the drawing

now, you want proof?


er....i’ll pass...

wink


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