The Official Naruto Speed vs Bleach Speed topic.

I redoing this since the first topic started off with some trolling and flaming.Debate.

EDIT:

Can Bleach beat this speed?



Haku he gets half a metre towards the mirror and suddenly all the clones are down. I see ten clones. Which means 5m from one mirror to another for each clone. Haku travelled around 50m in a second(just look at the water). So his speed there is around (really rough again) 1000m/s give or take 500m/s. Faster than sound.


And there are guys faster than him in Naruto.

There should also be a time frame for Bleach speed feat so says the rules.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/54/12/
Those gates seem to be about 2 meters in length, average.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/55/17/

Byakuya is about 3 gates away from Ichigo so that’s about 6 meters away.

Byakuya moved in less time then it took both Ichigo and Renji to notice which is less then the blink of an eye. So about 12 meters in around .01 seconds which equals up to around 1200 meters per second.

Time frame for this feat is here.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/55/15/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/55/16/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/55/17/

Big point for the time frame is on page 16 where Ichigo states that his blade disappeared. Which means it happened so fast that he didn’t see it and he couldn’t feel the point where Byakuya’s blade sliced his blade, meaning instant.

It’s not art style, it’s Shunpo which is instantaneous movement over an undetermined distance in a single step.

So Byakuya has shown to be able to travel 2300 Miles Per Hour.

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Wow so fast! Yeah,that doesn’t give a time frame at all.

And prove that Byakuya can travel 2300 Miles Per Hour.

Deviant Kal wrote: Wow so fast! Yeah,that doesn’t give a time frame at all.

And prove that Byakuya can travel 2300 Miles Per Hour.

Sorry, I was wrong. It’s not 2300 MPH.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=1200+m%2Fs+to+mph&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

It’s 2600.

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Now prove it that Byakuya can move that fast.

Deviant Kal wrote: Now prove it that Byakuya can move that fast.

It’s in the scans above.

http://www.csgnetwork.com/csgtsd.html

You can do that math yourself.

He traveled 12 meters (roughly) in around .01-.02 seconds.

You either get 1200 m/s or 600 m/s

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Deviant Kal wrote: Wow so fast! Yeah,that doesn’t give a time frame at all.

And prove that Byakuya can travel 2300 Miles Per Hour.

Neither does your Naruto scan. Not a conrete stated one anyway

Kurt Donald Cobain wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote: Wow so fast! Yeah,that doesn’t give a time frame at all.

And prove that Byakuya can travel 2300 Miles Per Hour.

Neither does your Naruto scan. Not a conrete stated one anyway

Yeah the water does say a time frame.

Deviant Kal wrote:

Kurt Donald Cobain wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote: Wow so fast! Yeah,that doesn’t give a time frame at all.

And prove that Byakuya can travel 2300 Miles Per Hour.

Neither does your Naruto scan. Not a conrete stated one anyway

Yeah the water does say a time frame.

So does “My sword dissappeared”

Kurt Donald Cobain wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote:

Kurt Donald Cobain wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote: Wow so fast! Yeah,that doesn’t give a time frame at all.

And prove that Byakuya can travel 2300 Miles Per Hour.

Neither does your Naruto scan. Not a conrete stated one anyway

Yeah the water does say a time frame.

So does “My sword dissappeared”

It not considered a time frame.

Deviant Kal wrote:

Kurt Donald Cobain wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote:

Kurt Donald Cobain wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote: Wow so fast! Yeah,that doesn’t give a time frame at all.

And prove that Byakuya can travel 2300 Miles Per Hour.

Neither does your Naruto scan. Not a conrete stated one anyway

Yeah the water does say a time frame.

So does “My sword dissappeared”

It not considered a time frame.

You’re only saying that because it proves that you’re wrong.

You hate Bleach dude.

Why would you admit to anything that helps it in debates, right?

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Deviant Kal wrote:

Kurt Donald Cobain wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote:

Kurt Donald Cobain wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote: Wow so fast! Yeah,that doesn’t give a time frame at all.

And prove that Byakuya can travel 2300 Miles Per Hour.

Neither does your Naruto scan. Not a conrete stated one anyway

Yeah the water does say a time frame.

So does “My sword dissappeared”

It not considered a time frame.

In this situation it does. In the situation we can see it was cut apart. So how could he not be going extremly fast and cut it? Did Byakyua walk up and just cut it over an hours time? No of course not.

Thats an art style and the same goes with Naruto when it does it.But falling water isn’t an art style at all.

Devciant Kal NLI wrote: Thats an art style and the same goes with Naruto when it does it.But falling water isn’t an art style at all.

Your logic makes no sense at all.

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This should help in determining speed.

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Darth Nihilus wrote: This should help in determining speed.

lol. Only the most determined anime/manga fanwankers could have made that thing they call logical.

Seriously, the animators/mangaku or whatever are not physicists or engineers. Logic does not apply in the world of fiction.

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LordMarluxia wrote:

Darth Nihilus wrote: This should help in determining speed.

lol. Only the most determined anime/manga fanwankers could have made that thing they call logical.

Seriously, the animators/mangaku or whatever are not physicists or engineers. Logic does not apply in the world of fiction.

So, you have anything else logical to bring to the table?

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Darth Nihilus wrote: This should help in determining speed.

It doesn’t help this case, as I’ve came up with a solid number for Byakuya’s speed with mathematics already. They just don’t want to acknowledge it.

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Cid Highwind wrote:

Darth Nihilus wrote: This should help in determining speed.

It doesn’t help this case, as I’ve came up with a solid number for Byakuya’s speed with mathematics already. They just don’t want to acknowledge it.

What site do you use? Should help with other characters as well.

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