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Hedatary wrote: sigh...the point is, this thread is useless. We are back to square one and if we go any further in this discussion, it would only result in assumptions, theories and pointless arguments.



I suppose but i had proof that Zeru’s fire was more powerful that Yamamoto’s


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I’m sure you do. But seeing as we have no proof of how strong the old man’s fire is, you would only be winning this debate on a technicality.


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Hedatary wrote: I’m sure you do. But seeing as we have no proof of how strong the old man’s fire is, you would only be winning this debate on a technicality.



Lets leave this as it is for now.

When Yamamoto shows us his Bankai then we can start debating again.


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EVEN if he did show his banki, there isn’t going to be any point unless there is some kind of actual proof. That monster the old man defeated on the latest chapter, can Luffy beat him?

Seeing as no one knows the answer to that....


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Hedatary wrote: EVEN if he did show his banki, there isn’t going to be any point unless there is some kind of actual proof. That monster the old man defeated on the latest chapter, can Luffy beat him?

Seeing as no one knows the answer to that....



Luffy has nothing to do with this thread.

Lets leave this as it is.


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Luffy? huh


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Darth Nihilus wrote: Luffy? huh



That is what i though.


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Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote:

Hedatary wrote: sigh...the point is, this thread is useless. We are back to square one and if we go any further in this discussion, it would only result in assumptions, theories and pointless arguments.



I suppose but i had proof that Zeru’s fire was more powerful that Yamamoto’s



Well Lad quit bein' yerself, and post th' proof.


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WHAT? You’re actually comparing Zeru’s flame to Yamamoto? The same Zeru that appeared in like... 1 episode? 1 fight? Didn’t do ANYTHING significant? Man, your YYH-wanking is ridiculous.

Yamamoto’s fire turns rocks to ashes instantly. What part of that do you not understand? That’s a pretty impressive feat. FAR more impressive than Zeru cutting a cup in half.

Also, in Saint’s defense, this isn’t too unfair. After all, neither Zeru or Yamamoto have that many feats. You don’t even see Yamamoto fight that much.... but he’s pretty uber, since he’s obviously giving Ukitake and Shunsui, two captains, trouble with out much effort.

As for Zeru... cannon fodder anyone? Haha.

Sorry, but Yamamotos fire whips up Zeru’s something fierce.

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Paladin Alexander Anderson wrote:

Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote:

Hedatary wrote: sigh...the point is, this thread is useless. We are back to square one and if we go any further in this discussion, it would only result in assumptions, theories and pointless arguments.



I suppose but i had proof that Zeru’s fire was more powerful that Yamamoto’s



Well Lad quit bein' yerself, and post th' proof.



Okay.


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Ky wrote: WHAT? You’re actually comparing Zeru’s flame to Yamamoto? The same Zeru that appeared in like... 1 episode? 1 fight? Didn’t do ANYTHING significant? Man, your YYH-wanking is ridiculous.

Yamamoto’s fire turns rocks to ashes instantly. What part of that do you not understand? That’s a pretty impressive feat. FAR more impressive than Zeru cutting a cup in half.

Also, in Saint’s defense, this isn’t too unfair. After all, neither Zeru or Yamamoto have that many feats. You don’t even see Yamamoto fight that much.... but he’s pretty uber, since he’s obviously giving Ukitake and Shunsui, two captains, trouble with out much effort.

As for Zeru... cannon fodder anyone? Haha.

Sorry, but Yamamotos fire whips up Zeru’s something fierce.



Wait for my proof.


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Okay we’ll wait


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Chaos Theory wrote: Okay we’ll wait



Okay.


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Lets start with this.

Suzaku’s Dark Lightning Punch could incinerate humans with a mere touch.
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2452/yuuyuuhakushovol5c06pagnm9.jpg

Yusuke gets hit by Suzaku’s Dark Lightning Punch an attack that combined Lightning with Youki.
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3023/yuuyuuhakushovol5c06pagis8.jpg

The temperature of lightning is 60,000 degrees Fahrenheit yet when humans are struck by it they do not get incinerated yet Suzaku’s lightning incinerates humans with a mere touch making it beyond 60,000 degrees.

Yusuke took this attack quite well and he took it several times.

Here Yusuke takes a Dark Lightning Arrow to his shoulder.
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7038/14hc9.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/14hc9.jpg/1/w750.png

Here Yusuke gets shocked by 2 Suzaku clones for several minutes yet Yusuke survives.
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8321/16uj8.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/16uj8.jpg/1/w750.png
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/17wa2.jpg/1/w750.png
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http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/06ed6.jpg/1/w750.png
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http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/395/12jw6.jpg

Now you may be asking what all of this has to do with Zeru here is what it has to do with him.

To prepare for the Dark Tournament Team Urameshi grew alot more powerful than before essentially making everybody on the team more powerful than Suzaku and his Lightning.

Here in this scan everybody in Team Urameshi considers Zeru’s fire to be powerful.

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1592/yuuyuukahushovol6c09pagnl7.png
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4748/yuuyuuhakushovol7c02paghf3.png

He would of even of killed Hiei with this attack if it was not for the Jagan Eye Hiei had.
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9992/yuuyuuhakushovol7c02pagfi3.png

If Hiei could not survive that attack without the Jagan Eye then that means Zeru’s fire is way beyond 60,000 degrees.

Now Yamamoto’s fire can incinerate rocks to ashes.

I believe a Atomic Bomb could do the same and the temperature of a Atomic Bomb is 7200 degrees Fahrenheit.

That fails in comparison to Zeru’s fire.

But i have a feeling that i am wrong about the temperature of Yamamoto’s fire somebody please proof me wrong.


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The Atomic Bomb didn’t turn Rock to ash, it changed the chemical makeup from the heat given off. On the other hand the 7000 degeres that the bomb gives off = this Half of the energy was consumed when the explosion generated an ultra high air pressure which resulted in very strong bomb blast (wind). One third of the energy was consumed when the explosion generated heat, while the rest of the energy was consumed when the explosion generated radiation. So in the end a third of a half.

But I don’t see anything in those scans that shows his fire being hotter then Yammamoto’s in fact I don’t see it burning anything to ash either


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Notice how Suzaku has nothing to do with Zeru. straight


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lol


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Darth Nihilus wrote: Notice how Suzaku has nothing to do with Zeru. straight



I think he was making a foundation for his argument


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Chaos Theory wrote:

Darth Nihilus wrote: Notice how Suzaku has nothing to do with Zeru. straight



I think he was making a foundation for his argument



Doesn’t seem to be working. Yusuke was able to tank his lightning.


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True, Although the scans of the actual guy and his fire seems to be lower in power then when Yammamoto first showed his Shikai


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