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06-07-2010 07:38 AM
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First off I’d like to say that I want all hate and wank to stay outside of this thread.

I’d also prefere if haters like Shoddragon who don’t read the manga and think that Captain America could solo the entire Naruto universe by himself would stay out of the thread.

All highlights must be based of either the original manga, or the authors direct words (interviews, databook, etc.) so I don’t want to hear any of the “I don’t like it so it’s hyperbole” bullshit.

The manga = The author >>>>>>>>>>> You

Got it? - Good.

Any scans, references and sources wil be provided on request.

The scans are unaltered save for the fact that there might be commets in transparant-red.

Enjoy!

Edited 06-07-2010 07:43 AM by Genius.
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Speed

A common misconception is that Haku is able to travel at lightspeed, this is false. However, with his Kekkei Genkai (bloodline limit) ability Makyou Hyoushou (Demonic Mirroring Ice Crystals) Haku is moving at the speed of light.

First mentioned in the first databook.

For Haku, it’s possible to move between the mirrors at the speed of light. It’s impossible to see attacks send out from this literal light speed movement

This is really enough as it’s direct exposition from the writer. But I will mix in some proof from the manga as well (you know, dealing with haters).

We can see that the body of water remains seemingly stationary as Haku blitzes Naruto.





Haku flat out says that it’s impossible to follow his movement with your eyes (like in the databook).



For now I’ve only been teasing the haters, here’s the real deal the last nail in the coffin of hate.



And if you want to comment on stupid shit like “durr me dunt tink reflactions ar cuzed bai lait” don’t bother.

But lets examine the speed of regular Genin.

Naruo implying that he moves at mach 5.



Cursed Seal I Sasuke effortlessly dodges a sonic boom (faster than sound).





While carying Naruto and Sakura (who’re past out and worn out).



Now there are faster Genin, one of them is Rock Lee. Whom, after releasing the 4th gate, destroys the entire arena with one step.





Followed by some hardcore blitzing.



As impressive as Genin speed is, it’s as nothing compared to Jonin speed.

Kakashi cut a bolt of lightning (that’s right, he reacted to lightning).



Further confirmed in the databook as absolute fact.



Kakashi performs this fantastic feat once again for everyone to see.





Then there are haters who, for no logical reason, pretends as if chakra induced electricity is different from natural electricity.

This is of course easily refuted.

Zetsu confirms that the only difference between human produced lightning (chakra) and natural lightning is the scale.



Kakashi refers to the use of jutsu as nature manipulation.



We can also see that Itachi reacted to lightnig, as his right eye is closed before the bolt struck him (both eyes must be open to summon Susano-O).



You might as yourselves why Itachi didn’t move out of the way instead. The answer to that is that the jutsu (Kirin) destroyed the entire mountain they were fighting on (and that’s when countered by Susano-O) and Itachi was severely worn out.

To add on Kakashi’s feat. Here he evades a jutsu called Water Fang Bullet.

Quoting the 2nd Databook.

“From the water, bullets at the speed of light--- Coming from a blind spot to bore into the enemy!!"



That should do justice for the speed of Shinobi (ninja).

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06-07-2010 07:39 AM
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Strength and overall physical skills.

A lot of haters considers that when Tsunande swings around Gamabuta’s 100 metric ton katana like a stick to be a high-end feat. Because it puts her in the league of the strongest Marvel and DC characters (100 ton class)





I would however consider it a low-end feat. Because...

Tsuande ripps the ground apart like nothing.



Orochimaru then tells Kabuto (high-jonin) that if Tsunande (low-kage) hit him once, it could kill him.



Later in that battle Tsunande proves her martial art prowess by in one hit completely rearranging Kabuto’s nerve system.





Other impressive strike feats.

Naruto messes up Manda, the god of snakes, at the Chuunin exams.



Sasuke one-shots an over-sized bear, at the Chuunin exams.



But back to actual feats of strength (bench pressing). Now the reason why I don’t consider the fact that Tsunande can swing an oversized sword as if it’s nothing is because. Even Jonin can lift more.





