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The Force Vs Ki (DBZ) Vs Chakra (Naruto)

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Raniero wrote: - Destructive Force
- Energy shape and control manipulation
- Dimension fuckery
- Teleportation
- Physical stat amping
- Flight
- Nature manipulation (as shown by Roshi)
- Magic (Ki and magic in DBZ are interconnected)
- Psychic powers
- Healing

And much more. Ki is incredibly versatile.



Chakra still has a bigger variety of things you could do with it.


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Jin-Kun wrote:

curstdragon wrote:

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Stark Industries wrote: So are people actually saying someone with chakra can beat someone with ki?
I thought nappa can destroy naruto universe.



Nappa with chakra can destroy Nappa with ki.

This thread isnt about DBZ vs Naruto...u idiot.
Dbz destroys naruto because they are more destructive and more faster, etc.

However give naruto characters the same amount of speed, strength, stats, etc.
Theyll absolutely destroy the dbz cast.


Not necessarily, Napa with ki has all of his stats amped automatically. Napa with chakra would have to specialize in a specific stat to keep up with Napa but he would be significantly more versatile.



I thought u can make urself stronger with chakra and also transform.


You can but you have to specialise. Orochimaru and Jaria have just as much chakra as Tsunade but don’t have anywhere close to the strength.


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Raniero wrote: No, I’m pretty sure ki and magic are interconnected.

Kinda why guys with larger powers can overpower the dragons.

They’re likely race dependent.


Babidi, one of DBZs most powerful magic users has nothing in common with anybody else who uses Ki.

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Sure, chakra has more “variety”, but people seem to forget that most of it is dependent on personal nature affinity and bloodline.

Most characters can’t fire large blasts of energy projection. That’s purely a bijuu ability.

Same with the abilities of the Sharingan.

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Raniero wrote: - Destructive Force
- Energy shape and control manipulation
- Teleportation
- Physical stat amping
- Flight
- Magic (Ki and magic in DBZ are interconnected)
- Psychic powers
- Healing

And much more. Ki is incredibly versatile.



Fixed. And im not too sure about the bolded part neither.

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Demiurge wrote: Babidi, one of DBZs most powerful magic users has nothing in common with anybody else who uses Ki.


Uh, what?

He exploded a man’s head with thought, just like Freeza can. He created a shield, just like Cell. He can communicated telepathically, just like Goku.

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Raniero wrote: No, I’m pretty sure ki and magic are interconnected.

Kinda why guys with larger powers can overpower the dragons.

They’re likely race dependent.


Immunity to Hax could be a trait of Ki but magic was given a separate and distinct system.


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RamenJunky wrote: Fixed. And im not too sure about the bolded part neither.


Don’t fix my shit.

Al of it is correct.

And I’d like you guys to actually prove magic isn’t related to ki.

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Jin-Kun wrote: Same with ki.


No. Like I said, everything is dependent based on bloodline and affinity.

Chakra can do that shit too if im not mistaken.
Like the sharingan for example. They can copy jutsus and moves just by looking.


Goku isn’t an Uchiha. So he wouldn’t have that if he had chakra one day.

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@Ran
Personal nature affinity just makes a certain element easier to learn. Jonin can use at least 2 elements. Kakashi can use all 5.
Doujutsu/bloodline techniques can be implanted.
Anyone can learn energy projection in Naruto (Rasengan).


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gothic lolita member wrote: Personal nature affinity just makes a certain element easier to learn. Jonin can use at least 2 elements. Kakashi can use all 5.


Not only that, but it also makes it possible to use certain techniques.

Like combining two natures into one, which is a bloodline.

Doujutsu/bloodline techniques can be implanted.


Oh, no, only Doujutsu, and it will significantly drain the user whenever he opens his eyes (assuming he has both implanted and he went even be able to deactivate them.

Anyone can learn energy projection in Naruto (Rasengan).


lolRasengan.

Let’s see chakra being capable of destroying planets.

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Jin-Kun wrote:

Raniero wrote:

Demiurge wrote: Babidi, one of DBZs most powerful magic users has nothing in common with anybody else who uses Ki.


Uh, what?

He exploded a man’s head with thought, just like Freeza can. He created a shield, just like Cell. He can communicated telepathically, just like Goku.



Frieza cant explode someone with a thought and frieza has to be near krillin.

Going to need evidence on the bolded.


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I m fucking disgusted by the lack of knowladge about da force in dis thread .


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Whopper With Cheese wrote: I m fucking disgusted by the lack of knowladge about da force in dis thread .


Ikr?

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Jin-Kun wrote: Frieza cant explode someone with a thought and frieza has to be near krillin. Frieza did something with his hands (like the force).


Goku just looked at the ground and it exploded. lol

Babidi on the other hand literally exploded someones brain from across the entire planet.


Which only attributes to incredibly powerful telekinesis, not magic.

Cell created a shield? Okay and? Babidi created that shit to except its much better that it could protect his ass from someone like majin vegeta.


Which, again, points towards very powerful energy manipulation that might be attributed to magic. iirc, that shield was weak against direct physical attacks.

Yes babidi can telepathically communicate as well. what about it?


So can Goku...

Goku cant do alot of shit babidi or even buu could do except basic shit such as flight or energy blast or teleport and shit .


Alright?

Chakra users can do all of this shit and much more.


>Missing the point.

How many times do I have to tell you that much of it is based on bloodline and affinity?

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Demiurge wrote:

Whopper With Cheese wrote: I m fucking disgusted by the lack of knowladge about da force in dis thread .


Ikr?

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Raniero wrote:

Jin-Kun wrote: Frieza cant explode someone with a thought and frieza has to be near krillin. Frieza did something with his hands (like the force).


Goku just looked at the ground and it exploded. lol



He was using Kiai.

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Whopper With Cheese wrote: I m fucking disgusted by the lack of knowladge about da force in dis thread .



You’re absolutely right.



Don’t fuck with the Force.


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Jin-Kun wrote: We’re talking about chakras in general.
Chakras IN GENERAL can do all of this shit.


Except some of the shit you’re naming isn’t even remotely general to chakra users.

Why the fuck do you think most ninja are weak shit?

Sasuke still uses chakra.


Sasuke is only as powerful as he is because he has SHARINGAN, which your typical mook won’t have.

Besides why are we talking about naruto to determine if chakra is more better?
Chakra IN GENERAL are more better than ki


Not to me. Ki is much better, especially since it can disgustingly enhance all physical stats hilariously beyond normal limits. That alone is a massive advantage.

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Raniero wrote:

RamenJunky wrote: Fixed. And im not too sure about the bolded part neither.


Don’t fix my shit.

Al of it is correct.

And I’d like you guys to actually prove magic isn’t related to ki.



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