ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Actually Goku can absorb energy from the sun. So he could potentially recharge. Proof is with Spirit Bomb, I believe King Kaiosama says something in the effect of that.
he sued bio energy from nature t ofuel the spirit bomb, no one has ever taken energy from nature to refuel themselves though.
I wouldn’t see why Goku couldn’t do that....
he’s never done that. CIS.
the spirit bomb is able to draw energy from nature, goku has nso such power and has never stated to have such a power. why would we assume he can when he’s never stated that he can, he’s never tried it, no one in the series has done this I dont believe.
Goku’s been known to resort to what can arguably be called “CIS” when he’s losing a fight. Like biting for example.
You mean only in the battle with Kid Buu.
Nope, he bit frieza too.
Ah, forgot about that time. Other than that, is it really in his character? If so, then he would have did it more than just twice.
Its not in his character, but he did it our of desperation. My point is Goku will resort to a lot of unorthodox methods if he is losing.
That’s just it though. He wasn’t losing at the time.
Goku had no shot of beating Kid Buu, none, because of SSJ3’s high energy requirements.
If, however, he went SSJ3 right off the bat, he might have been able to pull his maximum efficiency at SSJ3 off, and have blown Kid Buu to eradication.
Let’s say Goku does this with Superman, except with a more effective move, at least more effective with Superman.
If Goku converged his epitome of Chi with his hardest punch right on Superman’s head, Superman would eat his face!
Depending on the Superman, this would result in either a knock out (Pre-Crisis), permanent disfigurement (All-Star) or skeletal collapse and death (Post-Crisis).
Goku would be completely out of energy, and, yet again depending on the Superman, his entire arm would be dislocated, mangled or worse, and his knuckles would have been distorted, nothing Goku can’t recover from after the fight, Superman however, wouldn’t be so lucky.
Knight_Of_Steel wrote:
Goku had no shot of beating Kid Buu, none, because of SSJ3’s high energy requirements.
If, however, he went SSJ3 right off the bat, he might have been able to pull his maximum efficiency at SSJ3 off, and have blown Kid Buu to eradication.
Let’s say Goku does this with Superman, except with a more effective move, at least more effective with Superman.
If Goku converged his epitome of Chi with his hardest punch right on Superman’s head, Superman would eat his face!
Depending on the Superman, this would result in either a knock out (Pre-Crisis), permanent disfigurement (All-Star) or skeletal collapse and death (Post-Crisis).
Goku would be completely out of energy, and, yet again depending on the Superman, his entire arm would be dislocated, mangled or worse, and his knuckles would have been distorted, nothing Goku can’t recover from after the fight, Superman however, wouldn’t be so lucky.
He actually did have a shot at beating Kid Buu. If he were to be at full power when fighting Majin Buu, he would have had a better chance at defeating him. The only reason that he was losing it because being in SSJ3 for so long was draining him of energy.
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Knight_Of_Steel wrote:
Goku had no shot of beating Kid Buu, none, because of SSJ3’s high energy requirements.
If, however, he went SSJ3 right off the bat, he might have been able to pull his maximum efficiency at SSJ3 off, and have blown Kid Buu to eradication.
Let’s say Goku does this with Superman, except with a more effective move, at least more effective with Superman.
If Goku converged his epitome of Chi with his hardest punch right on Superman’s head, Superman would eat his face!
Depending on the Superman, this would result in either a knock out (Pre-Crisis), permanent disfigurement (All-Star) or skeletal collapse and death (Post-Crisis).
Goku would be completely out of energy, and, yet again depending on the Superman, his entire arm would be dislocated, mangled or worse, and his knuckles would have been distorted, nothing Goku can’t recover from after the fight, Superman however, wouldn’t be so lucky.
He actually did have a shot at beating Kid Buu. If he were to be at full power when fighting Majin Buu, he would have had a better chance at defeating him. The only reason that he was losing it because being in SSJ3 for so long was draining him of energy.
