LionFranky wrote:
Explain why instead of spewing BS.
Wonder Woman is faster than light.
Helped Superman and Martian Manhunter to move the moon.
She held her own against bloodlusted Superman.
Did you even look through links?
No one in Bleach is faster than light. They are just hypersonic. No one in Bleach has shown planet busting level.
1.lol at wonder woman being faster than light.
2.She helped them? Unimpressive whatsoever. We don’t know how much she helped.
3.PIS.
1. Do you read comic? I mean read at least respect directory.
2. Unimpressive to whom? Bleach? Don’t kid. Show me Bleach cast reaching that strength feat. Superman clearly struggled at the time.
3. Not really. She used wits and tactics. It is not on level of Spidey vs Firelord PIS.
She has strength, speed, reaction, durability to do so.
Are you trying to side with Bleach? If then, try to compare clearly.
Wonder Woman has a natural weakness to cutting force. Blocking bullets with her bracelets is a fucking iconic character image. She gets destroyed by the DBZ of swordplay.
Byakuya Kuchiki by himself would be a nightmare for her.
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Last edited 26 Apr 2009 10:55 am by Captain Charisma
LionFranky wrote:
Explain why instead of spewing BS.
Wonder Woman is faster than light.
Helped Superman and Martian Manhunter to move the moon.
She held her own against bloodlusted Superman.
Did you even look through links?
No one in Bleach is faster than light. They are just hypersonic. No one in Bleach has shown planet busting level.
1.lol at wonder woman being faster than light.
2.She helped them? Unimpressive whatsoever. We don’t know how much she helped.
3.PIS.
1. Do you read comic? I mean read at least respect directory.
2. Unimpressive to whom? Bleach? Don’t kid. Show me Bleach cast reaching that strength feat. Superman clearly struggled at the time.
3. Not really. She used wits and tactics. It is not on level of Spidey vs Firelord PIS.
She has strength, speed, reaction, durability to do so.
Are you trying to side with Bleach? If then, try to compare clearly.
1. Yeah I read the respect directory, maybe if that was a normal showing portrayed consistantly then maybe it would be valid.(For instance, Dr.Doom’s crazy smarts or something in that affect) We constantly see DB characters move faster than the eye can see, sometimes people see them for random reasons, that’s an inconsistancy. Even if it is shown a couple times in one arc when the other times it doesn’t show that. So a couple good showings hardly puts Wonderwoman at that level.
2. It’s unimpressive because she had help. We don’t know how much she put in to that. Also we don’t know how strong Superman was at the time...
3. Wits and tactics eh? She sure got the shit knocked out of her by Deathstroke.
LionFranky wrote:
Explain why instead of spewing BS.
Wonder Woman is faster than light.
Helped Superman and Martian Manhunter to move the moon.
She held her own against bloodlusted Superman.
Did you even look through links?
No one in Bleach is faster than light. They are just hypersonic. No one in Bleach has shown planet busting level.
1.lol at wonder woman being faster than light.
2.She helped them? Unimpressive whatsoever. We don’t know how much she helped.
3.PIS.
1. Do you read comic? I mean read at least respect directory.
2. Unimpressive to whom? Bleach? Don’t kid. Show me Bleach cast reaching that strength feat. Superman clearly struggled at the time.
3. Not really. She used wits and tactics. It is not on level of Spidey vs Firelord PIS.
She has strength, speed, reaction, durability to do so.
Are you trying to side with Bleach? If then, try to compare clearly.
1. Yeah I read the respect directory, maybe if that was a normal showing portrayed consistantly then maybe it would be valid.(For instance, Dr.Doom’s crazy smarts or something in that affect) We constantly see DB characters move faster than the eye can see, sometimes people see them for random reasons, that’s an inconsistancy. Even if it is shown a couple times in one arc when the other times it doesn’t show that. So a couple good showings hardly puts Wonderwoman at that level.
2. It’s unimpressive because she had help. We don’t know how much she put in to that. Also we don’t know how strong Superman was at the time...
3. Wits and tactics eh? She sure got the shit knocked out of her by Deathstroke.
1. DBZ is also inconsistent. Master Roshi’s moon busting feat as example. (Although I try to take it seriously most time) Yet stronger characters only busted city and island. And most of feats are consistent. If not, then the guy would have mentioned it.
2. Gohan beating Perfect Cell is unimpressive right? I mean he needed help. Goku needed help to beat Buu. So Goku is unimpressive as hell right?
