Zack vs Cloud

Both have The Buster Sword and it’s AC Cloud vs Crisis Core Zack.

My main point is Zack beat Zero Bahamut who is the strongest Bahamut ubove both Bahamut and Neo Bahamut sure Cloud beat Sin Bahamut but could it do this...



Next Zack actualy was a 1st Class SOLIDER not a crappy MP lol he had the training down and was brilliant at hand to hand combat aswell as Sword play.

Finaly he is Bullet time fast and is the origenator of the Omni Slash Tech so should make for an interesting debate?

“It’s Ironic how life is an endless pursuit of dream’s and yet we only find that dream in the eternal rest that awaits at the end of our journey through life..."

I think Zack would win this, if he was still alive, he would’ve wooped cloud easily.

Agreed both have as much skill with a Blade and Zack can fight even without one plus Sephiroth never held back on him.

“It’s Ironic how life is an endless pursuit of dream’s and yet we only find that dream in the eternal rest that awaits at the end of our journey through life..."

That means that Sephiroth wasn’t as strong as we thought, if he got beaten by Cloud, who could get beaten up by Zack. Therefore, Zack should be able to take out Sephiroth like crap. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! YOU HAVE OPENED MY EYES TO A HORRIBLE HORRIBLE REALITY!! I WILL NO LONGER SEE SEPHIROTH THE SAME!!!!

Dont worry Cloud beat Sephiroth because he 1st had a team of eight people backing him, second cus Sephiroth was less than half his full power (he was missing Loz and Yazzo) plus he underestimated Cloud arrogantly sticking his sword through his shoulder rather than head lol.

Both Zack and Cloud fail in comparison to the Seph dude true dat be.

But here is a rather cool finisher by Zack:

“It’s Ironic how life is an endless pursuit of dream’s and yet we only find that dream in the eternal rest that awaits at the end of our journey through life..."

Thank you. You have helped me regain my faith in Sephiroth. I don’t know how to thank you, so I wont. Crap, I already did. Well, I guess I did know how to.

I know some people actualy belive Cloud was on par with Sephiroth and won fair and Square, but let’s be honest the Omni-Slash is a cheap move witch people have yet to explain a factual reason behind why Sephiroth couldent simply avoid the tech in AC i mean he had Cloud outclassed in every aspect acording to the UO (ULTIMA OMAGA) it go’s on about how Sephiroth held back without even trying during thir fight, and yet Cloud somehow caught him with Omni-Slash V5 why not simply dodge it???

“It’s Ironic how life is an endless pursuit of dream’s and yet we only find that dream in the eternal rest that awaits at the end of our journey through life..."

Because he wanted some ham.

Lmao that is the most random reason ive heared

“It’s Ironic how life is an endless pursuit of dream’s and yet we only find that dream in the eternal rest that awaits at the end of our journey through life..."

Really, you need to spend time with my friend Bob Sacamanto.

Lol i will

“It’s Ironic how life is an endless pursuit of dream’s and yet we only find that dream in the eternal rest that awaits at the end of our journey through life..."

My main point is Zack beat Zero Bahamut who is the strongest Bahamut ubove both Bahamut and Neo Bahamut sure Cloud beat Sin Bahamut but could it do this...

Where does it say Zero is more powerful than Sin? I want proof.

Next Zack actualy was a 1st Class SOLIDER not a crappy MP lol he had the training down and was brilliant at hand to hand combat aswell as Sword play.

Finaly he is Bullet time fast and is the origenator of the Omni Slash Tech so should make for an interesting debate?

Cloud is bullet time too, your point? What rank he was means nothing, Cloud not getting into Soilder has nothing to do with his abilities in AC, so stop trying to male Cloud look bad, I could easily say if Zack was so badass, why is he dead? But do you see me doing this?
I’m almost certain he didn’t invent it, he said Cloud used his move, that doesn’t mean he invented it. Did you invent punching? It says that the moves done comes to people who uses the Buster Sword.

I think Zack would win this, if he was still alive, he would’ve wooped cloud easily.

Then you under estimate Cloud as much as Sephiroth did, and where did that get him, was it killed now?