No....lol Goku had NO shot at beating Kid Buu....hell he had to have help from the dragonballs and get ALL of his energy back to just to defeat Kid Buu.
Kid Buu>>>>>>SSJ3Goku....sorry
I would say Mystic Gohan, but that dumbass got absorbed by Buu....so he’d lose to.
Now SSJ4 Goku? Of course....
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Knight_Of_Steel wrote:
Goku had no shot of beating Kid Buu, none, because of SSJ3’s high energy requirements.
If, however, he went SSJ3 right off the bat, he might have been able to pull his maximum efficiency at SSJ3 off, and have blown Kid Buu to eradication.
Let’s say Goku does this with Superman, except with a more effective move, at least more effective with Superman.
If Goku converged his epitome of Chi with his hardest punch right on Superman’s head, Superman would eat his face!
Depending on the Superman, this would result in either a knock out (Pre-Crisis), permanent disfigurement (All-Star) or skeletal collapse and death (Post-Crisis).
Goku would be completely out of energy, and, yet again depending on the Superman, his entire arm would be dislocated, mangled or worse, and his knuckles would have been distorted, nothing Goku can’t recover from after the fight, Superman however, wouldn’t be so lucky.
He actually did have a shot at beating Kid Buu. If he were to be at full power when fighting Majin Buu, he would have had a better chance at defeating him. The only reason that he was losing it because being in SSJ3 for so long was draining him of energy.
No....lol Goku had NO shot at beating Kid Buu....hell he had to have help from the dragonballs and get ALL of his energy back to just to defeat Kid Buu.
Kid Buu>>>>>>SSJ3Goku....sorry
I would say Mystic Gohan, but that dumbass got absorbed by Buu....so he’d lose to.
Now SSJ4 Goku? Of course....
Yes, he did have a chance. You do watch/read Dragon Ball Z, don’t you?
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Knight_Of_Steel wrote:
Goku had no shot of beating Kid Buu, none, because of SSJ3’s high energy requirements.
If, however, he went SSJ3 right off the bat, he might have been able to pull his maximum efficiency at SSJ3 off, and have blown Kid Buu to eradication.
Let’s say Goku does this with Superman, except with a more effective move, at least more effective with Superman.
If Goku converged his epitome of Chi with his hardest punch right on Superman’s head, Superman would eat his face!
Depending on the Superman, this would result in either a knock out (Pre-Crisis), permanent disfigurement (All-Star) or skeletal collapse and death (Post-Crisis).
Goku would be completely out of energy, and, yet again depending on the Superman, his entire arm would be dislocated, mangled or worse, and his knuckles would have been distorted, nothing Goku can’t recover from after the fight, Superman however, wouldn’t be so lucky.
He actually did have a shot at beating Kid Buu. If he were to be at full power when fighting Majin Buu, he would have had a better chance at defeating him. The only reason that he was losing it because being in SSJ3 for so long was draining him of energy.
No....lol Goku had NO shot at beating Kid Buu....hell he had to have help from the dragonballs and get ALL of his energy back to just to defeat Kid Buu.
Kid Buu>>>>>>SSJ3Goku....sorry
I would say Mystic Gohan, but that dumbass got absorbed by Buu....so he’d lose to.
Now SSJ4 Goku? Of course....
Yes, he did have a chance. You do watch/read Dragon Ball Z, don’t you?
More than anything else.
And No, he didn’t!
He drained ALL his energy, and then was “granted” ALL his energy back from the dragonballs which enabled him to defeat Kid Buu.
Basically it took 2 SSJ3 Gokus to beat Kid Buu.
Kid Buus regeneration is just too AMAZING!
That is why he is the strongest UNFUSED character in DBZ.
And back on topic:
SSJ3 Goku beats Post Crisis Superman.
And Kid Buu absorbs Post Crisis Superman.
