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Since it is most likely going to cause a bit of a problem for some, I am going to list my reasons that I locked the thread here.

This is NOT, I repeat is NOT for debating the thread, this is merely for WHY I locked it. Debating the outcome of the thread is not what this thread is for.

1. Jenova had the better argument. Even by a Broly supporter’s standards.

Metsurestu wrote: How in God’s name are you people losing this debate? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to explain why Broly wins but somehow all of you are failing to do so. This is quite pathetic.


2. The argument was going in circles, the same tired arguments were used again and again, which Jenova or I kept proving wrong(Mostly about the FF7 knowledge)
3. Boo was starting to flame the other side, which is poor debating sport man-ship. Resorting to flaming the other side just because your argument is weaker is not acceptable.

My thoughts on the matter: I would most definitely say Broly wins in a fight against Sephiroth. Sephiroth does have some edges over Broly(Intelligence, more versitle in powers, better spiritual powers for sure ie. Jenova powers) however, I do believe Broly to be the winner, I only debated with the Sephiroth side because I like to see the under dog be represented as best as possible.

Note: This is only in the vs forum for a little while and will be deleted soon. So other mods, do not move this as it is going to be deleted by myself as soon as everyone who needs to posts in the thread.


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I wasn’t flaming Cid because of the debate, I didn’t like how he insulted me and proposing that he was such a great debater, I don’t like conceited people that have no life. >.>

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King Boo wrote: I wasn’t flaming Cid because of the debate, I didn’t like how he insulted me and proposing that he was such a great debater, I don’t like conceited people that have no life. >.>



Get over it already.


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Huh, I didn’t bother debating in that thread because I figured it was in spite to Broly. I think the reason anyone didn’t really bother defending Broly accurately is because it’s a waste of time explaining why he would completely destroy Sephiroth. No one was able to take the debate seriously.

That would be like making a Sephiroth vs Sailormoon thread. Would anyone really care to defend Sephiroth in such a thread and take it seriously?


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King Boo wrote: I wasn’t flaming Cid because of the debate, I didn’t like how he insulted me and proposing that he was such a great debater, I don’t like conceited people that have no life. >.>


He told you that you have poor debating skills. Also, calling him a fat fuck and the bolded do NOT help your case any.


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And there was no universal agreement, and Sephiroth did not have a stronger argument at all, we didn’t even get into the fact Sephiroth couldn’t do anything to Broly.

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Final Fantasy fans make me lol. grin

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GodHandTheWorld wrote: Huh, I didn’t bother debating in that thread because I figured it was in spite to Broly. I think the reason anyone didn’t really bother defending Broly accurately is because it’s a waste of time explaining why he would completely destroy Sephiroth. No one was able to take the debate seriously.

That would be like making a Sephiroth vs Sailormoon thread. Would anyone really care to defend Sephiroth in such a thread and take it seriously?


This actually.

I can’t see how Broly would lose at all.

He throws soccer sized balls of energy that destroy moons and he can rapid fire that shit into sephiroths face. bugeye


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GodHandTheWorld wrote: Huh, I didn’t bother debating in that thread because I figured it was in spite to Broly. I think the reason anyone didn’t really bother defending Broly accurately is because it’s a waste of time explaining why he would completely destroy Sephiroth. No one was able to take the debate seriously.

That would be like making a Sephiroth vs Sailormoon thread. Would anyone really care to defend Sephiroth in such a thread and take it seriously?


People were taking it seriously, as it resorting in flaming. If you look at it, you can see people were taking the thread seriously, but the Sephiroth argument WAS presented stronger

King Boo wrote: And there was no universal agreement, and Sephiroth did not have a stronger argument at all, we didn’t even get into the fact Sephiroth couldn’t do anything to Broly.


I believe that was covered in some of Jenova’s first few posts. Negative lifestream I think was mentioned, constant flow of lightning was also mentioned. I don’t remember EVERYTHING that was mentioned.


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I think there should be rules established about matching certain characters against each other, to prevent topics like Broly vs Sephiroth from being made. There should be some boundaries set in place.

EDIT: I think one of the reasons that Broly didn’t have the better case is because no one could really believe that such a match up was being made. Honestly, nobody was taking that debate seriously. Otherwise Broly would indeed have had better supporters, like me debating in the thread, which I didn’t because I couldn’t take it serious.


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GodHandTheWorld wrote: Huh, I didn’t bother debating in that thread because I figured it was in spite to Broly. I think the reason anyone didn’t really bother defending Broly accurately is because it’s a waste of time explaining why he would completely destroy Sephiroth. No one was able to take the debate seriously.