Agreed both have as much skill with a Blade and Zack can fight even without one plus Sephiroth never held back on him.

Cloud has 6 blades so losing one wouldn’t do much. OMFG YOU KEEP ON FORGETTING THAT ZACK FOUGHT THE WEAKEST INCARNATION OF SEPHIROTH, AND HE GOT HIS ASS HANDED TO HIM. Cloud thought uber powerful demi god Sephiroth, toe on toe, and won, it doesn’t matter how he won, he beat the most powerful character, you don’t beat the most powerful character 3 times by accident.

That means that Sephiroth wasn’t as strong as we thought, if he got beaten by Cloud, who could get beaten up by Zack. Therefore, Zack should be able to take out Sephiroth like crap. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! YOU HAVE OPENED MY EYES TO A HORRIBLE HORRIBLE REALITY!! I WILL NO LONGER SEE SEPHIROTH THE SAME!!!!

Nope, Sephiroth IS insanely powerful. Don’t you get it, he gets beaten by Cloud because Cloud > Zack. There is no shame in getting beaten by omnislash, especially the AC one. Zack couldn’t beat Sephiroth, not even a human one.

Dont worry Cloud beat Sephiroth because he 1st had a team of eight people backing him, second cus Sephiroth was less than half his full power (he was missing Loz and Yazzo) plus he underestimated Cloud arrogantly sticking his sword through his shoulder rather than head lol.

Both Zack and Cloud fail in comparison to the Seph dude true dat be.

But here is a rather cool finisher by Zack:

DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT SAFER SEPHIROTH > CRISIS CORE SEPHIROTH? What don’t you get about that, those 8 fighters were fighting something WAY harder than what Zack fought. Oh and you forget about Cloud beat Sephiroth by HIMSELF. Forget tha too?
How many of remnants who were turned into Sephiroth has nothing to do with his power, any one of them would have brought a fully powered one back, which it did. Because SE say there’s nothing above AC Sephiroth.
Yes he under estimated Cloud, but no time before that. That just shows you know he wasn’t 'toying' with Cloud until he actually beat him.

Thank you. You have helped me regain my faith in Sephiroth. I don’t know how to thank you, so I wont. Crap, I already did. Well, I guess I did know how to.

I pity you, who believes this nonsense LOL.

I know some people actualy belive Cloud was on par with Sephiroth and won fair and Square, but let’s be honest the Omni-Slash is a cheap move witch people have yet to explain a factual reason behind why Sephiroth couldent simply avoid the tech in AC i mean he had Cloud outclassed in every aspect acording to the UO (ULTIMA OMAGA) it go’s on about how Sephiroth held back without even trying during thir fight, and yet Cloud somehow caught him with Omni-Slash V5 why not simply dodge it???

No body said he was on par, we said he matched him skill for skill, toe on toe, Sephiroth IS more powerful than Cloud or anyone else in VII verse, nobody is denying that. What has fair and square got to do with anything? So Sephiroth bringing down buildings to his advantage was fair? Nobody cares what he did, he lost, get over it. You don’t like Cloud his omnislash or anything associated with him, maybe his buster sword but that’s it, I don’t believe you do because every thread you make is the same Someone > Cloud omfg you thought Tidus could pwn Cloud. No factual reasoning why Sephiroth didn’t or was it COULDN’T evade Omnislash. If Sephiroth could evade omnislash, why didn’t he, oh it couldn’t be because he CAN’T?
UO said Cloud was 'outmatched' not 'outclassed' Cloud lasts what, six minutes against the most powerful Sephiroth incarnation there was, Zack lasts about 2-3 minutes in LO against a Base Sephiroth, so Zack must surely be more powerful yeah, that must be it, he’s so much more powerful than Cloud he loses quicker to a weaker form.
OMFG Stop lying about Sephiroth toying and holding back, UO didn’t say that, they just said Cloud was outmatched, everything else is just Sephy fan hyperbole, UO already says Sephiroth is the most powerful, but no people have to make things up to make them seem 'better' than what they really are. And the UO didn’t say he wasn’t trying either, I’ve told you this in every other thread, Sephiroth doesn’t just have Physical abilites, he has spiritual abilities too, THAT’S the department where he 'held' back in, did yu see him casting Supa Nova? No, he just used pure physical force, which Cloud was toe on toe with, until he got fatigued. And Omnislash > Faster than bullets, don’t make me have to prove this to you again.