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Knight_Of_Steel wrote:
Goku had no shot of beating Kid Buu, none, because of SSJ3’s high energy requirements.
If, however, he went SSJ3 right off the bat, he might have been able to pull his maximum efficiency at SSJ3 off, and have blown Kid Buu to eradication.
Let’s say Goku does this with Superman, except with a more effective move, at least more effective with Superman.
If Goku converged his epitome of Chi with his hardest punch right on Superman’s head, Superman would eat his face!
Depending on the Superman, this would result in either a knock out (Pre-Crisis), permanent disfigurement (All-Star) or skeletal collapse and death (Post-Crisis).
Goku would be completely out of energy, and, yet again depending on the Superman, his entire arm would be dislocated, mangled or worse, and his knuckles would have been distorted, nothing Goku can’t recover from after the fight, Superman however, wouldn’t be so lucky.
He actually did have a shot at beating Kid Buu. If he were to be at full power when fighting Majin Buu, he would have had a better chance at defeating him. The only reason that he was losing it because being in SSJ3 for so long was draining him of energy.
No....lol Goku had NO shot at beating Kid Buu....hell he had to have help from the dragonballs and get ALL of his energy back to just to defeat Kid Buu.
Kid Buu>>>>>>SSJ3Goku....sorry
I would say Mystic Gohan, but that dumbass got absorbed by Buu....so he’d lose to.
Now SSJ4 Goku? Of course....
Yes, he did have a chance. You do watch/read Dragon Ball Z, don’t you?
More than anything else.
And No, he didn’t!
He drained ALL his energy, and then was “granted” ALL his energy back from the dragonballs which enabled him to defeat Kid Buu.
Basically it took 2 SSJ3 Gokus to beat Kid Buu.
Kid Buus regeneration is just too AMAZING!
That is why he is the strongest UNFUSED character in DBZ.
And back on topic:
SSJ3 Goku beats Post Crisis Superman.
And Kid Buu absorbs Post Crisis Superman.
Yes, he did. You ignoring the fact that he did shows that you’re being in denial, or just ignorant to the fact that he did have a chance, but I digress. If he were at Full Power SSJ3, as stated by Vegeta, he would have won. If you go by the canon version.
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Knight_Of_Steel wrote:
Goku had no shot of beating Kid Buu, none, because of SSJ3’s high energy requirements.
If, however, he went SSJ3 right off the bat, he might have been able to pull his maximum efficiency at SSJ3 off, and have blown Kid Buu to eradication.
Let’s say Goku does this with Superman, except with a more effective move, at least more effective with Superman.
If Goku converged his epitome of Chi with his hardest punch right on Superman’s head, Superman would eat his face!
Depending on the Superman, this would result in either a knock out (Pre-Crisis), permanent disfigurement (All-Star) or skeletal collapse and death (Post-Crisis).
Goku would be completely out of energy, and, yet again depending on the Superman, his entire arm would be dislocated, mangled or worse, and his knuckles would have been distorted, nothing Goku can’t recover from after the fight, Superman however, wouldn’t be so lucky.
He actually did have a shot at beating Kid Buu. If he were to be at full power when fighting Majin Buu, he would have had a better chance at defeating him. The only reason that he was losing it because being in SSJ3 for so long was draining him of energy.
No....lol Goku had NO shot at beating Kid Buu....hell he had to have help from the dragonballs and get ALL of his energy back to just to defeat Kid Buu.
Kid Buu>>>>>>SSJ3Goku....sorry
I would say Mystic Gohan, but that dumbass got absorbed by Buu....so he’d lose to.
Now SSJ4 Goku? Of course....
Yes, he did have a chance. You do watch/read Dragon Ball Z, don’t you?
More than anything else.
And No, he didn’t!
He drained ALL his energy, and then was “granted” ALL his energy back from the dragonballs which enabled him to defeat Kid Buu.