And that was before he recieved a major asswhopping from Chouji on pills too.

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Genjutsu

Basic Genjutsu can easily take complete control over regular humans, also known as Genjutsu binding.



A similar jutsu was placed by Orochimaru (when he was in the Akatsuki) on a high-jonin, and was later used to infiltrate the sands... yes, they can be that powerful.





A higher level of Genjutsu can partially manipulate the victim without him ever noticing it.



There are even more powerful Genjutsu such as Tsukuyomi and Izanagi.

Tsukuyomi, makes the user efficiently omnipotent in the realm of the Genjutsu.



Kakashi even asked himself why Itachi spared him (hinting that he’s a good guy).



Izanagi merges illusion with reality (imagine how powerful it would be combined with Tsukuyomi).

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Ninjutsu

We’re going to stard off with Amaterasu, which according to the Databook is as hot as the sun.



Once again, this should be enough. But to avoid unnecessary conflict with haters, it’s also confirmed in the manga.

Amaterasu instantly vaporizes fire-breathing toad flesh and concrete (vaporizes at 10,000 Kelvin).





And yes, we know for a fact that it’s concrete because when Sausuke effortlessly tore through a number of layers of it we could see the steel wires.



As for transformation jutsu, even Chuunin can transform to virually everything for camoflage. Even a small puddle of water.



And yes, we know for a fact that they are Chuunin-level.



Then we have the pride and joy of Naruto, Susano-O.

Which makes the user completely invincible.



The 3rd Databook conrirms that it’s invincible

“Substantial or spiritual, and then ninjutsu or physical attacks lose all kinds of significance before the god’s efficacy."

It also explains that the Mirror of Yata (shield) reflects any assult and that the Sword of Totsuka (sword) shatters the mind of the victim and seals the body in another space.

Sasuke recently achived the completely invincible version of Susano-O.



But even the basic version of Susano-O was so powerful that it trumphed Gaara’s perfect defense.



Even though Gaara was able to protect an entire city from a nuke-level assult.



Then there are less impressive jutsu like Chibaku Tensei, which still tears up a city level area.



Also keep in mind that Nagato was worn out and weaken and even said that he could make a larger sphere if necessary.

So why is it less impressive? Well Kisame can create water, and well...



Still not impressive enough, since. Orochimaru can create his own space (universe, dimension, whatever you want to call it).



And Sasuke still torn that down at whim (dimension buster).



Haters also like to tell me that it’s not actual space. Bull-fucking-shit, if it wasn’t space then why is madara transporting himself (and other things) to the same kind of space. Owned!

[Reply] #6
06-07-2010 07:49 AM
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what of
orochimaru creating his own 'space'?

just for the note i agree with what you are saying here

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06-07-2010 08:07 AM
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You’re off with your calculation.

Assuming the diamter of the sphere is 1 kilometer.

4*Pi*500^3 / 3 = 523’598’775,6 m^3

1 m^3 water weighs 1’000 kg

So the sphere weighs 523’598’775’600.00 kg

E = mc^2 = 523’598’775’600.00 * (3*10^8)^2 = 47,1 * 10^27 Joules

Which is even more impressive wink

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06-07-2010 08:59 AM
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Naruto is a shitty, inconsistent manga, and you’re hilariously stupid for trying to find some sort of consistency in the feats using real-world physics.

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06-07-2010 09:11 AM
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Also, since when the fuck was Manda in the Chuunin exam? It was a normal snake.
Show the scan where it says the bomb dropped on Suna is equal to a nuke.
Naruto running at mach 5 is complete bullshit and you know it. A retard shouting “mach 5!" as he runs does in no way prove that he can run in mach 5, especially since this is never verified or confirmed later in the manga, the opposite is confirmed however.

Also, get it through you’r thick skull that EMS doesn’t translate to eternal chakra reserves. Since the chakra can run out, Susanoo is not invincible nor perfect, it has limits.

If you’re going to make a respect thread, at least try to get the God damn facts straight, but expecting something as simple as that from the biggest narutard wanker on the planet is a little bit too much to ask it seems...