Cloud would kick zacks ass. Iv’e actually played crisis core and VII and I know that cloud has had more battle experience...
not to mention he has an incredible sword

1. have you watched the first Video i posted that is dire proof Zeo pwn’s Sin in power he wiped out the moon and a portion of earth with his Mega Flare, Sin was gonna take out a town at best, it is smple by pure feat alone it prove’s itself stronger if anything Prove Sin is superior.

Here it Say’s Zero Bahamut can take out a country or too with it’s attack known as “Tera Flare” Sin still uses Mega Flare correct once again defeated by evolution.

2. Zack made Omni-Slash, any man can throw a punch but to kreate a tech require’s skill Zack say’s “his move” meaning exactly what he said simple as, and Zack died defending Cloud against hundred’s of Solider’s without him there was no Cloud.

Were douse it say the move come’s to those that poses the Buster Sword?, if so why douse it work in AC when Cloud no longer used it?

3. Zack fought Genesis, Bahamut, Bahamut Zero, Sephiroth and Minerva the Godess of Gia Hundred’s of Solider’s to name a few and beat all but Sephiroth who he fought for around as long as Cloud in Crisis Core (not Last Order lol) so id say he did well before he died, Cloud however was killed in AC by Loz and Yazzo before being revived.

4. They are both useing Buster Sword witch mean’s if Cloud lost it he is out matched in hand to hand, next Sephiroth never held back on Zack something we all no he did with Cloud, like you said Seph was more powerful but he never used his piritual control or Magic he used his skill (witch would have improved none since he was dead after Crisis Core so he dident exactly train did he).

And Cloud beat Seph with a party first time, And second round was in the LifeStream tell me if there is nothing Ubove Sephiroth then why is Omni-Slash so effective basically saying anyone that fast beat’s Sephiroth?

And Third he was clearly owning Cloud from begining to end of th fight he could have killed him but instead he toyed and if his skill is the same Zack did better.

5. Zack couldent beat Sephiroth not holding back neither could Cloud he could have killed Cloud in AC but instead he took his time inflicting pain upon him, as ive pointed out a thousand time’s UO say’s Sephiroth outclassed Cloud and toyed with him end of.

Ive pretty much just answered the next 2 as your just stateing the same thing’s again post something from UO if your so sure it said that lol because i know for a fact it dousent dude.

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im a huge cloud fan so...

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First Tsurugi >>> Buster Sword

mddmartino wrote: Cloud would kick zacks ass. Iv’e actually played crisis core and VII and I know that cloud has had more battle experience...
not to mention he has an incredible sword

Cloud was an MP in Crisis Core he never started properly fighting untill FF7 witch covers alittle over 2yr’s mabe 3 if you count DoC Cloud, Zack has fought since he was a young Boy up untill his early 20’s in crisis Core were he was 1st class and frequently in battle.

Zack has more experiance and training in hand to hand and tactic’s aswell as swordplay.

“It’s Ironic how life is an endless pursuit of dream’s and yet we only find that dream in the eternal rest that awaits at the end of our journey through life..."

MCeastside wrote: im a huge cloud fan so...

Well vote for him if tht is how you truely feel, but sometime’s who would win is not down to who your a fan of, i love Goku but i dont see him beating Superman anytime soon...

“It’s Ironic how life is an endless pursuit of dream’s and yet we only find that dream in the eternal rest that awaits at the end of our journey through life..."

Red_Calibur9 wrote: First Tsurugi >>> Buster Sword

wtf lol

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Kyle Knight wrote:

Red_Calibur9 wrote: First Tsurugi >>> Buster Sword

wtf lol

Cloud’s AC sword is way better than the Buster Sword.

Therefor, Omnislash V5 >>>> Omnislash.