Basically it took 2 SSJ3 Gokus to beat Kid Buu.
Kid Buus regeneration is just too AMAZING!
That is why he is the strongest UNFUSED character in DBZ.
And back on topic:
SSJ3 Goku beats Post Crisis Superman.
And Kid Buu absorbs Post Crisis Superman.
Nope Akira Toriyama stated himself Gohan was the strongest. You’re opinion<<<<<<<<<<<xinfinity Akira Toriyama’s word on Dragonball.
Knight_Of_Steel wrote:
Goku had no shot of beating Kid Buu, none, because of SSJ3’s high energy requirements.
If, however, he went SSJ3 right off the bat, he might have been able to pull his maximum efficiency at SSJ3 off, and have blown Kid Buu to eradication.
Let’s say Goku does this with Superman, except with a more effective move, at least more effective with Superman.
If Goku converged his epitome of Chi with his hardest punch right on Superman’s head, Superman would eat his face!
Depending on the Superman, this would result in either a knock out (Pre-Crisis), permanent disfigurement (All-Star) or skeletal collapse and death (Post-Crisis).
Goku would be completely out of energy, and, yet again depending on the Superman, his entire arm would be dislocated, mangled or worse, and his knuckles would have been distorted, nothing Goku can’t recover from after the fight, Superman however, wouldn’t be so lucky.
He actually did have a shot at beating Kid Buu. If he were to be at full power when fighting Majin Buu, he would have had a better chance at defeating him. The only reason that he was losing it because being in SSJ3 for so long was draining him of energy.
No....lol Goku had NO shot at beating Kid Buu....hell he had to have help from the dragonballs and get ALL of his energy back to just to defeat Kid Buu.
Kid Buu>>>>>>SSJ3Goku....sorry
I would say Mystic Gohan, but that dumbass got absorbed by Buu....so he’d lose to.
Now SSJ4 Goku? Of course....
Yes, he did have a chance. You do watch/read Dragon Ball Z, don’t you?
More than anything else.
And No, he didn’t!
He drained ALL his energy, and then was “granted” ALL his energy back from the dragonballs which enabled him to defeat Kid Buu.
Basically it took 2 SSJ3 Gokus to beat Kid Buu.
Kid Buus regeneration is just too AMAZING!
That is why he is the strongest UNFUSED character in DBZ.
And back on topic:
SSJ3 Goku beats Post Crisis Superman.
And Kid Buu absorbs Post Crisis Superman.
Nope Akira Toriyama stated himself Gohan was the strongest. You’re opinion<<<<<<<<<<<xinfinity Akira Toriyama’s word on Dragonball.
As far as power goes but could mystic Gohan handle a fight against kid buu? Seeing how unpridictable he is.
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Actually, it took six days for Goku to get to Namek, and if it was in the nearest solar system he would have to have been going 261 times lightspeed. The ship is MUCH MUCH MUCH bigger than a bullet. King Kia couldn’t even keep up with Frieza and Goku’s battle. Also there is the fact that in the manga, no one but Vegeta could see Frieza MOVE. These are people who can easily react to lighting. Hell, since they are way more physically able than Raditz, I’d say they could react to even more than twice the speed of lightning, yet they couldn’t see Frieza move.
And all this would equate to travelling speed. I wasn’t talking about a bullet. Omega blaster brought it up. Based on the assumption that lightning is close to the speed of light. *cough* And lets not forget that the ship is still bigger than the Saiyans fighting. The ship is moving in a straight line whilst Saiyans are not standing still. Anybody can see light when it flashes, it still travels at the speed of light, but that doesn’t mean because you can’t see something it’s beyond light speed.
It gave a time frame Goku could get there, and Saiyan ships have been proven faster than Goku’s ship and saiyan ships are proven slower than Frieza’s ship.
Proven where?
As long as you know how to manipulate ki it does. Show me one person being weaker than the other or slower than the other when they have a smaller PL.
