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Things that can kill a Leviathan(Supernatural)?

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Lately we’ve seen that these buggers are hard on the drop. What’s some of the character’s or things in fiction that you think can bring them down?

I’ll start with the obvious: The Colt.


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Anything in Supernatural can die, IIRC that was pretty much proven when Death said that he would reap God.


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Yes, the title is mis-leading, sorry. Read the OP for the full scope.


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At lest people with decent reality warping.


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We don’t know if the Colt can kill the Leviathans. Lucifer said there are 5 things in CREATION it can’t kill. Archangels are one of those things. We have no idea what the other 4 things are.

@Omni: Define decent. Angels are all reality warpers. Hell even, tricksters are reality warpers.


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Issue #1 with killing a Leviathan: They are immune to soul-ripping, as they predate the creation of the soul Itself.

Also, might be just me, but I can’t see reality-warping bagging them up, much. I mean, what exactly Is It going to do? Unless you mean complete denial of existance, that I can dig.


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King Dhaos wrote: We don’t know if the Colt can kill the Leviathans. Lucifer said there are 5 things in CREATION it can’t kill. Archangels are one of those things. We have no idea what the other 4 things are.

@Omni: Define decent. Angels are all reality warpers. Hell even, tricksters are reality warpers.



off the top of my head, all I can guess is:

God (well no shit)
Archangels ( as proven with lucy)
Death ( only being so far on par with god)
Being X
Being Y


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King Dhaos wrote: We don’t know if the Colt can kill the Leviathans. Lucifer said there are 5 things in CREATION it can’t kill. Archangels are one of those things. We have no idea what the other 4 things are.

@Omni: Define decent. Angels are all reality warpers. Hell even, tricksters are reality warpers.



Are you absolutely sure, Chibi? I always took that to mean the 4 Archangels and God as the beings in creation that can’t be killed.

Then again, that dosen’t make much sense now.

But If the Leviathans ARE immune to the Colt, oh boy, their reality-warping resistances are through the roof.

Issue #2 with killing a Leviathan: Physical damage can’t kill them, the black-liquid will live on and re-attach the host or find something else.


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The Doctor wrote:

King Dhaos wrote: We don’t know if the Colt can kill the Leviathans. Lucifer said there are 5 things in CREATION it can’t kill. Archangels are one of those things. We have no idea what the other 4 things are.

@Omni: Define decent. Angels are all reality warpers. Hell even, tricksters are reality warpers.



off the top of my head, all I can guess is:

God (well no shit)
Archangels ( as proven with lucy)
Death ( only being so far on par with god)
Being X
Being Y


God and Death are not part of creation. Lucifer specifically said “in all of Creation” implying things created by God. Death may even be older than God.

@Wolf: the thing is “things” can mean a group. Such as one thing is archangels. A species can be a thing. But we don’t know for sure.


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I don’t know shit about what you’re saying, so this is a shot in the dark, but if it’s supernatural...Touma should be able to kill it easy.


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King Dhaos wrote:

The Doctor wrote:

King Dhaos wrote: We don’t know if the Colt can kill the Leviathans. Lucifer said there are 5 things in CREATION it can’t kill. Archangels are one of those things. We have no idea what the other 4 things are.

@Omni: Define decent. Angels are all reality warpers. Hell even, tricksters are reality warpers.



off the top of my head, all I can guess is:

God (well no shit)
Archangels ( as proven with lucy)
Death ( only being so far on par with god)
Being X
Being Y


God and Death are not part of creation. Lucifer specifically said “in all of Creation” implying things created by God. Death may even be older than God.

@Wolf: the thing is “things” can mean a group. Such as one thing is archangels. A species can be a thing. But we don’t know for sure.



really? I took all of creation as meaning just everything in existence ( because in doctor who, “all of creation” just means the entire multiverse and everything in it”.


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I guess you’re right, Chibi, there’s no way to differentiate with 'things'.


