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how powerful is Gomu Gomu no Grizzly Magnum

[Reply] #21
12-12-2012 05:58 PM
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Polar wrote: Generic punch? That is G2+Haki. Not a casually thrown punch. Anyways you can take it as you like. There is no point in arguing since this is not a VS thread. So I won’t provide more details. And I would really like to lol at you OPtards. When I stated Dangai Ichigo was mulit-mountain buster, you didn’t agree since he didn’t do that. But now your wanking becomes greater due to Law cutting some mountain with his hax power(heck it is not even physical DC)grin.



it’s still a generic punch whether you like it or not. it isn’t a specific technique like gomu gomu no bazooka or something.
ichigo has noting to do with this thread.

law also has nothing to do with this thread.


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[Reply] #22
12-12-2012 06:05 PM
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Yeah, Polar’s statement is pretty much right.

It’s pretty weak considering the other things we’ve seen from Luffy. I’d thought he would have blown the laboratory apart, but all it did was make Caesar fly... whoopie.

I’m actually disappointed. Luffy wouldn’t last against Law as it is.

[Reply] #23
12-12-2012 06:19 PM
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Just because it was smaller, doesn’t mean it was weaker. Look at red hawk. That sent hody flying to noah when they were 10,000 feet under the sea. Since this is gear third with two haki infused fists that could even send buggy flying from a gomu gomu no bazooka, Then we can imply that elephant gatling was alot stronger than red hawk since it’s half an island buster. Laws attack wasn’t really godly, but it came from his manipulation of his devil fruit. He increased his swords range in replacement for his room. But im not sure how that works. Maybe his room is larger than i think. Luffy should be stronger than law. How? He’s the protagonist and he was complimented by doflamingo that he could be a better vessel. Girzzly magnum sent caesar flying, and law could only cut the ice island with his devil fruit. It’s hard comparing swords with fists. But luffy’s shown more with raw strength. He defeated hody who took over 100 pills. And each pill mulitplied their strength by 2. Meaning hody probably had strength over a 100,000,000 people. That’s no small feat. And since luffy blocked hody’s kick with busoshoku, his strength is even greater than hodys. Grizzly magnum was no magic trick. It is one of luffy’s greatest attacks up to date. And remember, just a regular punch with busoshoku haki dented caesars face through anger.

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12-12-2012 06:20 PM
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Why is power being measured by area of effect? You guys are going about this all wrong.


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[Reply] #25
12-12-2012 06:22 PM
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It’s generic now. He mastered gear second and gear third over the two years. Why do you even think that luffy pulled off an elephant gatling gun, an attack with gear third thrown around casually.

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12-12-2012 06:25 PM
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Ademus wrote: Why is power being measured by area of effect? You guys are going about this all wrong.


Luffy has the strength over a 100,000,000 men. Proven with hody and his pill intake. It was condensed all into one blast. By my guess, the attack showed the busoshoku haki cracking when luffy did the attack. It looked like the haki was literally absorbed by caesar. The fingers were bare, i think.

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Well the grizly magnum doesnt look so impressive compared to law for example but this attack is overall incredible powerful more devastating than an elephant gatling aimed at a single target.


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[Reply] #28
12-12-2012 06:31 PM
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It was his devil fruit. Law isn’t godlike. Luffy’s haki is probably even better than vergos. Are you doubting rayleigh’s haki training? First mate of the pirate king sounds like a big title.

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12-12-2012 06:52 PM
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It was focused on a single target and thus we didn’t see how much damage it would cause DC eise; like most of Luffy’s attacks.

However, like Doctor stated, Luffy generic punch destroyed a pacifista (has muti-city block durability), this is an haki armored EB. No less than AT LEAST small town level.


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12-12-2012 07:38 PM
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Hmm it seems to me that these comparisons are pointless

From appearances I believe some of your are right. If you consider that Clown is NOT a fighter (by a long shot). He is not a battle harden guy and its really the thing I say about all Logia. I kind of feel like their strength (if it isn’t already formidable) plateaus because from the time they ingested that fruit they would really never have to throw another punch for the rest of their lives.