And what do you mean unimpressive? To Bleach cast? Do not joke. Bleach cast has never shown strength level anywhere close to that period.
If you compare that to someone like Galactus? Then I agree. Otherwise, GTFO.
3. Now you are talking about something Spidey/Firelord level PIS. Try to use common sense in distinguishing PIS.
LionFranky wrote:
Explain why instead of spewing BS.
Wonder Woman is faster than light.
Helped Superman and Martian Manhunter to move the moon.
She held her own against bloodlusted Superman.
Did you even look through links?
No one in Bleach is faster than light. They are just hypersonic. No one in Bleach has shown planet busting level.
1.lol at wonder woman being faster than light.
2.She helped them? Unimpressive whatsoever. We don’t know how much she helped.
3.PIS.
1. Do you read comic? I mean read at least respect directory.
2. Unimpressive to whom? Bleach? Don’t kid. Show me Bleach cast reaching that strength feat. Superman clearly struggled at the time.
3. Not really. She used wits and tactics. It is not on level of Spidey vs Firelord PIS.
She has strength, speed, reaction, durability to do so.
Are you trying to side with Bleach? If then, try to compare clearly.
1. Yeah I read the respect directory, maybe if that was a normal showing portrayed consistantly then maybe it would be valid.(For instance, Dr.Doom’s crazy smarts or something in that affect) We constantly see DB characters move faster than the eye can see, sometimes people see them for random reasons, that’s an inconsistancy. Even if it is shown a couple times in one arc when the other times it doesn’t show that. So a couple good showings hardly puts Wonderwoman at that level.
2. It’s unimpressive because she had help. We don’t know how much she put in to that. Also we don’t know how strong Superman was at the time...
3. Wits and tactics eh? She sure got the shit knocked out of her by Deathstroke.
1. DBZ is also inconsistent. Master Roshi’s moon busting feat as example. (Although I try to take it seriously most time) Yet stronger characters only busted city and island. And most of feats are consistent. If not, then the guy would have mentioned it.
2. Gohan beating Perfect Cell is unimpressive right? I mean he needed help. Goku needed help to beat Buu. So Goku is unimpressive as hell right?
And what do you mean unimpressive? To Bleach cast? Do not joke. Bleach cast has never shown strength level anywhere close to that period.
If you compare that to someone like Galactus? Then I agree. Otherwise, GTFO.
3. Now you are talking about something Spidey/Firelord level PIS. Try to use common sense in distinguishing PIS.
1. Except Roshi did a FP attack at max power(Remember Kamehamehas increase the PL a little bit according to PL guides in Dezenshuu) while the stronger characters used a wave of their hand.
2. I’m simply saying it’s a feat we can’t really use since we don’t know how much she helped. Gohan got a morale boost and Cell got distracted. Hardly the same thing.
3. PIS compared to showings in the respect thread. Let’s look at Wonderwoman’s history and see which comes out as PIS. The scans in the respect thread or this “PIS” like Deathstroke beating Wonderwoman.
Big Black Moses wrote:
Wonder Woman has a natural weakness to cutting force. Blocking bullets with her bracelets is a fucking iconic character image. She gets destroyed by the DBZ of swordplay.
Byakuya Kuchiki by himself would be a nightmare for her.
Tell me how slow ass like Byakuya can catch her? Ichigo who is hypersonic at best could keep up with him. You have prove that Bleach cast are lightspeed.
1. Are you suggesting that you can’t destroy a city if someone lesser than you have destroyed the moon? Roshi used his buffed-up power on two occasions, first when he turned a mythic mountain into rumbles and when he destroyed the moon. In the first occasion he was simply willing to unleash enough energy to destroy the mountain, in the second he was only putting out enough energy to destroy the moon. He was controlling the output in other words. I’m sure Piccolo did the same when he wanted to destroy the island. He wanted to dominate the world, not destroy it.
2. We do not know the level of contribution is what he’s trying to say. None the less it’s an inconstant feat. WW struggles with far less than that.
3. Unless you’re willing to accept that Wonder Woman would stalemate a bloodlusted Superman you’re not suppose to take it as anything else than PIS.
Omniscifer wrote:
1. Are you suggesting that you can’t destroy a city if someone lesser than you have destroyed the moon? Roshi used his buffed-up power on two occasions, first when he turned a mythic mountain into rumbles and when he destroyed the moon. In the first occasion he was simply willing to unleash enough energy to destroy the mountain, in the second he was only putting out enough energy to destroy the moon. He was controlling the output in other words. I’m sure Piccolo did the same when he wanted to destroy the island. He wanted to dominate the world, not destroy it.
