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The Force Vs Ki (DBZ) Vs Chakra (Naruto)

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The Vongolian King wrote: IDK about force so i’ll just stick to Ki and Chakra. Ki is for powerhouse and stuff. But, with chakra, you’re giving a huge variety of different jutsus that are really helpful in different situations.


This guy gets it.


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The Force comes first with Chakra second and Ki as third.

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curstdragon wrote:

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Stark Industries wrote: So are people actually saying someone with chakra can beat someone with ki?
I thought nappa can destroy naruto universe.



Nappa with chakra can destroy Nappa with ki.

This thread isnt about DBZ vs Naruto...u idiot.
Dbz destroys naruto because they are more destructive and more faster, etc.

However give naruto characters the same amount of speed, strength, stats, etc.
Theyll absolutely destroy the dbz cast.


Not necessarily, Napa with ki has all of his stats amped automatically. Napa with chakra would have to specialize in a specific stat to keep up with Napa but he would be significantly more versatile.



I thought u can make urself stronger with chakra and also transform.


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Raniero wrote: - Destructive Force
- Energy shape and control manipulation
- Dimension fuckery
- Teleportation
- Physical stat amping
- Flight
- Nature manipulation (as shown by Roshi)
- Magic (Ki and magic in DBZ are interconnected)
- Psychic powers
- Healing

And much more. Ki is incredibly versatile.


Im pretty sure magic and ki are two different things that work in two distinct ways in dbz.


I could be wrong, though.


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Jin-Kun wrote: Goku with chakra can do all of that and more. He’ll do all sorts of illusions and mindfuckery and reality shit and control over elements.


He’d actually have to LEARN to do that and like I said, a lot of techniques and abilities are user dependent in Nardo.

You cant do that with ki.


...Yes you can...


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Raniero wrote: - Destructive Force
- Energy shape and control manipulation
- Dimension fuckery
- Teleportation
- Physical stat amping
- Flight
- Nature manipulation (as shown by Roshi)
- Magic (Ki and magic in DBZ are interconnected)
- Psychic powers
- Healing

And much more. Ki is incredibly versatile.


I don’t believe that this is correct.


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Raniero wrote: - Destructive Force
- Energy shape and control manipulation
- Dimension fuckery
- Teleportation
- Physical stat amping
- Flight
- Nature manipulation (as shown by Roshi)
- Magic (Ki and magic in DBZ are interconnected)
- Psychic powers
- Healing

And much more. Ki is incredibly versatile.



Chakra users can do all of that already.


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No, I’m pretty sure ki and magic are interconnected.

Kinda why guys with larger powers can overpower the dragons.

They’re likely race dependent.


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Raniero wrote: - Destructive Force
- Energy shape and control manipulation
- Dimension fuckery
- Teleportation
- Physical stat amping
- Flight
- Nature manipulation (as shown by Roshi)
- Magic (Ki and magic in DBZ are interconnected)
- Psychic powers
- Healing

And much more. Ki is incredibly versatile.



Chakra still has a bigger variety of things you could do with it.


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Jin-Kun wrote:

curstdragon wrote:

Jin-Kun wrote:

Stark Industries wrote: So are people actually saying someone with chakra can beat someone with ki?
I thought nappa can destroy naruto universe.



Nappa with chakra can destroy Nappa with ki.

This thread isnt about DBZ vs Naruto...u idiot.
Dbz destroys naruto because they are more destructive and more faster, etc.

However give naruto characters the same amount of speed, strength, stats, etc.
Theyll absolutely destroy the dbz cast.


Not necessarily, Napa with ki has all of his stats amped automatically. Napa with chakra would have to specialize in a specific stat to keep up with Napa but he would be significantly more versatile.



I thought u can make urself stronger with chakra and also transform.


You can but you have to specialise. Orochimaru and Jaria have just as much chakra as Tsunade but don’t have anywhere close to the strength.


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Raniero wrote:

Jin-Kun wrote: Goku with chakra can do all of that and more. He’ll do all sorts of illusions and mindfuckery and reality shit and control over elements.


He’d actually have to LEARN to do that and like I said, a lot of techniques and abilities are user dependent in Nardo.

You cant do that with ki.


...Yes you can...



Same with ki.
Goku has to LEARN how to do all of that shit such as teleportation.
The only thing he was able to do “right off the bat” was kamehameha after looking at it once but thats becuz kid goku had ki within him already.

Chakra can do that shit too if im not mistaken.
Like the sharingan for example. They can copy jutsus and moves just by looking.


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Raniero wrote: No, I’m pretty sure ki and magic are interconnected.

Kinda why guys with larger powers can overpower the dragons.

They’re likely race dependent.


Babidi, one of DBZs most powerful magic users has nothing in common with anybody else who uses Ki.


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Sure, chakra has more “variety”, but people seem to forget that most of it is dependent on personal nature affinity and bloodline.

Most characters can’t fire large blasts of energy projection. That’s purely a bijuu ability.

Same with the abilities of the Sharingan.


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Raniero wrote: - Destructive Force
- Energy shape and control manipulation
- Teleportation
- Physical stat amping
- Flight
- Magic (Ki and magic in DBZ are interconnected)
- Psychic powers
- Healing

And much more. Ki is incredibly versatile.



Fixed. And im not too sure about the bolded part neither.

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Demiurge wrote:

Raniero wrote: - Destructive Force
- Energy shape and control manipulation
- Dimension fuckery
- Teleportation
- Physical stat amping
- Flight
- Nature manipulation (as shown by Roshi)
- Magic (Ki and magic in DBZ are interconnected)
- Psychic powers
- Healing

And much more. Ki is incredibly versatile.


Im pretty sure magic and ki are two different things that work in two distinct ways in dbz.


I could be wrong, though.



Your right actually. Ki amd magic are two totally different things.

Babidi is a magic user.


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Demiurge wrote: Babidi, one of DBZs most powerful magic users has nothing in common with anybody else who uses Ki.


Uh, what?

He exploded a man’s head with thought, just like Freeza can. He created a shield, just like Cell. He can communicated telepathically, just like Goku.


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Raniero wrote: No, I’m pretty sure ki and magic are interconnected.

Kinda why guys with larger powers can overpower the dragons.

They’re likely race dependent.


Immunity to Hax could be a trait of Ki but magic was given a separate and distinct system.


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RamenJunky wrote: Fixed. And im not too sure about the bolded part neither.


Don’t fix my shit.

Al of it is correct.

And I’d like you guys to actually prove magic isn’t related to ki.


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Jin-Kun wrote: Same with ki.


No. Like I said, everything is dependent based on bloodline and affinity.

Chakra can do that shit too if im not mistaken.
Like the sharingan for example. They can copy jutsus and moves just by looking.


Goku isn’t an Uchiha. So he wouldn’t have that if he had chakra one day.


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Personal nature affinity just makes a certain element easier to learn. Jonin can use at least 2 elements. Kakashi can use all 5.
Doujutsu/bloodline techniques can be implanted.
Anyone can learn energy projection in Naruto (Rasengan).


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