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The reason I don’t think that is because it is pretty biblical heavy. In a religious sense, creation would have been what God made.

I guess it depends on how you take it. It was pretty vague to where it can stretch to a couple different things. That’s why I say we don’t know for sure if the colt can kill them or not.But see another thing is, the demons have the pieces of the colt and well we know Ruby can make Colts. In theory, they could mass produce colts(demons could) but yet Crowley is like “Yeah no. Not getting involved” I figure if Ruby knows how to make the colt, a lot of hell does. I figure there is enough demons who could kill a lot of them if colt could kill them.


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I’m not sure what you’re trying to get at with the 'pieces of the Colt + mass producing the weapon' thing...


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King Dhaos wrote: The reason I don’t think that is because it is pretty biblical heavy. In a religious sense, creation would have been what God made.

I guess it depends on how you take it. It was pretty vague to where it can stretch to a couple different things. That’s why I say we don’t know for sure if the colt can kill them or not.But see another thing is, the demons have the pieces of the colt and well we know Ruby can make Colts. In theory, they could mass produce colts(demons could) but yet Crowley is like “Yeah no. Not getting involved” I figure if Ruby knows how to make the colt, a lot of hell does. I figure there is enough demons who could kill a lot of them if colt could kill them.



1. “your bible gets more wrong than it does right”-Castiel. throwing that out there.

2. Ruby seemed pretty special considering she had the only demon killing knife shown thus far. also I agree completely that lucifer’s statement can be taken a number of ways.


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@Wolf:

I’m saying they got the Colt. They can figure out how it works. Once they do they can mass produce it. If Ruby could figure it out...I’m sure Crowley can.

@Doc:

Yeah I know. But I’m sure God created the universe in SPN. Which is what I was getting at. I’d have to dig but Sera Gamble mentions that God actually made the Big Bang when talking about “The Man who Would Be King” when Cas tells his story in an interview.

The thing that confuses me is, since she is obviously a Lucifer loyalist, why not take the colt from Bobby when she was there. I’m sure she could have found some mook to break the Devil’s gate.

Regardless, We simply don’t know yet what can kill them. You’d think it would be worth a shot. But I certainly wouldn’t be going after Dick Roman with it. If it fails, you’re in deep shit. I’d reckon if Dean and Sam were never the vessels, Luci would have just snapped his fingers and been done with them.


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Makes me wonder why they don’t...though, I’m sure the issue of Colt vs a Leviathan will come up in the series soon enough.


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The Doctor wrote:

King Dhaos wrote: We don’t know if the Colt can kill the Leviathans. Lucifer said there are 5 things in CREATION it can’t kill. Archangels are one of those things. We have no idea what the other 4 things are.

@Omni: Define decent. Angels are all reality warpers. Hell even, tricksters are reality warpers.



off the top of my head, all I can guess is:

God (well no shit)
Archangels ( as proven with lucy)
Death ( only being so far on par with god)
Being X
Being Y



You all seem to forget that the Colt can’t kill the Devil. Lucifer needs to be added to that list as well.

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Kuja creates something that has threatened them before via the memories of the survivors.

Fucking liar

Bitch.


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Random Supernatural Geek wrote:

The Doctor wrote:

King Dhaos wrote: We don’t know if the Colt can kill the Leviathans. Lucifer said there are 5 things in CREATION it can’t kill. Archangels are one of those things. We have no idea what the other 4 things are.

@Omni: Define decent. Angels are all reality warpers. Hell even, tricksters are reality warpers.



off the top of my head, all I can guess is:

God (well no shit)
Archangels ( as proven with lucy)
Death ( only being so far on par with god)
Being X
Being Y



You all seem to forget that the Colt can’t kill the Devil. Lucifer needs to be added to that list as well.


“Lucy” is referring to Lucifer (the Devil), the [fallen] Archangel.
Anyways, “Being X” could be Dick Roman and “Being Y” could be Eve.

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