That would be like making a Sephiroth vs Sailormoon thread. Would anyone really care to defend Sephiroth in such a thread and take it seriously?



Only problem was that it wasn’t spite in any way, Sephiroth always had a good chance of winning. Leave it up to narrow minded fans to think differently, furthermore this thread is the second time Sephiroth has won against Broly, so counting the fact that the previous thread was decided in Seph’s favor should have made people realize that it wasn’t spite.


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King Boo wrote: Final Fantasy fans make me lol. grin

Un-needed. As a third party witness it’s statements like that which really do a serious number to the case you are trying to present.


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Hijacc wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote: Huh, I didn’t bother debating in that thread because I figured it was in spite to Broly. I think the reason anyone didn’t really bother defending Broly accurately is because it’s a waste of time explaining why he would completely destroy Sephiroth. No one was able to take the debate seriously.

That would be like making a Sephiroth vs Sailormoon thread. Would anyone really care to defend Sephiroth in such a thread and take it seriously?


This actually.


Sailor Moon might actually win...In speed anyway, I hear shy travelled a galaxy in seconds.


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Indalecio wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote: Huh, I didn’t bother debating in that thread because I figured it was in spite to Broly. I think the reason anyone didn’t really bother defending Broly accurately is because it’s a waste of time explaining why he would completely destroy Sephiroth. No one was able to take the debate seriously.

That would be like making a Sephiroth vs Sailormoon thread. Would anyone really care to defend Sephiroth in such a thread and take it seriously?


People were taking it seriously, as it resorting in flaming. If you look at it, you can see people were taking the thread seriously, but the Sephiroth argument WAS presented stronger

King Boo wrote: And there was no universal agreement, and Sephiroth did not have a stronger argument at all, we didn’t even get into the fact Sephiroth couldn’t do anything to Broly.


I believe that was covered in some of Jenova’s first few posts. Negative lifestream I think was mentioned, constant flow of lightning was also mentioned. I don’t remember EVERYTHING that was mentioned.


The only feat negative lifestream has was killing humans, Ice Cube made it clear it wouldn’t harm Broly. The fact is, it wasn’t a completed debate, and with a stubborn Cid, it probably never would be.

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Wow, did you guys even read the first post? This is not a continuation of the debate, shut the FUCK UP BOO.


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GodHandTheWorld wrote: I think there should be rules established about matching certain characters against each other, to prevent topics like Broly vs Sephiroth from being made. There should be some boundaries set in place.



I think people need to stop underestimating characters instead. Sephiroth is lightning speed and can take planet busters. I mean damn.

The thread wasn’t locked because people didn’t bother defending Broly. I don’t care who stepped into the thread to debate, Broly wouldn’t have won because there’s no way to prove Broly is faster, can survive what Sephiroth can dish, or even that Broly can hit Sephiroth.


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The King of MVC wrote:

King Boo wrote: Final Fantasy fans make me lol. grin

Un-needed. As a third party witness it’s statements like that which really do a serious number to the case you are trying to present.


It’s locked, this isn’t the thread anymore.

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Jenova wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote: I think there should be rules established about matching certain characters against each other, to prevent topics like Broly vs Sephiroth from being made. There should be some boundaries set in place.



I think people need to stop underestimating characters instead. Sephiroth is lightning speed and can take planet busters. I mean damn.

The thread wasn’t locked because people didn’t bother defending Broly. I don’t care who stepped into the thread to debate, Broly wouldn’t have won because there’s no way to prove Broly is faster, can survive what Sephiroth can dish, or even that Broly can hit Sephiroth.

I really don’t want to debate with you about it. I just wouldn’t be able to take it serious. I really do believe it to be in spite to DBZ.


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GodHandTheWorld wrote: I think there should be rules established about matching certain characters against each other, to prevent topics like Broly vs Sephiroth from being made. There should be some boundaries set in place.

EDIT: I think one of the reasons that Broly didn’t have the better case is because no one could really believe that such a match up was being made. Honestly, nobody was taking that debate seriously.


Well, I tried that, and as Jenova(Cid) pointed out as well as Das Wolf, I do NOT have the authority to make such rules. However, if I can find the PM, Bjarne did say that if there is flame bait threads they can be locked.

to the edit: Well that’s their fault though isn’t it? It’s like if you were at a eating contest and only ate 5 pies when you could have eaten 20 and won the game.


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King Boo wrote:

The King of MVC wrote:

King Boo wrote: Final Fantasy fans make me lol. grin

Un-needed. As a third party witness it’s statements like that which really do a serious number to the case you are trying to present.


It’s locked, this isn’t the thread anymore.

Then stop treating it like it is.


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