Zeru's fire vs Yamamoto's fire

Chaos Theory NLI wrote: Demon World Lightning may not be the same as real lightning

But the fact that it could incinerate humans with a mere touch means that it was more powerful than real lightning when it was fused with Youki.

Exactly what is your point? You just pointed out the obvious so what was your point?

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Christian Gold Saint of Aries NLI wrote:

Chaos Theory NLI wrote: Demon World Lightning may not be the same as real lightning

But the fact that it could incinerate humans with a mere touch means that it was more powerful than real lightning when it was fused with Youki.

That could be a hyperboil statement since the only person we’ve seen it used on it didn’t, and if I remember correctly, the rest of the time he generated the attack himself not from the 'real' deal. So this theory seems to have major holes in it

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Ky wrote:

Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote:

Ky wrote:

Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote:

Ky wrote: Ok, so Youki/Reiki enhance the strength of a given element. That’s true. But if they’re two entirely different elements, then comparing is really pointless.

Youki lightning has more voltage/thrust behind it. It gives off a stronger shock to it.

Youki fire has more temperature to it. It burns faster.

Both do entirely different kinds of damage, so they are incomparable

I think you missed the part where i said that Hiei was more durable than Yusuke who had previously survived Suzaku’s lightning on several occasions. Hiei would of gotten killed by Zeru’s fire if it would of not of been for the Jagan Eye meaning Zeru’s fire was more powerful than Suzaku’s lightning.

ONCE AGAIN. The two are INCOMPARABLE. Why the are you bringing in something that’s completely irrelevant to this discussion? Even as a basis for how powerful a technique is, if the two are completely different, there’s no point in comparing the two.

Lightning and fire, no matter how powerful they are, damage in different ways. Lightning is a powerful shock to the system. It doesn’t instantly burn the target on site. Fire DOES.

Did Suzaku’s lightning burn up Yusuke when he kept getting hit? No. Did Zeru’s flame burn his targets? Yes. Why exactly is this so hard for you to understand? If you want to compare Suzaku’s lightning to somebody elses lightning, go right ahead. But don’t use it as a basis for something completely different, no matter how much more powerful the next tech is.

You’re comparing fire to fire. You’re not comparing lightning to fire to fire.

Bottom line : Zeru’s fire isn’t as powerful as Yamamoto’s.

Suzaku’s lightning could incinerate humans with a mere touch. So it can compare to Zeru’s fire. The only reason Yusuke was not instantly incinerated by Suzaku’s lightning was becuase Yusuke had a powerful layer of Reiki surrounding his body.

When did Suzaku ever use his lightning on anybody? IIRC, he just used it on Yusuke over and over again.

Doesn’t matter though, does it? Instantly turning rock into ashes is still more meaty than anything in YYH up to that point.

Demons and humans have entered Maze Castle long before the Reikai Tentai did. Suzaku even stated that Yusuke was the first human not to die from his lightning meaning he has used it on other targets in the past.

Zeru’s Youki is more powerful than Suzaku’s Youki but the temperature of lightning is 60,000 degrees Fahrenheit while the highest temperature fire goes is 2730 degrees Fahrenheit. But when combined with Youki it becomes alot more powerful

Once again Hiei who was more durable than Yusuke who could survive lightning at over 60,000 degrees would of been killed by Zeru’s fire if it would of not of been for the Jagan Eye meaning Zeru’s fire was way beyond 60,000 degrees.

The temperature of the surface of the sun is about 11,000 degrees Fahrenheit. If you were to place a rock or many rocks that close to the sun surely enough they would be incinerated to nothing not even ashes. The temperature of lightning is about six times the temperature of the surface of the sun and that is just regular lightning Suzaku’s lightning is beyond that and Zeru’s fire is way beyond Suzaku’s lightning.

That is an example of how powerful Zeru’s fire is.

Narrative hyperbole statement. There needs to be an actual feat behind it to hold water. Sorry, but it doesn’t work.

Nice try though.