Of course you would agree with that, because if you didn’t it would destroy your argument. Why does Buu have piss weak durability?
Are you serious about them not punching faster than bullets?
Dude the guys can easily dodge lightning. Goku did that as a kid with pretty much the same ease as Cloud did, only it actually FOLLOWED him. I’m sorry but saying they can’t punch at bullet speed when they can easily react to lightning speed is crazy.
Dodging lightning is not the same as throwing a punch at lightning speed. When did Goku dodge lightning? Punching =/= reacting.
No one knows what the speed of a lightning. In fact, what we see are actually several strikes, but we could only register one due to the velocity they occur.
If you look at the duration of a typical lightning strike, you will see it takes 0.32 seconds, now lets assume this strike is coming from the highest part of the earths atmosphere, the exosphere, which is roughly 10,000km. Light moves around the radius of the earth 8 times a second, with the radius being around 24,000km. So if you do the math and thats with assuming that clouds are in the exosphere which is false, lightning is nowhere near lightspeed.
Raditz caught a bullet.
DBZ punches > speed of bullet
Did his hand move a greater distance in the same time?
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WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
Buster Sword wrote:
Yeah I get what you are saying, but he won’t have the time to power up his ki, it’s best if he stayed a distance from Superman.
The only reason why he takes a long time to power up is because in those situations he isn’t used to going into those forms. This can be seen when Goku demonstrates the super saiyan transformations to buu. Now as I said before, when they transform they over come what ever injury they had prior to transforming and their durability is enhanced. Goku trains efficiently meaning he makes sure all of his “stats” are improved. Physical strength in DBZ is increased to improve striking power not lifting power. I believe that ss3 Goku’s punches will be on par with supes as well as his durability. Supes will be hitting a bit harder though. And he is also more durable. But Goku could still put up enough of a fight to beat him. A way Goku can win the fight is by combining warp kamehameha with his after image technique.
He still can’t just insta blast. So you are basing his physical strength and durability to be on par with Superman, based on what exactly? Goku’s punches aren’t going to do much here.
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WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
Buster Sword wrote:
Yeah I get what you are saying, but he won’t have the time to power up his ki, it’s best if he stayed a distance from Superman.
The only reason why he takes a long time to power up is because in those situations he isn’t used to going into those forms. This can be seen when Goku demonstrates the super saiyan transformations to buu. Now as I said before, when they transform they over come what ever injury they had prior to transforming and their durability is enhanced. Goku trains efficiently meaning he makes sure all of his “stats” are improved. Physical strength in DBZ is increased to improve striking power not lifting power. I believe that ss3 Goku’s punches will be on par with supes as well as his durability. Supes will be hitting a bit harder though. And he is also more durable. But Goku could still put up enough of a fight to beat him. A way Goku can win the fight is by combining warp kamehameha with his after image technique.
He still can’t just insta blast. So you are basing his physical strength and durability to be on par with Superman, based on what exactly? Goku’s punches aren’t going to do much here.
Sorry I can’t use too many feats, only story logic. Goku wouldn’t have even used SS3 if his strength hadn’t increased with the transformation. Just like how he didn’t use Ultra super saiyan because of the loss in speed. Super saiyan increases more than just energy out put.
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Manchester Black wrote:
As I’ve said in majority of these fights Superman.He is stronger,faster,more durable,smarter,and he can even outlast Goku in a fight.
Wrong. We already decided Goku won in the previous thread. This should be locked.
Manchester Black wrote:
As I’ve said in majority of these fights Superman.He is stronger,faster,more durable,smarter,and he can even outlast Goku in a fight.
Wrong. We already decided Goku won in the previous thread. This should be locked.
Who is we? We decided it to a draw in the thread, then locked it.
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Chilly man wrote:
WTF I ain’t got no sound anymore. And I don’t see anything funny about child abuse.
Obviously from first hand experience you find it quite enjoyable.
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