Edited 06-07-2010 09:12 AM by AfterGlow.
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A lot of haters considers that when Tsunande swings around Gamabuta’s 100 metric ton katana like a stick to be a high-end feat. Because it puts her in the league of the strongest Marvel and DC characters (100 ton class)






nice job Harlequin but Tsunande being in 100 ton class would mean she can hit people like the hulk and send him miles and miles away with a punch i put her in 20 to 25 ton range maybe even a little bit higher.

oh that wasn’t Manda that naruto beat up it was just one of orochimaru’s summon snakes. if the data book says Haku is light speed cuz of the mirror


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06-07-2010 09:30 AM
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Nice work Harle.

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06-07-2010 09:37 AM
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Also, what the hell is the “width” “breadth” on gamabunta’s dagger supposed to mean? That it’s circular?

Because it’s fucking not, and you can clearly see that it’s not circular on the same scan when the knife is seen from the side, it has the same shape as any Japanese sword.

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06-07-2010 09:51 AM
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heavenly king wrote: nice job Harlequin but Tsunande being in 100 ton class would mean she can hit people like the hulk and send him miles and miles away with a punch i put her in 20 to 25 ton range maybe even a little bit higher.

oh that wasn’t Manda that naruto beat up it was just one of orochimaru’s summon snakes. if the data book says Haku is light speed cuz of the mirror


Actually I looked it up.

Strength: Ability to lift weight above one’s head with arms fully extended
1 - Below Normal: cannot lift one’s own body weight
2 - Normal: able to lift one’s own body weight
3 - Athlete: able to lift from one’s own body weight up to double one’s own body weight
4 - Peak Human: able to lift double one’s own body weight to 800 pound range
5 - Enhanced Human: able to lift in the 800 pound to 2 ton range
6 - Superhuman Class 10: able to lift in the 2 to 10 ton range
7 - Superhuman Class 25: able to lift in the 10 to 25 ton range
8 - Superhuman Class 50: able to lift in the 25 to 50 ton range
9 - Superhuman Class 75: able to lift in the 50 to 75 ton range
10 - Superhuman Class 90: able to lift in the 75 to 90 ton range
11 - Superhuman Class 100: able to lift in the 90 to 100 ton range
12 - Incalculable: able to lift in excess of 100 tons

http://marvel.wikia.com/Category:Strength_Class

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The Susanno Completely Invincible statement was a figure of speech. used by many characters when they find no possible way of defeating an enemy. This statement is usually proven false later in the manga/comic when a character succeeds in breaking this defense/shield/attack ex. Gaaras Armor


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06-07-2010 10:24 AM
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UM your supposed to make a respect for each character alone, So like this topic “Naruto Respect Thread” should be made of impressive feats for Naruto Uzamaki. Then one of example Orochimaru would be in your “Orochimaru Respect thread”.

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Oh and your forgetting alot of Genjutsu feats from characters.

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haku is not lightspeed...


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06-07-2010 10:36 AM
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Sasuke has an attack that attacks faster than hyperspeed. And I know it sounds like Im wanking but he really does.

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06-07-2010 10:45 AM
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Harlequin wrote: First off I’d like to say that I want all hate and wank to stay outside of this thread.

I’d also prefere if haters like Shoddragon who don’t read the manga and think that Captain America could solo the entire Naruto universe by himself would stay out of the thread.

All highlights must be based of either the original manga, or the authors direct words (interviews, databook, etc.) so I don’t want to hear any of the “I don’t like it so it’s hyperbole” bullshit.O.K.

The manga = The author >>>>>>>>>>> You

Got it? - Good.

Any scans, references and sources wil be provided on request.

The scans are unaltered save for the fact that there might be commets in transparant-red.

Enjoy!

O.K.

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06-07-2010 10:54 AM
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AfterGlow wrote: Naruto is a shitty, inconsistent manga, and you’re hilariously stupid for trying to find some sort of consistency in the feats using real-world physics.

/thread

shut the fuck up you bitch and go hate some where else naruto the best and your shit G-T-F-O

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