Anyways because of that, we’re talking about a Dr. A very vain doctor with no combat ability. If Luffy had to use a Haki enfused double gear attack that move should have killed Caesar. Shinokuni magnified a gas man (with no fighting ability) strength to probably Season 2 of OP levels.

If for the sake of Comparison they are literally saying Luffy had to use more power on a guy with raw stamina, years of military combat ability, who is a FISHMAN hopped up on Energy steroids that doubles your power and he ingested quite frankly a years supply of the crap.

So with that I do kind of feel that the move was not ready for it’s time. Maybe if Luffy just did an Elephant Gun (even though I would have wanted to see a new move) I still would be satisfied. Or if he used a modified version of a move that wasn’t a finisher.

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12-12-2012 07:40 PM
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That attack would have put anyone on that island to sleep including Smoker Law Vergo Sanji Zoro etc.

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12-12-2012 08:21 PM
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I would say stronger than EG, but much weaker than EGspam.

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off topic but a cool attack luffy could do is a
ELEPHANT GIANT BELL: luffy stretches his head out uses a fusion of haki and gear 3 on his head and uses gum gum bell smiley

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it seems people are confused.

law’s feat was impressive not because of raw destructive capacity, it was impressive because:

A. the speed at which law himself could move and the speed that room can expand.

B. the size of room, it was big enough to engulf an entire side of that section of punk hazard which is basically its own island.

C. how much mass it was capable of cutting, it cut through the SAD tanks, the facility, mountains around it AND the entire island in half as well with a single slice.

D. the fact that it was able to ignore a haki master, someone who was literally able to coat his entire body in haki.


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Stronger than Obito is whiny. That’s how strong it is.


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[Reply] #36
12-12-2012 09:41 PM
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The Doctor wrote:

Polar wrote: Multi-city block level+ to small town level.



definitely not. that’s the power of a generic no name punch as luffy was able to one shot a pacifista with a single punch.

Wasn’t that with a Haki enhanced Gear 2nd Jet Pistol?

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The Doctor wrote: it seems people are confused.

law’s feat was impressive not because of raw destructive capacity, it was impressive because:

A. the speed at which law himself could move and the speed that room can expand.

B. the size of room, it was big enough to engulf an entire side of that section of punk hazard which is basically its own island.

C. how much mass it was capable of cutting, it cut through the SAD tanks, the facility, mountains around it AND the entire island in half as well with a single slice.

D. the fact that it was able to ignore a haki master, someone who was literally able to coat his entire body in haki.



dude half of PH is not island size


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12-12-2012 09:47 PM
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yay wrote:

The Doctor wrote:

Polar wrote: Multi-city block level+ to small town level.



definitely not. that’s the power of a generic no name punch as luffy was able to one shot a pacifista with a single punch.

Wasn’t that with a Haki enhanced Gear 2nd Jet Pistol?

http://fs01.manga-access.com/manga/776/28994/14_15.png
These freaks are trying to make Luffy seem stronger than what he really is.

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Honestly, Vergo was clearly portrayed as more of a threat than CC. Luffy wasn’t going to (atleast visually) mountain bust on someone whose face was dented by a generic punch, and was crying as the punch approached him. That said, Luffy can obviously control the size of his fists. He created an Elephant Gun the size of Monster Point Chopper earlier this arc, who is much smaller than the Kraken. A full sized Grizzly Magnum would likely be more powerful that what a lot of people are assuming based on what shown in this chapter.

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The Doctor wrote: it seems people are confused.

law’s feat was impressive not because of raw destructive capacity, it was impressive because:

A. the speed at which law himself could move and the speed that room can expand.

B. the size of room, it was big enough to engulf an entire side of that section of punk hazard which is basically its own island.

C. how much mass it was capable of cutting, it cut through the SAD tanks, the facility, mountains around it AND the entire island in half as well with a single slice.

D. the fact that it was able to ignore a haki master, someone who was literally able to coat his entire body in haki.



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