2. We do not know the level of contribution is what he’s trying to say. None the less it’s an inconstant feat. WW struggles with far less than that.
3. Unless you’re willing to accept that Wonder Woman would stalemate a bloodlusted Superman you’re not suppose to take it as anything else than PIS.
1. DBZ is pretty inconsistent you know. Tell me. Why Cell’s punch only made hole on the ground?
2. So she contributed none? If this is Wonder Woman vs someone like Galactus. Then I may look at it, but this is Bleach. Are you suggesting Bleach cast can reach that strength level? Even if she aided them, that’s shit more than Bleach can dream.
3. She has constantly shown strength, speed and durability to do so. So that’s not PIS. Spiderman has constantly shown he is at metahuman at best. So his beating Firelord is clearly PIS. See the difference?
And WW doesn’t react at light speed, she wouldn’t even be able to travel in light speed.
The only way in DC canon to travel in lightspeed or faster is through the speed force. This has been explained in multiple occasions.
And when you move from one point to another you get a distance to accelerate. So when Superman flies far distances just under the speed of light (99,98% was it?) with time-dilation and everything he gets time to accelerate. He can’t move from 0 to 99.98% SoL in point blank.
And I’m sure Wonder Woman have super-sonic reaction and nothing more.
Big Black Moses wrote:
Wonder Woman has a natural weakness to cutting force. Blocking bullets with her bracelets is a fucking iconic character image. She gets destroyed by the DBZ of swordplay.
Byakuya Kuchiki by himself would be a nightmare for her.
Tell me how slow ass like Byakuya can catch her? Ichigo who is hypersonic at best could keep up with him. You have prove that Bleach cast are lightspeed.
I’d imagine by shooting her with his invisible knives. Wonder Woman isn’t as fast as Ichigo in combat, let alone faster. Interesting to note, that blocking those daggers was the greatest feat of combat speed Wonder Woman has displayed, and isn’t as impressive as Ichigo blocking the thousand blossom bankai.
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Last edited 26 Apr 2009 11:26 am by Captain Charisma
LionFranky wrote:
1. DBZ is pretty inconsistent you know. Tell me. Why Cell’s punch only made hole on the ground?
Do you need the physical mechanics of how a punch generates force? Fine:
F = ma: where a is the deceleration in the distance of hit and knock-back.
Believe me, you won’t get anything more than a slight sonic-boom out of that, yet a lone an explosion that would collapse the earth or whatever you’re expecting.
LionFranky wrote:
2. So she contributed none?
No, but we don’t know how much. Besides, strength has nothing to do with the power of punches or other dynamical movement. It’s static strength, just because you can lift much doesn’t mean you punch hard.
As BBM says, her durability is less than impeccable.
LionFranky wrote:
3. She has constantly shown strength, speed and durability to do so. So that’s not PIS. Spiderman has constantly shown he is at metahuman at best. So his beating Firelord is clearly PIS. See the difference?
She is not Superman. Bullets don’t bounce off of her.
The thing is she clearly withstood attacks from skyfather level beings.
And how would they tag her anway? They get speedblitzed before they can do anything.
CB. Are you supporting Bleach here? What about you Omni? You can’t just get away with saying “Oh so inconsistent”
Look at Chad smacking Hollow with Telephone pole without any power up.
LionFranky wrote:
The thing is she clearly withstood attacks from skyfather level beings.
Because the plot required it. She’s not taking hits that can bring down the likes of Superman and Martian Manhunter in a single hit.
LionFranky wrote:
And how would they tag her anway? They get speedblitzed before they can do anything.
When you blitz you move short distances so fast that you’re opponent is unable to react. But that’s a feat of acceleration, not velocity. Her acceleration is less than to that of bullets (bullets go from point blank to super sonic speeds) — she can block bullets but she has a farther distance to move her arms through.
Then again Shinigami’s are invisible. I think she’d get penetrated with some sharp blades without even knowing what’s happening.
LionFranky wrote:
What about you Omni? You can’t just get away with saying “Oh so inconsistent”
I think Wonder Woman would go down after a good fight if she could see them.
LionFranky wrote:
Look at Chad smacking Hollow with Telephone pole without any power up.
That’s you’re PIS right there. You’d know if you’ve read Bleach.
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